Bible is confusing me, need to take some time from studying it?

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Lately I've been studying the bible, and the historical context to Jesus's ministry.

There are many difficult passages. Obviously it's apparent just how watered down Christianity is in today's society, and if we are to truly live by the scripture just how disruptive that would be for our lives.

I take heart in the fact that Jesus's brothers didn't even believe until after he died on the cross. And James, Brother of Jesus's faith and ministry and martyrdom is corroborated by Josephus, a non-gospel source.

I'm glad I finally know a scarce few things about the bible. Thoughts?
 
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Amen. But the title of your thread and actual body of the text inside is a little contradictory. Why would it be confusing and require a need for taking a break? Better yet, since it seems you've been enlightened and have tasted the good Word, why not dig that much deeper in study and better yet obey what you do know. God will only pile on greater blessings if you do. IMO
 
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Lately I've been studying the bible, and the historical context to Jesus's ministry.

There are many difficult passages. Obviously it's apparent just how watered down Christianity is in today's society, and if we are to truly live by the scripture just how disruptive that would be for our lives.

I take heart in the fact that Jesus's brothers didn't even believe until after he died on the cross. And James, Brother of Jesus's faith and ministry and martyrdom is corroborated by Josephus, a non-gospel source.

I'm glad I finally know a scarce few things about the bible. Thoughts?
I think it's great your seeking out the scriptures, and would encourage you to keep at it. I run into difficult passages as well, but usually like to mull over them and meditate on them for a while to figure out their meaning, in accordance to their context.

Which passages do you find difficult specifically, if you don't mind me asking?
 
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Lately I've been studying the bible, and the historical context to Jesus's ministry.
Part of the difficulty, revealed to me in spirit,
is trying to study the historical context ,
instead
of devouring the BIBLE, reading, reading, reading, as a love letter from God to you,
...
instead of believing GOD'S WORD ....
 
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Obviously it's apparent just how watered down Christianity is in today's society, and if we are to truly live by the scripture just how disruptive that would be for our lives.
Yes, everyone who wants to be a follower of Jesus

must give up their life. A total disruption. (without even moving or changing jobs!!!)

Jesus said to the disciples: I know you cannot live the right way. I know you don't know how to live. COME TO ME, and LEARN FROM ME, JESUS SAID<
and I (JESUS) will show you how to live. With man it is impossible.
 
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Which passages do you find difficult specifically, if you don't mind me asking?

I find tough..
Matthew 15:21-28
Mark 4:11-12

I like Mark 3:21. Makes the story seem more credible to me.

Also find tough is Jesus's association with John The Baptist. Luke 7:28? Was Jesus "born of woman"? I find this passage very difficult to understand.
 
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I find tough..
Matthew 15:21-28
Mark 4:11-12

I like Mark 3:21. Makes the story seem more credible to me.

Also find tough is Jesus's association with John The Baptist. Luke 7:28? Was Jesus "born of woman"? I find this passage very difficult to understand.
There is a method of interpreting scripture called Biblical hermeneutics, which might help with understanding the more difficult verses and concepts (by also understanding the history, culture and context behind the passages). Here is just my opinion on them, based on my understanding:

In Matthew 15:21-28, a gentile woman came up to Jesus asking for her daughter to be set free from an evil spirit. The gentiles at the time were looked down upon by the Jews, because the Jews knew they were God's chosen people and were supposed to be a light to the other nations. Jesus Himself was also Jewish, and the gentile nations didn't follow God's laws nor His commands, but rather trusted in false gods. However, Old Testament scripture does mention the salvation of the gentiles, and those who knew and understood the scriptures knew this. Jesus was basically testing the woman's faith (which would have required a lot of faith since she wasn't Jewish), and she passed the test. I think Jesus also used the situation to show His disciples what it meant to live by faith, and to teach them that even gentiles could be saved. I'm sure at the time both were very radical ideas.

The concept of Jesus speaking in parables in Mark 4:11-12 and throughout the gospels in general is indeed difficult to understand; I still struggle with fully understanding it as well. But, I think the reason is explain in Romans 11:11. God allowed the hearts of the Jews (as a nation) to be hardened, so that they would reject Jesus as the messiah. God longed for them to be saved, but it wasn't time yet; He had planned to allow the Jewish people to reject Him so that salvation can be granted to everyone (the gentile nations). I do believe this is why Jesus spoke in parables, so that only those who were prepared to receive salvation would understand and be saved. Although, God will eventually save all of Israel as prophesied / promised.

Jesus at times did use confusing terminology. But I think in Luke 7:28, Jesus was describing people born in the physical world, not stating he was lesser than John the Baptist (since he was in fact born of a woman as well). He was making a parallel between the physical and spiritual / heavenly world, and that that even the least in Heaven will be greater than John.
 
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Obviously it's apparent just how watered down Christianity is in today's society, and if we are to truly live by the scripture just how disruptive that would be for our lives.

I take heart in the fact that Jesus's brothers didn't even believe until after he died on the cross.

You're thinking right!

If you read John Chapter 6, you will even read how Jesus was actually disliked by most of the crowd who even saw Him perform miracles but was repulsed by His teachings! :o

To make matters more interesting, Jesus didn't even bother trying to win them back when most of the crowd left :)

This is clearly NOT how Christians do their business!
 
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@Mark_CB curious, but what is that you are actually looking for? So far from what I have read, everyone is encouraging you to take in the Word from one perspective or another, but at the end of the day, what are you seeking here?

More understanding of who our Lord is?
History lesson?
Knowledge for knowledge's sake?

As per your initial question posed, you appear to want knowledge as a young believer and this is normal... though you mentioned you have found some scripture difficult to understand... yet this should not be so regardless if we are young or old in the faith... refer to Matthew 13...

10 The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”


11 He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12 Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables:

“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.


Hence why I am interested to know what is that you are seeking?

In all that we read and take in, should encourage us all to want to know who our Father is through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior... to seek His example, to be more like Him... because no matter what we have all fallen short... hence what should be important at this time... is knowing who Jesus is to you! Right now! Today!

Not what I or anyone else would say to you who Jesus is... but who is Jesus to you...

What say you young brother?
 
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