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Are there a series of events in the bible that could or might fit into a pattern that goes from (chaos) to (order) then to (more order)?
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Not quite the same, but the story of Ruth goes from death and loss to a degree of restoration when they return to Israel and then even greater restoration when Boaz marries Ruth.
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Yes. The age prior to the thousand years in Rev 20 is chaos, then Christ returns and the rod of iron rule over the nations begins and Satan is imprisoned, so that is order, then a brief rebellion and the GWTJ then the eternity which is not only orderly but without sin or evil.
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Thank you for getting back to me. I'm not even sure I'm describing the question correctly.
It might be (confusion) to (order) to (more order)
or (disorganized) to (organized) to (perfect)
or (disorganized) to (organized) to (more organized)
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Ezekiel's vision of dry bones might fit, if the state of death and dryness fits your first criteria.
A similar one is the blind man in the Gospel who regained his sight in stages. At first he saw "men as trees", but the second pass healed him completely.
The hand of the LORD was upon me, and He brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me down in the middle of the valley; and it was full of bones.
He caused me to pass among them round about, and behold, [there were] very many on the surface of the valley; and lo, [they were] very dry.
He said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, You know."
Again He said to me, "Prophesy over these bones and say to them, 'O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.'
"Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones, 'Behold, I will cause breath to enter you that you may come to life.
'I will put sinews on you, make flesh grow back on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you that you may come alive; and you will know that I am the LORD.'"
So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone.
And I looked, and behold, sinews were on them, and flesh grew and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them.
Then He said to me, "Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they come to life."'"
So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they came to life and stood on their feet, an exceedingly great army.
Then He said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel; behold, they say, 'Our bones are dried up and our hope has perished. We are completely cut off.'
"Therefore prophesy and say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I will open your graves and cause you to come up out of your graves, My people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel.
"Then you will know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves and caused you to come up out of your graves, My people.
"I will put My Spirit within you and you will come to life, and I will place you on your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken and done it," declares the LORD.'" -Ezek 37.1-14
He caused me to pass among them round about, and behold, [there were] very many on the surface of the valley; and lo, [they were] very dry.
He said to me, "Son of man, can these bones live?" And I answered, "O Lord GOD, You know."
Again He said to me, "Prophesy over these bones and say to them, 'O dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.'
"Thus says the Lord GOD to these bones, 'Behold, I will cause breath to enter you that you may come to life.
'I will put sinews on you, make flesh grow back on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you that you may come alive; and you will know that I am the LORD.'"
So I prophesied as I was commanded; and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold, a rattling; and the bones came together, bone to its bone.
And I looked, and behold, sinews were on them, and flesh grew and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them.
Then He said to me, "Prophesy to the breath, prophesy, son of man, and say to the breath, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe on these slain, that they come to life."'"
So I prophesied as He commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they came to life and stood on their feet, an exceedingly great army.
Then He said to me, "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel; behold, they say, 'Our bones are dried up and our hope has perished. We are completely cut off.'
"Therefore prophesy and say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I will open your graves and cause you to come up out of your graves, My people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel.
"Then you will know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves and caused you to come up out of your graves, My people.
"I will put My Spirit within you and you will come to life, and I will place you on your own land. Then you will know that I, the LORD, have spoken and done it," declares the LORD.'" -Ezek 37.1-14
A similar one is the blind man in the Gospel who regained his sight in stages. At first he saw "men as trees", but the second pass healed him completely.
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I'm not sure exactly what kind of pattern you're looking for. The ones given so far seem apropos, but I don't understand the context of your question.
Let me suggest a very global example: The entire Bible is a story of confusion, mankind going their own way and ignoring God. God gave the law to Moses, creating order and opportunity for relationship. When that didn't work, God came in the flesh as Jesus, and gave us a picture of and the chance to choose the perfect order for relationship.
Let me suggest a very global example: The entire Bible is a story of confusion, mankind going their own way and ignoring God. God gave the law to Moses, creating order and opportunity for relationship. When that didn't work, God came in the flesh as Jesus, and gave us a picture of and the chance to choose the perfect order for relationship.
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Thank you so much, yes. My question was delivered to me in a manner that is a bit of a riddle to me too. The ideas you, and others, have posted here are very helpful though. Gives me some direction to look in, read about etc. My original question, I do think it is something similar to what you say above in the sense that I think this 'pattern' I'm looking for a parallel of in the Bible is something that encompasses an 'overall' or general message of the Bible. Not sure what to call it, maybe an intuition telling me that it's a general 'thing'. Something obvious to some and I'm just not seeing it. Dang! Actually, realistically I don't think I'm going to be able to narrow this down to anything specific, there are to many. . .
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I don't want to muddy this up but if I were to ask the same question, in the same way except with the thought of Christmas added to it the original question.
Is there a (confusion) to (order) to (more order)
or possibly (sporadic) to (uniform) to (powerful) that might fit into Christmas? Or just any sets of patterns that might be close to stated and be associated with Biblical - Christmas?
Is there a (confusion) to (order) to (more order)
or possibly (sporadic) to (uniform) to (powerful) that might fit into Christmas? Or just any sets of patterns that might be close to stated and be associated with Biblical - Christmas?
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The previous poster gave the answer I was about to give when I saw this thread. The Sea in Genesis fits that, in the culture of the Near East that is literally a symbol of primordial chaos. The pagan religions used it to show their gods bringing dominion during the Creation event. In the Bible, this is referenced because while the Hebrews are/were monotheists they had the same cultural language of symbolism etc. from living in that region.
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Probably not a good example for what your looking for, but redemption of the World fits the OP, especially from the standpoint of Michael Heiser's "Unseen Realm". But Jesus is making "All things New". In Heiser "Second Temple" Jewish view of Human Depravity, humans are messed up not just from the Garden of Eden, but from the sin of the watchers of Genesis 6 and the Tower of Babel event a few chapters after that. Essentially the plan of the Gospel is reversing things starting with Babel (Pentecost reverses that), the depravity brought by the watchers in Genesis 6 is what is going on now (As a Christian with our process of sanctification), and when Jesus returns the last part of what happened in Eden will be done away where (physical) death will be finally defeated and evil removed from the Earth.
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