Moses the prophet???

BABerean2 · Sep 2, 2019

joshua 1 9 said:
Matthew 5:19
So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

In context...

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Christ came to fulfill the Law of Moses, since He is the only one who ever kept it perfectly. See John 19:30.
Paul confirms the temporary nature of the Sinai Covenant in Galatians 3:16-29. Paul said the law was "added" 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham "until" the seed (Christ) could come to whom the promise was made.

Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Anyone who teaches others to lie, steal, or kill, is not following God.

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

In the verse above Christ quotes from the Old Covenant, and reveals the higher standard of the New Covenant with the words "But I say...".

There are two separate sets of commandments in the verse below.

Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

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joshua 1 9 · Sep 2, 2019

BABerean2 said:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Jesus said: "It is finished" before I was conceived and before I was born. His work was finished before He began to do a work in my life. There is what Jesus does for us. There is also what Jesus is able to do in us and through us.

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

joshua 1 9 said:
Genesis Chapter one begins with the word: Beginning.
Genesis Chapter three begins with the word: Serpent.
We have four words to deal with in terms of the tree itself.
(Tree - knowledge - good - evil )
There are 14 letters here we can study the meaning of.
The first letter is the Vov: this represents the man standing, connecting Heaven and Earth.
Knowledge begins with the letter Hei, in English HAY when we want to get someone attention.
God made Heaven and Earth, Man and Women, Good and Evil.
וּמֵעֵ֗ץ
ū-mê-‘êṣ,

הַדַּ֙עַת֙
had-da-‘aṯ

ט֣וֹב
ṭō-wḇ

וָרָ֔ע
wā-rā‘,

beautifully shown to us as Jacob fleeing rests on the Rock and the Ladder connecting heaven and earth. Interestingly enough the Passover is considered to be like a ladder where every step leads you up until you are in His Presence.

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

joshua 1 9 said:
Jesus said: "It is finished" before I was conceived and before I was born. His work was finished before He began to do a work in my life. There is what Jesus does for us. There is also what Jesus is able to do in us and through us.

Is it telling that we are told that He was crucified on a tree? Scripture has revealed to us what that tree is and why all who die on that particular tree is cursed.

joshua 1 9 · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
Is it telling that we are told that He was crucified on a tree? Scripture has revealed to us what that tree is and why all who die on that particular tree is cursed.

I am doing a study of the Tree of he Knowledge of Good and Evil. Also there is the Tree of Life. So yes a tree is very symbolic.

LittleLambofJesus · Sep 2, 2019

Prophet......Lamb of God.......Son of God........Repent!
[The Muslims of course believe this this Mohamed being spoken of]

Deuteronomy 18:
18 A Prophet I will raise up to them from within/07130 qereb brothers of them as you.
And I give My words in His mouth, and He speaks to them all which I shall instruct Him.
19 And becomes the man who not is listening to My words which He shall speak in My name, I shall require from him. [Acts 3:22/Acts 7:37]

John 1:29
The on-morrow John is looking and seeing Jesus coming toward him and is saying, "Behold! the Lamb of the GOD, the one taking away the Sin of the World";
34 And I have seen, and have witnessed, that this-one is the Son of the God.'
[Revelation 2:18]

Matthew 17:5
Still of Him speaking, behold! a luminous cloud overshadows them and behold! a Voice out of the cloud saying
"this is being the Son of Me, the Beloved One, in Whom I am pleased<2106>,
be ye hearing Him!
[Mark 9:7 Luke 9:34-35]

Acts 3:22 For Moses indeed [*toward the fathers] is saying:
'That a prophet to ye shall be raising up, Lord the God of ye, out of the brothers of ye as Me.
Of Him ye shall be hearing/akousesqe according to all as much as ever He should be speaking toward ye. [Deut 18:18-19/Acts 7:37]

Revelation 2:18
And to the messenger of the assembly in Thyatira, write!
Now this is saying the Son of the GOD, the One having the eyes of Him as flame of fire, and the feet of Him as to burnished-brass.

