Help me with this experience please

JJTorres · Jul 25, 2018

Yesterday i went looking for a new church because where i go now i feel the worship and preaching are kinda of light and short but primarily because almost everyone there dont friends with me or dont look me in the eye.(its a small church).

So i went to downtown and searched for 5 churches, only finding 3. But only one gave me a peace feeling but it may have to do with the structure of the building and facade that i love.
Anyway when i went back, along the way back the words of a song "I shall not fear" came to my mind (because i was fearful of my current situation) and i felt this feeling both physical and emotional of a "sad joy" like happy tears when you meet your long lost biological parent/son, see your baby son for first time in the hospital
Its like your so relieved from pain you cry of happyness.

Later on at my house i heard in my mind both:
"You have to give me your heart"
" you're going to hell".

At night while walking with my dad he said something mundane and i felt this very deep concern for his soul.

And lastly while talking about church.
I felt like interested in the spiritual and God.

WAS ALL THAT GOD?

BTW im a backslidden christian who thinks that maybe as lost his salvation.

TalkTheCross · Jul 25, 2018

Hi JJ... Nice to meet you. I understand where you're coming from.

The first thing I want to bring up is Romans 10:9 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved."

I'm not going to get into a discussion of once saved always saved as the Bible tells us to work out our salvation (Philippians 2:12 "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."), which to me sounds like what your currently attempting to do.

I believe in the simplicity that is in Christ (2 Corinthians 11:3 "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.). This simplicity our enemy will use against us, causing us to doubt, have questions, and cause confusion.

This confusion is not from God (1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints."). So, if we know that the confusion is not from God...

Finally, keep seeking (Matthew 7:7-8 "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.").

My advice would be to keep praying and stay in the Word. Let God lead you, He will. Open your Bible, keep it with you, read it. Romans 10:17 tells us that "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God."

In my prayers, God bless and lead you.

SkyWriting · Jul 25, 2018

JJTorres said:
Yesterday i went looking for a new church because where i go now i feel the worship and preaching are kinda of light and short but primarily because almost everyone there dont friends with me or dont look me in the eye.(its a small church).

So i went to downtown and searched for 5 churches, only finding 3. But only one gave me a peace feeling but it may have to do with the structure of the building and facade that i love.
Anyway when i went back, along the way back the words of a song "I shall not fear" came to my mind (because i was fearful of my current situation) and i felt this feeling both physical and emotional of a "sad joy" like happy tears when you meet your long lost biological parent/son, see your baby son for first time in the hospital
Its like your so relieved from pain you cry of happyness.

Later on at my house i heard in my mind both:
"You have to give me your heart"
" you're going to hell".

At night while walking with my dad he said something mundane and i felt this very deep concern for his soul.

And lastly while talking about church.
I felt like interested in the spiritual and God.

WAS ALL THAT GOD?

BTW im a backslidden christian who thinks that maybe as lost his salvation.

The only way into Hell is to reject God to the point of calling Him Satan.
Everything else can be forgiven, by request only.

Albion · Jul 25, 2018

JJTorres said:
WAS ALL THAT GOD?

No, your mind and memory were stimulated by the problem you have been thinking about a lot.

Halbhh · Jul 25, 2018

JJTorres said:
Yesterday i went looking for a new church because where i go now i feel the worship and preaching are kinda of light and short but primarily because almost everyone there dont friends with me or dont look me in the eye.(its a small church).

So i went to downtown and searched for 5 churches, only finding 3. But only one gave me a peace feeling but it may have to do with the structure of the building and facade that i love.
Anyway when i went back, along the way back the words of a song "I shall not fear" came to my mind (because i was fearful of my current situation) and i felt this feeling both physical and emotional of a "sad joy" like happy tears when you meet your long lost biological parent/son, see your baby son for first time in the hospital
Its like your so relieved from pain you cry of happyness.

Later on at my house i heard in my mind both:
"You have to give me your heart"
" you're going to hell".

At night while walking with my dad he said something mundane and i felt this very deep concern for his soul.

And lastly while talking about church.
I felt like interested in the spiritual and God.

WAS ALL THAT GOD?

