Why are the corrupt in DC never held accountable?

The Barbarian said:

Nope. Those are from OMB.



As I pointed out, the huge increase in debt the first year of his administration was Bush's budget. And I showed the deficit, not the debt. The deficit shows how much debt each president is actually responsible for. Hence, after the first year, Obama was able to reduce the deficit.

Here's how Trump is doing:

The hatched bar shows the transition year, when the new president is under the budget of the old president. Notice Obama cut the deficit almost every year, and Trump has increased it back almost to the Bush level.

“Federal deficits have widened immensely under Trump’s leadership. This is striking not only because he promised fiscal responsibility – at one time even pledging to eliminate the national debt within eight years – but also because it’s a historical anomaly…. Trump’s own policies are to blame for this aberration.”
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The White House and congressional Republicans swore up and down in late 2017 that they could slash taxes for the wealthy and big corporations without increasing the deficit because, as they repeatedly insisted, “tax cuts pay for themselves.” We didn’t need additional evidence that their ridiculous belief was, and is, wrong, but we have the evidence anyway.
Despite his promises, Trump pushes deficit past $1 trillion mark

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More Liberal statistics? Rachael Maddow. Rolls Eyes. Of course they're tainted statistics. lol!!!!

I think that you're forgetting about all of the millions of dollars of welfare and foods stamps that Obama, and thee Democrat Politicians had Americans on? lol. And how the economy is doing better with jobs, and so many Americans not on Food stamps and welfare and relying on the government like the Democrat Socialist Politicians want people to have to????????

Charlie24 said:

That's the generous way to look at it. Here's another way.

When Obama went in office Jan. 2009 the national debt was 10.626 trillion.

When he left office Jan, 2017 the national debt was 19.947 trillion.

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Well, not sure where you got your numbers but the National debt rose 8.5 trillion under Obama who had to battle the Republican recession and Republican wars while Trump's debt has been increasing at a slightly less pace but he has been the beneficiary of a strong economy handed to him by Obama.

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charity1 said:

As per usual, your stats contradict others. I don't recall Obama cutting taxes EVER. And i h ave been following (real) news for a long time now.

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Look up the the tax laws passed during Obama's administration. Not sure what news you follow but you probably slept through those years.

Yarddog said:

Well, not sure where you got your numbers but the National debt rose 8.5 trillion under Obama who had to battle the Republican recession and Republican wars while Trump's debt has been increasing at a slightly less pace but he has been the beneficiary of a strong economy handed to him by Obama.

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I thought that in my life I had heard it all, but you have proved me wrong. LOL

Charlie24 said:

I thought that in my life I had heard it all, but you have proved me wrong. LOL

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I guess Democrat voters think that Millions of Americans being on Food Stamps and Welfare is a good thing?

How can one try and have a rational and logical discussion with a Socialist living in a Capitalist Nation?

Sometimes, I just have to stop talking to people. Because, in reality, you could talk until you're blue in the face and be thee most logical, rational, moral, and completely prove Democrat theories wrong with evidence, and at thee end of thee day, they would still blindly believe what they do.

More and more moderates, Conservatives, and Republicans tend to be more Objective because we have to be. Thee only thing is, thee Democrats project so many things upon us, because of their ignorance, they say we're.
When in reality, of course, they're. lol.

Simon/Rock said:

I guess Democrat voters think that Millions of Americans being on Food Stamps and Welfare is a good thing?

How can one try and have a rational and logical discussion with a Socialist living in a Capitalist Nation?

Sometimes, I just have to stop talking to people. Because, in reality, you could talk until you're blue in the face and be thee most logical, rational, moral, and completely prove Democrat theories wrong with evidence, and at thee end of thee day, they would still blindly believe what they do.

More and more moderates, Conservatives, and Republicans tend to be more Objective because we have to be. Thee only thing is, thee Democrats project so many things upon us, because of their ignorance, they say we're.
When in reality, of course, they're. lol.

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I understand your frustrations brother!

charity1 said:

SEE ya... I am outa here

I can't help it.. do not believe those numbers/figures

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Trump's own OMB prepared those numbers. They aren't controversial.

Simon/Rock said:

I guess Democrat voters think that Millions of Americans being on Food Stamps and Welfare is a good thing.

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If they do, they should love republican presidents...



The Bush recession caused a huge increase, but under Obama's budgets,that declined by about 7 million people. Notice the even larger decline on Clinton's watch, down from the previous record under the elder Bush.

Simon/Rock said:

More Liberal statistics?

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It's from Trump's own OMB.

Of course they're tainted statistics. lol!!!!

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Although Trump is a habitual liar, you can't just assume that everyone working for him is. The numbers are not controversial.

I think that you're forgetting about all of the millions of dollars of welfare and foods stamps that Obama, and thee Democrat Politicians had Americans on?