Kindgdom Bible Studies Revelation Series
The church in Thyatira has a longer message delivered to it from Jesus Christ than any of the seven churches, although it is interesting to note that the church there is the smallest of the seven, and the city of Thyatira is the smallest of the seven cities..
“These things saith the Son of God, who hath His eyes like unto a flame of fire, and His feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman/wife Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols” (Rev. 2:18-20).
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An interesting thread:

Who is the prophet in Deuteronomy 18:18?

LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
When did Yahweh ever call Muhammad His "beloved son"?

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Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

joshua 1 9 said:
I am doing a study of the Tree of he Knowledge of Good and Evil. Also there is the Tree of Life. So yes a tree is very symbolic.

The identity of the Tree is found in its name and what it caused. The fruit reserved for God alone was knowledge but not all knowledge very specific knowledge, knowledge of good and evil. Knowledge that at the time belong to God alone. So the question becomes why would Satan want man to gain that knowledge and God said on the day you eat it you will die. Wouldn't knowing what is evil help men to avoid doing what is evil? That would be mans way but God's way is different from ours. At this point in time all man knew was that everything was good and in his own case very good. God never intended man to place himself under what that tree represents, The Law. Paul tells us it is impossible to know what sin is unless the Law revealed it to him. How did Adam and Eve become aware of their sin if not from the same Law that told Paul told them. As long as Man was not under Law Satan could not touch him. Satan had to get them to leave God's Grace for the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil and in eating the fruit they died. Law we are told is the Ministry of Death wielded by the Angel of Death anti-Christ.

Now the Good Shepherd, the Christ, came seeking His lost sheep. The Good Shepherd called His sheep and hearing His voice they came. The Law had already begun doing the work of Satan in us. We had walked in perfect fellowship with the Christ and each other in the Garden. Now with the knowledge of good and evil we became judges, We judged Satan, we judged each other and most stunningly with the knowledge of good and evil, the Kaw, we accused the Lord for having given Adam the woman Eve he had pining over. We are not free to live anyway we want to we now serve under the Royal Law of Love or Grace when Love is in action. A Law that has what the written Law does not have the Power for us to live as we are called to in The Beatitudes and various other connected teachings. Satan if he cannot get us to forsake Grace entirely for Law he will seek to have you combine it as we see in the walk of so many people. Who believe as Adam and Eve did this would help them be pleasing to the Lord. The world also took the way of Law over Grace and look at what has taken place judging people, places, events and for some either judging how we like or dislike the things the Lord is doing. Why He allowed bad for the redeemed, good for the evil. We like Lot have settled into Sodom and Gomorrah and like Lot we moved into the gate of the city where the government was run from. Just as we are now trying to change the people of Sodom through legislation. It does not work as we are robbed of our Peace, etc. While Abraham who remained an alien and a stranger in this world had perfect fellowship with the Lord.

LittleLambofJesus · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said: ↑
Is it telling that we are told that He was crucified on a tree? Scripture has revealed to us what that tree is and why all who die on that particular tree is cursed.

joshua 1 9 said: ↑
I am doing a study of the Tree of he Knowledge of Good and Evil. Also there is the Tree of Life. So yes a tree is very symbolic.

Some say Jesus was crucified on a large stake while some say it was a stake with a cross beam.

According to Josephus, 1000's of Jews were crucified during the siege of 70ad Jerusalem.[both Jewish Rebels and common Jews].
The making of the crosses/stake [especially the cross beam cross], along with the wooden siege equipment would have pretty much decimated the trees in and around Judea......[shown at bottom of post]

The Destruction of Jerusalem 70ad - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
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Isaac on the wood, a prefigure of the crucifixion of Jesus the Christ............

Genesis 22:
9 And they come in unto the place of which 'Elohiym hath spoken to him, and there Abraham buildeth the altar, and arrangeth the wood/06086 `ets, and bindeth Yitschaq his son, and placeth him upon the altar above the wood/06086 `ets;
10 and Abraham putteth forth his hand, and taketh the knife--to slaughter his son.
13 And Abraham is lifting his eyes and behold a ram behind being held in thicket, in horns of him and Abraham is going and and he is taking the ram
and he is offering up him as ascent offering instead of his son.