BTW im a backslidden christian who thinks that maybe as lost his salvation.

JJ, I was also a stay sheep, lost and prodigal, and He rescued me.

Along with the good answer in just post #2 above, I want to give you the very best help and aid I've ever found --

Read some of Christ's words each day (even a few verses of words He says in the 4 gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John), but as you do, --> listen <-- with all of your heart. --

27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

His words build our faith(!) -- "So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ." (Romans 10:17)

Every word Christ said is from God -- and they are special words that will endure forever, even after this Earth has passed away --

49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. 50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”

His words will literally continue forever, will be with us in the age to come! --

35 " Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away."

Greg J. · Jul 25, 2018

JJTorres said:
" you're going to hell"

Forgive me if I over-generalize, but this is not something God tells anyone if it is true. You always have the opportunity to turn back to him. As such it would be a statement made for the purpose of pushing you to stop killing yourself spiritually and turn back to him so you will have Life. And if it were not true, God wouldn't say it at all.

JJTorres · Jul 25, 2018

Albion said:
No, your mind and memory were stimulated by the problem you have been thinking about a lot.

What about smelling oil and grape when the Word is read? Is that the mind and memory too?

Albion · Jul 25, 2018

JJTorres said:
What about smelling oil and grape when the Word is read? Is that the mind and memory too?

Could be, but it is hard to say more because we don't know all the background information.

FutureAndAHope · Jul 25, 2018

JJTorres said:
Yesterday i went looking for a new church because where i go now i feel the worship and preaching are kinda of light and short but primarily because almost everyone there dont friends with me or dont look me in the eye.(its a small church).

So i went to downtown and searched for 5 churches, only finding 3. But only one gave me a peace feeling but it may have to do with the structure of the building and facade that i love.
Anyway when i went back, along the way back the words of a song "I shall not fear" came to my mind (because i was fearful of my current situation) and i felt this feeling both physical and emotional of a "sad joy" like happy tears when you meet your long lost biological parent/son, see your baby son for first time in the hospital
Its like your so relieved from pain you cry of happyness.

Later on at my house i heard in my mind both:
"You have to give me your heart"
" you're going to hell".

At night while walking with my dad he said something mundane and i felt this very deep concern for his soul.

And lastly while talking about church.
I felt like interested in the spiritual and God.

WAS ALL THAT GOD?

BTW im a backslidden christian who thinks that maybe as lost his salvation.

Spiritual experiences are hard to decern. Both God and the devil can speak, for me to be able to tell which was which I would need direct revelation from God, unfortunately I don't have that.

However I can tell you from the bible that "while you search for God He will be found by you" ... while we desire to have salvation God is there for us. We just have to push into His direction, and away from the distractions, and sins that can hold us.

JJTorres · Jul 25, 2018

Albion said:
Could be, but it is hard to say more because we don't know all the background information.

What background information do you mean?

Albion · Jul 25, 2018

Almost everything other than that you thought you smelled those things.

JJTorres · Jul 26, 2018

Albion said:
Almost everything other than that you thought you smelled those things.

I didnt think these smells.

Albion · Jul 26, 2018

Perhaps you did, but what would that have to do with God? I mean...oil and grape?? It is not like a verification of some Bible passage or a vision of an angel or something else like that. What do YOU suppose the meaning to be?

JJTorres · Jul 26, 2018

Albion said:
Perhaps you did, but what would that have to do with God? I mean...oil and grape?? It is not like a verification of some Bible passage or a vision of an angel or something else like that. What do YOU suppose the meaning to be?

Well oil is the presence and the annointing of God and grape is the Lords blood l

Albion · Jul 26, 2018

See? You already have or had an explanation (which few other Christians would share, I am thinking) so that fact suggests that you were mentally into the idea in advance and, based on what you said in the OP, looking for a sign.

JJTorres · Jul 26, 2018

Albion said:
See? You already have or had an explanation (which few other Christians would share, I am thinking) so that fact suggests that you were mentally into the idea in advance and, based on what you said in the OP, looking for a sign.

I wasnt asking for the oil and grape meaning of them per se but the experience as a whole.

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