Or just maybe you should practice on making yourself clear from the start
What I meant by a phenomenlogical-empirical standpoint is this: I have not and cannot personally witness who wrote those prophecies, when they wrote it, nor any of the events concerning their alleged fulfillment. How would you say that can be debunked?
So what is your argument here? Do you think Scripture was tampered to include an airplane? The Dead Sea Scrolls contain two preserve scrolls containing Isaiah chapter 60. Both scrolls antedate the Christian era. Isaiah is the author of Isaiah as it has always been traditionally known. The Torah is also well preserve in the Dead Sea Scrolls which antedates the Christian era. There is no way those prophesies could be deliberately fulfilled. The early church fathers didn't even understand verse 8 of Isaiah 60. It wasn't written for their time which is why Isaiah put a question mark at the end of the verse. He did that so that we future readers would take serious consideration of what we just read, because only the generation it was meant for would understand that prophecy.
The arrogant confidence with which he mischaracterized non-believers here, and defamed scientists about whom he knows nothing, speaks volumes.What exactly was unclear about "Nobody thinks this"?
My argument is that I can't know any of these things for myself.
If the Bible was tampered with then none of those prophesies can be fulfilled. For it is impossible for all those prophesies to fulfill if the Bible was tampered with to fit ancient beliefs. So how did Constantine know about the airplane when Bishop Ambrose didn't even understand the verse? Ambrose just tried to make sense of it but his interpretation is not contextually sound.
I've read your OP.If the Bible was tampered with then none of those prophesies can be fulfilled. For it is impossible for all those prophesies to fulfill if the Bible was tampered with to fit ancient beliefs. So how did Constantine know about the airplane when Bishop Ambrose didn't even understand the verse? Ambrose just tried to make sense of it but his interpretation is not contextually sound.
This is from his book On Virginity, translated by Daniel Callam:
“For the soul has its flights, as has been said: “Who are these that fly like clouds and like doves with their young?” You see, the soul has spiritual flights which, in a brief moment, circle the whole globe” (XVII.108).
This was a misinterpretation of the verse as it does not fit the context at all. Isaiah 60:8 was not meant for their time. So his err proves that they did not fudge the meaning. Besides, the airplane is a modern invention.
I made my case in the article so there is no need to re-write it all again here. If you have legitimate questions I'll more than happy to answer them. But it would be easier for you to read the article attentively before posting.
But Ambrose did mention globe.
Or just maybe you should practice on making yourself clear from the start
So tell me when in history did the Gentiles and their kings become great nations after accepting the Jewish Messiah?
Who are the infallible ones who peer review it? Bias atheists maybe?
There is no god or gods. I don't believe in any god. But I do believe and worship God. If you want to see proof there is a God then one way of investigating this is by studying prophecy. The prophecies I wrote about in my article are all supposed to reach fulfillment after the resurrection of Christ. If Christ is not raised, those prophesies don't fulfill.