6086 `ets from 6095;
a tree (from its firmness); hence, wood (plural sticks):--+ carpenter, gallows, helve, + pine, plank, staff, stalk, stick, stock, timber, tree, wood.
H6086 עֵץ (`ets), occurs 328 times in 288 verses

Acts 13:29 and when they did finish all the things written about Him,
having taken down from the wood/xulou<3586>, they laid Him in a tomb
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And like Isaac, Jesus also lives........

Revelation 1:18 and the living One! And I became dead, and behold, I AM living into the Ages of the Ages.
And I am having the Keys of the Hades and of the Death

Revelation 22:14 Happy/blessed the ones rinsing the robes of them, that it shall be the authority of them on the Wood<xulon <3586> of the Life, and to the Gates they may be entering into the City.

3586. xulon from another form of the base of 3582;
timber (as fuel or material); by implication, a stick, club or tree or other wooden article or substance:--staff, stocks, tree, wood.

Isaac+is+a+picture+of+Jesus+carrying+his+own+cross+up+Mt.+Calvary.jpg

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Luke 3:9
“And even now the ax is laid to the root of the trees.
Therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.”
Luke 21:29
Then He spoke to them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, and all the trees.

Mark 11:21
And Peter, remembering, said to Him, “Rabbi, look!
The fig tree which You cursed has withered away.”

Galatian 3:13
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us, for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”,

Revelation 7:3
saying, “Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the Aervants of our God on their foreheads.”
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Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized- Poll Thread

The Siege of Jerusalem : Christian Courier
https://www.christiancourier.com › articles › 1261-siege-of-jerusalem-the
Titus surrounded the city and hoped the display of force would convince the Jews to surrender. It did not. The city had natural defenses by cliffs on all sides except the north. Thus he attacked there. His war machines broke through the first of three walls in early May. Within five days, they were through the second.
Food rations inside the city were scarce. During the nights, ghostly figures would sneak through hidden passages to steal food amid supplies from the soldiers’ tents. Titus decreed that those captured were to be crucified.
A forest of crosses littered the countryside as trees were stripped off the land to satisfy the orders for crucifying some 500 Jews per day (cf. Matthew 27:25).
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Did Jesus die on a cross or a stake?