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See the graph just above this post. Surprise.

lol.

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Indeed. Always check data before you believe stuff like that. Especially, if it's stuff you really want to be true. That's when it's easiest to fool you.

Simon/Rock said:

I guess Democrat voters think that Millions of Americans being on Food Stamps and Welfare is a good thing?

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I know of no Democrat that thinks that being food stamps and welfare is a good thing. That's a right wing myth.

How can one try and have a rational and logical discussion with a Socialist living in a Capitalist Nation?

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Most Republicans don't know that they have just as many Socialist programs as Democrats. They just don't have the logic to rationalize it.

Sometimes, I just have to stop talking to people.

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That would be a good thing.

More and more moderates, Conservatives, and Republicans tend to be more Objective because we have to be. Thee only thing is, thee Democrats project so many things upon us, because of their ignorance, they say we're.
When in reality, of course, they're. lol.

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Glad I'm a moderate. Lol

Charlie24 said:

I thought that in my life I had heard it all, but you have proved me wrong. LOL

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I guess you haven't studied the facts. Typical right winger.

charity1 said:

your stats contradict others. I have heard numerous times that Pres O increased the Debt more than all presidetns b4 him combined..

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Link? You made the claim, you should provide the proof for it.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)

The Barbarian said:

If they do, they should love republican presidents...

The Bush recession caused a huge increase, but under Obama's budgets,that declined by about 7 million people. Notice the even larger decline on Clinton's watch, down from the previous record under the elder Bush.

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I wonder if Democrat voters actually take the time to really read their links, and statistics before they post them?

Your statistics say: Percentage of population receiving Food Stamps.
Under President Barrack Insane Obama(Democrat), it spiked all the way to 15percent of the population, and from that chart that is the highest it has ever been. Seven out of thee Eight years that Barrack Obama was President, were the worst years that America has given out Food Stamps.

Since 2017, Under Trump(Republican) anyone can see that the people that are collecting Food stamps from the government have declined.

Bush Jr. did a bad job, but nowhere even close as Burrack did. The worse Bush Jr. did was around 9 Percent or less, and Obama was between 14-15 percent for 4 years. Soooooooooo yeah, I'd the Democrat Politicians are a lot worse.

4 out of the 8 years bill Clinton was in office your statistics were on the rise.
I do believe you need to learn the true facts, because you're not being objective, and are blindly following your Liberal Politicians, and Liberal Media. I'm far from perfect. Conservatives are far from Perfect. The Conservative Media, Republicans Politicians, and Conservatives Politicians are far from perfect, Trump isn't perfect. I don't blindly follow anyone. I listen and make my own assessments, and what my interpretation of thee truth is. I try and be objective, and suggest that more Liberal Democrat Voters should try it more often as well.

Yarddog said:

I know of no Democrat that thinks that being food stamps and welfare is a good thing. That's a right wing myth.

Most Republicans don't know that they have just as many Socialist programs as Democrats. They just don't have the logic to rationalize it.

That would be a good thing.

Glad I'm a moderate. Lol

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I constantly hear Libertarian's, and Moderates, and so many people in the middle call themselves those things.

But when was thee last time a 3rd party was in the mainstream debates? It's because at thee end of the day, both Republican's and Democrats squeeze them out, and at thee end of thee day a persons core value are more Liberal, or more Conservative. Hence therefore at thee end of the day, you're either a Democrat or a Republican.

Just because you think and say that you're a "moderate", doesn't mean you're. Ultimately, you're a Democrat or a Republicans, and so far your debates show that you're a Democrat.

Simon/Rock said:

Your statistics say: Percentage of population receiving Food Stamps.
Under President Barrack Insane Obama(Democrat), it spiked all the way to 15percent of the population, and from that chart that is the highest it has ever been. Seven out of thee Eight years that Barrack Obama was President, were the worst years that America has given out Food Stamps.

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I'm just pointing out that it peaked from Bush's policies. (the first year of a president's administration, is under the previous president's budget, and the impact can persist for several years.) Notice that the number recipients ballooned under Bush's budgets, and declined under Obama's. Obama couldn't just cancel the Great Recession triggered by Bush's tax policies, but he could start reducing the damage.

Since 2017, Under Trump(Republican) anyone can see that the people that are collecting Food stamps from the government have declined.

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The trend begun in Obama's administration continues.

Historically, republicans start recessions and blame democrats for them. And after democrats repair the economy, republicans take credit for it.

Instead of blindly following the republican talking points, you should look at the data by itself. There's a reason the number of food stamp recipients rise after republicans take chard, and fall after democrats take charge.

charity1 said:

good point.

esp when we see extremists in our Congress calling the right the F word.. Fascist

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We always know what the left is up to because they accuse us of what they are doing.

The definition of hypocrite.