WitnessforGOD said:
Hello all, I'm new here and would like to start off with a question that a lot are confused about. Most of christendoms churches teach Jesus died On a cross hence they have crosses In there churches and on steeples and they wear a pagan torture device around there necks not knowing what the bible teaches about what Jesus died on.
Did Jesus Really Die on a Cross?
THE cross, says one encyclopedia, is the most familiar symbol of Christianity. Many religious paintings and works of art depict Jesus nailed to a cross. Why is this symbol so widespread in Christendom? Did Jesus really die on a cross?
Many would point to the Bible for the answer. For example, according to the King James Version, at the time of Jesus execution, onlookers made fun of Jesus and challenged him to come down from the cross. (Matthew 27:40, 42) Many other Bible translations read similarly. Todays English Version says of Simon from Cyrene: The soldiers forced him to carry Jesus cross. (Mark 15:21) In these verses, the word cross is translated from the Greek word staurosʹ. Is there a solid basis for such a translation? What is the meaning of that original word?
Was It a Cross?
According to Greek scholar W. E. Vine, staurosʹ denotes, primarily, an upright pale or stake. On such malefactors were nailed for execution. Both the noun and the verb stauroō, to fasten to a stake or pale, are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two beamed cross.
The Imperial Bible-Dictionary says that the word staurosʹ properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling a piece of ground. The dictionary continues: Even amongst the Romans the crux (Latin, from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole. Thus, it is not surprising that The Catholic Encyclopedia states: Certain it is, at any rate, that the cross originally consisted of a simple vertical pole, sharpened at its upper end.
There is another Greek word, xyʹlon, that Bible writers used to describe the instrument of Jesus execution. A Critical Lexicon and Concordance to the English and Greek New Testament defines xyʹlon as a piece of timber, a wooden stake. It goes on to say that like staurosʹ, xyʹlon was simply an upright pale or stake to which the Romans nailed those who were thus said to be crucified.
In line with this, we note that the King James Version reads at Acts 5:30: The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree [xyʹlon]. Other versions, though rendering staurosʹ as cross, also translate xyʹlon as tree. At Acts 13:29, The Jerusalem Bible says of Jesus: When they had carried out everything that scripture foretells about him they took him down from the tree [xyʹlon] and buried him.
In view of the basic meaning of the Greek words staurosʹ and xyʹlon, the Critical Lexicon and Concordance, quoted above, observes: Both words disagree with the modern idea of a cross, with which we have become familiarised by pictures. In other words, what the Gospel writers described using the word staurosʹ was nothing like what people today call a cross. Appropriately, therefore, the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures uses the expression torture stake at Matthew 27:40-42 and in other places where the word staurosʹ appears. Similarly, the Complete Jewish Bible uses the expression execution stake.
Origin of the Cross
If the Bible does not really say that Jesus was executed on a cross, then why do all the churches that claim to teach and follow the BibleCatholic, Protestant, and Orthodoxadorn their buildings with the cross and use it as a symbol of their faith? How did the cross come to be such a popular symbol?
The answer is that the cross is venerated not only by churchgoers who claim to follow the Bible but also by people far removed from the Bible and whose worship far predates that of Christian churches. Numerous religious reference works acknowledge that the use of crosses in various shapes and forms goes back to remote periods of human civilization. For example, ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics and depictions of their gods and goddesses often show a cross in the shape of a T with a circle at the top. It is called the ansate, or handle-shaped, cross and is thought to be a symbol of life. In time, this form of the cross was adopted and used extensively by the Coptic Church and others.
According to The Catholic Encyclopedia, the primitive form of the cross seems to have been that of the so-called gamma cross (crux gammata), better known to Orientalists and students of prehistoric archæology by its Sanskrit name, swastika. This sign was widely used among Hindus in India and Buddhists throughout Asia and is still seen in decorations and ornaments in those areas.
It is not known exactly when the cross was adopted as a Christian symbol. Vines Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words states: By the middle of the 3rd cent. A.D. the churches had either departed from, or had travestied, certain doctrines of the Christian faith. In order to increase the prestige of the apostate ecclesiastical system pagans were received into the churches apart from regeneration by faith, and were permitted largely to retain their pagan signs and symbols, including the cross.
Some writers point to the claim by the sun-god worshipper Constantine that in 312 C.E., while on one of his military campaigns, he had a vision of a cross superimposed on the sun along with the motto in Latin in hoc vince (by this conquer). Some time later, a Christian sign was emblazoned on the standards, shields, and armor of his army. (Pictured at left.) Constantine purportedly converted to Christianity, though he was not baptized until 25 years later on his deathbed. His motive was questioned by some. He acted rather as if he were converting Christianity into what he thought most likely to be accepted by his subjects as a catholic [universal] religion, than as if he had been converted to the teachings of Jesus the Nazarene, says the book The Non-Christian Cross.
Since then, crosses of many forms and shapes have come into use. For example, The Illustrated Bible Dictionary tells us that what is called St. Anthonys cross was shaped like a capital T, thought by some to be derived from the symbol of the [Babylonian] god Tammuz, the letter tau. There was also the St. Andrews cross, which is in the shape of the letter X, and the familiar two-beamed cross with the crossbar lowered. This latter type, called the Latin cross, is erroneously held by tradition to be the shape of the cross on which our Lord died.
What First-Century Christians Believed
The Bible shows that in the first century, many who heard Jesus became believers and accepted the redeeming value of his sacrificial death. After the apostle Paul preached to the Jews in Corinth, proving that Jesus is the Christ, says the Bible, Crispus the presiding officer of the synagogue became a believer in the Lord, and so did all his household. And many of the Corinthians that heard began to believe and be baptized. (Acts 18:5-8) Instead of introducing some religious symbol or image into their worship, Paul instructed his fellow Christians to flee from idolatry and from any other practice drawn from pagan worship.1 Corinthians 10:14.
Historians and researchers have found no evidence to validate the use of the cross among the early Christians. Interestingly, the book History of the Cross quotes one late 17th-century writer who asked: Can it be pleasing to the blessed Jesus to behold His disciples glorying in the image of that instrument of capital punishment on which He [supposedly] patiently and innocently suffered, despising the shame? How would you answer?
Worship acceptable to God does not require objects or images. What agreement does Gods temple have with idols? Paul asked. (2 Corinthians 6:14-16) Nowhere do the Scriptures suggest that a Christians worship should include the use of a likeness of the instrument used to impale Jesus.Compare Matthew 15:3; Mark 7:13.
What, then, is the identifying mark of true Christians? Not the cross or any other symbol, but love. Jesus told his followers: I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.John 13:34, 35.

Maria Billingsley · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
the prophet Moses is said to be a prophet so great that only Messiah Himself would be greater than him. So let’s take a look at one of the greatest prophecy. A prophecy that contains the entire history of Israel from her beginning to her end. Fascinatingly enough the entire Gentile church age is also in this magnificent prophecy De. 32

32 Give ear, ye heavens, and I will speak; And let the earth hear the words of my mouth. 2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain; My speech shall distil as the dew, As the small rain upon the tender grass, And as the showers upon the herb.
3 For I will proclaim the name of Jehovah: Ascribe ye greatness unto our God. All of creation will the testimony about the Lord God Almighty. The doctrine is perfect for all.

4 The Rock, his work is perfect; For all his ways are justice: A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, Just and right is he. 5 They have dealt corruptly with him, [they are] not his children, [it is] their blemish; [They are] a perverse and crooked generation. We have here what is part of an ever expanding revelation of the who is the Seed and the Rock. We know that there is but one Rock spoken of in this manner and He is the Christ. This Rock is God and perfect in all His ways. The people spoken of here who will act corruptly with Him as we know they did almost from the beginning of His public ministry and certainly until the end. They are Lo-Ami not My people. And then we hear the Lord speaking they are a perverse and crooked generation. This is the apostate portion of Israel in every generation from which there is always a faithful remnant as well.

6 Do ye thus requite Jehovah, O foolish people and unwise? Is not he thy father that hath bought thee? He hath made thee, and established thee. they have acted foolishly and unwise towards as well as corruptly. This Rock is their Father but this is not God the Father the Father of Yeshua. This is the Lord Jesus who is our Father and through Him, the one Son of God, we have now been made sons and may call Him Abba. It is only through faith in the Son Jesus Christ that anyone may call The Father Abba, Jew or Gentile.

7 Remember the days of old, Consider the years of many generations: Ask thy father, and he will show thee; Thine elders, and they will tell thee. 8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, When he separated the children of men, He set the bounds of the peoples According to the number of the children of Israel. Remember the days of old when the Rock led them through the wilderness and they drank water from that Rock and Paul tells us that "Rock was Christ." This is not a New Rock this was the Rock of the Patriarchs. The Ancient of Days Jesus Christ. Israel's relationship with the Lord Jesus was so special that it was He gave the Gentiles lands based not on the number of their children but on the number of Israelites. Did Israel see and know the Lord as did those who lived during His lifetime of course not. We are told that before He came we saw Him as through a glass darkly and this is true for those looking forward to the Light of the World as well as for us before we became believers and it was then that we could see His marvelous Light, His Glory.

As we move on we will see just how special a relationship He had with Israel and what Israel's response was to all He blessed her with.

Seems Moses was not considered a Prophet but a messenger that God spoke plainly to without having to go through visions and dreams.

◄ Numbers 12 ►

1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. 2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.
6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.
8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

Maria Billingsley said:
Seems Moses was not considered a Prophet but a messenger that God spoke plainly to without having to go through visions and dreams.

◄ Numbers 12 ►

1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. 2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth.
6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.
8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?

Isn’t it great being able to talk of Him and those he used in His Word? Very nice presentation and thoughtful but I must disagree. Deuteronomy tells of a Prophet who was to come who was greater than moses. Moses was and is considered the greatest prophet by apostate Israel having rejected Christ. Moses unlike the other prophets spoke with Lord face to face. The other prophets received dreams, Visons and the like. It’s pretty clear that the way the verse is structured that the promised greater Prophet was being compared to Moses as a prophet.

LittleLambofJesus · Sep 2, 2019

Mathetes66 said:
No prophet was greater than John the Baptist, so John, according to Jesus was greater than Moses. Yet Jesus far surpassed & was greater than either one as a Prophet, Priest & King. He is God the Son, the King of kings & the Lord of lords!

John 1:
24The ones who had been sent were from the Pharisees. 25They asked him, "Why then do you baptize, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the prophet?"
[Malachi 3:1]
26John answered them, "I baptize in water, but among you stands one whom you don't know.
27He is the one who comes after me, who is preferred before me, whose sandal strap I'm not worthy to loosen." 28These things were done in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.
29The next day, he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30This is he of whom I said, 'After me comes a man who is preferred before me, for he was before me.' 34I have seen, and have testified that this is the Son of God."

Mat 3:7
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them,
“Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? [fulfilled in 70ad]
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Thank you Jesus........

Jer 32:32
‘because of all the evil of the children of Israel and the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke Me to anger—they, their kings, their princes, their priests, their prophets, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
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Rev 1:6
and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Rev 5:10
And have made us kings and priests to our God;
And we[fn] shall reign on the earth.”

Kingdom Bible Studies Royal Priesthood #1
Kindgdom Bible Studies Royal Priesthood Part 17
THE MELCHIZEDEK CONNECTION

One of the most intriguing descriptions of the unique character of the High Priesthood of Jesus is found in Heb. 7:17 wherein it is stated, "Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." This one grand statement shows that Jesus is not like any of the other priests who the people of Israel knew so much about. The entire seventh chapter of Hebrews is about THE MELCHIZEDEK CONNECTION, that is, it is about the way Jesus Christ, and thus, His body, the Royal Priesthood, is related to a strange man named Melchizedek.
And the connection between Jesus Christ and Melchizedek is worth exploring. Let's take a look at the Melchizedek Connection.

Hebrews 7:1
For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
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G3841 παντοκράτωρ (pantokratōr),occurs 10 times in 10 verses
[Only 1 verse outside of Revelation of the NT]

2 Corinthians 6:18
And I shall be to ye as a father and ye shall be to Me as sons and daughters is saying Lord Almighty<3841>.

Revelation 15:3
They sing the song of Moses[OC], the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb[NC], saying:
“Great and marvelous are Your works, Lord God Almighty!
Just and true are Your ways, O King of the saints![fn]

The Great City/Harlot/Queen Revelation chapts 17-19

..............................Revelation 19

Hallelujah and Its Hebrew Meaning - Israel Study Center
“Hallelu” (הללו) and “Yah” (יה).

1 After these I hear as a great sound of a vast throng in the heaven, saying,
"HalleluYah! the salvation and the glory and the honor, and the power of our God; 2 That true and righteous His judgings, that He judges the great harlot who corrupts the earth in Her whoredom, and avenges<1556> the blood of His bond-servants out of Her hand".
3 And a second time they have declared<4483> "HalleluYah! and the smoke of Her is ascending into the ages of the ages!"
4 And fall the twenty four Elders and the four living-ones,
and they worship to the GOD the One sitting upon the Throne, saying, "Amen! HalleluYah!"
5 And a Voice came out from the Throne saying: "Be ye praising to the GOD of us, all ye bond-servants of Him, and those fearing Him, the small and the great".
6 And I hear as sound of a throng, much, and as a sound of waters, many, and as sound of thunders, strong saying: "HalleluYah! that reigns Lord our God, the Almighty".

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Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

LittleLambofJesus said:
John 1:
24The ones who had been sent were from the Pharisees. 25They asked him, "Why then do you baptize, if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the prophet?"
[Malachi 3:1]
26John answered them, "I baptize in water, but among you stands one whom you don't know.
27He is the one who comes after me, who is preferred before me, whose sandal strap I'm not worthy to loosen." 28These things were done in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.
29The next day, he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30This is he of whom I said, 'After me comes a man who is preferred before me, for he was before me.' 34I have seen, and have testified that this is the Son of God."

Mat 3:7
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them,
“Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? [fulfilled in 70ad]
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Thank you Jesus........

Jer 32:32
‘because of all the evil of the children of Israel and the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke Me to anger—they, their kings, their princes, their priests, their prophets, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
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Rev 1:6
and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
Rev 5:10
And have made us kings and priests to our God;
And we[fn] shall reign on the earth.”

Kingdom Bible Studies Royal Priesthood #1
Kindgdom Bible Studies Royal Priesthood Part 17
THE MELCHIZEDEK CONNECTION

One of the most intriguing descriptions of the unique character of the High Priesthood of Jesus is found in Heb. 7:17 wherein it is stated, "Thou art a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek." This one grand statement shows that Jesus is not like any of the other priests who the people of Israel knew so much about. The entire seventh chapter of Hebrews is about THE MELCHIZEDEK CONNECTION, that is, it is about the way Jesus Christ, and thus, His body, the Royal Priesthood, is related to a strange man named Melchizedek.
And the connection between Jesus Christ and Melchizedek is worth exploring. Let's take a look at the Melchizedek Connection.

Hebrews 7:1
For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,
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G3841 παντοκράτωρ (pantokratōr),occurs 10 times in 10 verses
[Only 1 verse outside of Revelation of the NT]

2 Corinthians 6:18
And I shall be to ye as a father and ye shall be to Me as sons and daughters is saying Lord Almighty<3841>.

Revelation 15:3
They sing the song of Moses[OC], the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb[NC], saying:
“Great and marvelous are Your works, Lord God Almighty!
Just and true are Your ways, O King of the saints![fn]

The Great City/Harlot/Queen Revelation chapts 17-19

..............................Revelation 19

Hallelujah and Its Hebrew Meaning - Israel Study Center
“Hallelu” (הללו) and “Yah” (יה).

1 After these I hear as a great sound of a vast throng in the heaven, saying,
"HalleluYah! the salvation and the glory and the honor, and the power of our God; 2 That true and righteous His judgings, that He judges the great harlot who corrupts the earth in Her whoredom, and avenges<1556> the blood of His bond-servants out of Her hand".
3 And a second time they have declared<4483> "HalleluYah! and the smoke of Her is ascending into the ages of the ages!"
4 And fall the twenty four Elders and the four living-ones,
and they worship to the GOD the One sitting upon the Throne, saying, "Amen! HalleluYah!"
5 And a Voice came out from the Throne saying: "Be ye praising to the GOD of us, all ye bond-servants of Him, and those fearing Him, the small and the great".
6 And I hear as sound of a throng, much, and as a sound of waters, many, and as sound of thunders, strong saying: "HalleluYah! that reigns Lord our God, the Almighty".

......................

As usual love reading the studies you assemble and your illustrations are second to none the one of the journey to Calvary by Jacob is one of my favorites. Having the cross being carried next to it is great. I wish I was an artist I would like to know if that same picture carrying the cross could be done as a shadow underneath him.

Maria Billingsley · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
Isn’t it great being able to talk of Him and those he used in His Word? Very nice presentation and thoughtful but I must disagree. Deuteronomytells of a Prophet who was to come who was greater than moses. Moses was and is considered the greatest prophet, having rejected Christ. Moses unlike the other prophets spoke with Lord face to face. The other prophets received dreams, Visons and the like. It’s pretty clear that the way the verse is structured that the promised greater Prophet was being compared to Moses as a prophet.

I read your response however it seems contradictory and a bit off. ??
You said"Moses was and is considered the greatest prophet, having rejected Christ."

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

Maria Billingsley said:
I read your response however it seems contradictory and a bit off. ??
You said"Moses was and is considered the greatest prophet, having rejected Christ."

m my error . remnant of a sentence about the apostate portion of Israel's rejecting Christ with that rejection it ruled out Christ or John or any other N.T. So apostate Israel believes, correctly the passage speaking about the greater Prophet is the Messiah. The apostate portion of Israel believes Moses was the greatest prophet because God spoke to him face to face and without apocalyptic imagery etc. Sorry for the confusion.

joshua 1 9 · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
The Law had already begun doing the work of Satan in us.

You should read the 119 psalm to see how much David delights himself in the law of God. Clearly the law was given to show us the way of life, health, blessing and prosperity.

I have chosen the way of truth; I have set my heart on your laws.
31
I hold fast to your statutes, O LORD; do not let me be put to shame.
32
I run in the path of your commands, for you have set my heart free.

BABerean2 · Sep 2, 2019

joshua 1 9 said:
You should read the 119 psalm to see how much David delights himself in the law of God. Clearly the law was given to show us the way of life, health, blessing and prosperity.

I have chosen the way of truth; I have set my heart on your laws.
31
I hold fast to your statutes, O LORD; do not let me be put to shame.
32
I run in the path of your commands, for you have set my heart free.

King David also committed adultery with another man's wife, and then conspired to have that man killed.

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LittleLambofJesus · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
As usual love reading the studies you assemble and your illustrations are second to none the one of the journey to Calvary by Jacob is one of my favorites. Having the cross being carried next to it is great. I wish I was an artist I would like to know if that same picture carrying the cross could be done as a shadow underneath him.

Thank you Vicky.

I am studying the trumpets in Revelation in relation to the trumpets of the Roman army during the Jewish wars leading up to 70ad........so many studies, so little time..........

Joshua 6 [7 Priests-7 trumpets-shofars] and Revelation [7 Messengers-7 trumpets]

Joshua 6
4 And seven Priests carry seven trumpets of rams' horns in front of the Ark.
Then on the seventh day, march around the City seven times, while the Priests blow the trumpets.
13 Then seven Priests bearing seven trumpets of rams' horns before the Ark of the LORD went on continually and blew with the trumpets.
And the armed men went before Them.
But the rear guard came after the Ark of the LORD, while the Priests continued blowing the trumpets.

Revelation 8:
2 And I saw the seven Messengers which stood before God,
and to Them were given seven trumpets.
6 And the seven Messengers having the seven trumpets make ready Themselves that They should be trumpeting<4537>.

Visual Timeline of the Roman-Jewish War ARTchive

Some interesting info on the 1st century trumpets........

Revelation 8 Commentary- Plagued by Trumpets
The Roman Assault on Israel Began around the Feast of Trumpets Hence the Seven Trumpets of Revelation—Thus Began the Jewish War.

In A.D. 66 while Judea was aflame in bloodshed, riot and revolt, Rome responded by sending the 12th legion in addition to thousands of auxiliaries from neighboring kingdoms. These troops, as if orchestrated by God, arrived in Jerusalem in the Jewish month of Tishri, a month that begins with the Feast of Trumpets.
Called the Day of Judgment, it is on this day that trumpets sound the somber days of atonement and final judgment (Leviticus 23:24, Numbers 29:1).
Thus began the Jewish War.3
The A.D. 70 Doctrine View, Interpretation, Exposition and Commentary of Revelation 8: In Every Event that Fulfills the Seven Trumpets of Revelation an Audible Trumpet Sound Was Heard.
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Jewish Roots: The Sound Of The Trumpet
For if the Trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle?
(1 Corinthians 14:8).

The Apostle Paul used the Roman military trumpet as a metaphor for spiritual battle. First-century historian Josephus wrote that the Roman army did nothing, except by trumpet signals. He listed three specific trumpet sounds, all of which can be devotionally applied.

The first trumpet was a signal to prepare to depart. "Now when they are to go out of their camp, the trumpet gives a sound."(1) The Bible believer should be ready to depart swiftly for any field of conflict as ordered, always ready to fight the good fight of faith (1 Tim. 6:12; 2 Tim. 4:7).

The second trumpet was a signal to form up: "Then do the trumpets sound again, to order them to get ready for the march."(1) At this stage, a believer should have on the whole armor of God.
The Lord wants skilled warriors, lined up with others, who will do battle against the wiles of the Devil (Eph. 6:11).

The third trumpet sound was the order to march: "Then do the trumpets give a sound a third time, that they are to go out."(1) Some have suggested that this is the equivalent of "the last trumpet" that Paul referred to in 1 Corinthians 15:52 concerning the Rapture of the church: Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed--in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed (1 Cor. 15:51-52).

This trumpet may also point to the personal resolve of a believer to march out to serve Christ, to stand against all challenges to God's kingdom, and to be willing to endure hardships like a good soldier (2 Tim. 2:3).
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Visual Timeline of the Roman-Jewish War ARTchive

You can hear the Roman trumpets blowing in this vid

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

Are the bowls and trumpets repeats and if so why or why not? Thanks

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

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Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

BABerean2 said:
King David also committed adultery with another man's wife, and then conspired to have that man.

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