King of the norths embassy move.

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Daniel 11:45 KJV: And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
It will be right at the end of the 7 years.

He (the King of the West) is attacked by the King of the South, then King of the North, then the Kings of the East move against him as....

Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Daniel 11:45 is part of the gathering of the nations.

They are going to take the Jews in Jerusalem there hostage in a vain attempt to keep Jesus from executing judgement on them.
 
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Can you provide scripture for this comment, please.
Well, we have to figure out what's his kingom.

Daniel 11 starts talking about the person after he has become the beast because he is claiming to be God. That's the first thing we have to keep in mind.

The ten kings have given their kingdom to him, Revelation 17:17, at that point. And their kingdom is...

The kingdom of the ten kings is the fourth empire (kingdom), as it exists in the end times, Daniel 7:23-24,.

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Keep in mind in Daniel 7, it talks about his origination...he is not in the beast role when he first emerges. He comes from the people who destroyed the temple and city, Daniel 9:26.

In Daniel 8:9, he heads south and east into the middle east and Israel with a strong army. This will be 7 years before the battles in Daniel 11 he gets involved in after he becomes the beast. But Daniel 8:9 does indicate his kingdom of the ten kings does have a strong army, even before then. It is the EU.

To have all nations drawn into the middle east against Jerusalem - it is going to take more than the North, South, East. The United States and Canada at that time will probably align with the EU - as the West.

Our Kingdom we seek is the Kingdom of God.
 
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None of what you are saying is in chapeter 11.Chapter 11 of Daniel is almost entirely about the USA.The country located In North America.The events described in this chapter mainly take place in the middle east since the reappearance of Israrl.The events pertaining to king of the north(USA) started when Reagan was president and end with Trump.
I know you not going to understand this but good luck anyway.
 
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None of what you are saying is in chapeter 11.Chapter 11 of Daniel is almost entirely about the USA.The country located In North America.The events described in this chapter mainly take place in the middle east since the reappearance of Israrl.The events pertaining to king of the north(USA) started when Reagan was president and end with Trump.
I know you not going to understand this but good luck anyway.
Using that sort of logic, the King of the South - is the King of South America. Really?

Daniel 11, parts of it are now historic to us. The end times parts begin in Daniel 11:36. The king in that verse exalts himself above every god. So the person has become the beast, at that point.

He believes in tiers of gods, because it says he honour the god of forces - so the god of forces will be Satan's persona during that time.

At he rises to power, he will be into the occult - Kabbalah - getting help from Satan...

Daniel 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

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A lot of thought-to-be candidates, like U.S. presidents, Popes, Mahdi's can be eliminated because the person at one stage has to become the King of Israel thought to be messiah to the Jews - the Antichrist. He is not the Antichrist in Daniel 11, because in that chapter it picks up after the person has gone through the Antichrist stage and become the beast.

Daniel 7 - he becomes the leader of the fourth kingdom, which will have ten kings he is over - as the little horn. He does so by getting help from Satan.

Daniel 8 - he heads to the middle east and Israel, from the north and west, with a strong army.

Daniel 9 - he is the prince who shall come - from the north and west. Who the Jews will think is their messiah. And he will be anointed the King of Israel - by the false prophet. Making him the Antichrist. He confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant speech beginning the last 7 years. The Jews and the world thinking peace and safety of the messianic era.

Daniel 8 and 9 - in the middle of the 7 years, he transgresses the covenant, magnifying himself in his heart that he has achieve God-hood. He goes into the temple sits, claims to be God.

Ezekiel 28:1-10 - God has him killed for his audacious act.

Isaiah 14:18-20 - God in disdain for the person, brings him back alive. The strong delusion God sends in 2Thessalonians2. The person is then possessed by the unclean spirit coming out of the bottomless pit, which drives him, and empowers him. He becomes the beast

Daniel 11:36 - picks up near the end of the seven years, as God draws all nations into the middle east against Jerusalem.
 
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If it is possible to make the USA fit a description like kingdom of the north, just about everything else can be made to fit, right?
Is the USA in North America?
Is it in the northern hemisphere?

Even,better.
Is Donald Trump moving the US embassy to Jerusalem as I learned 15 years ago ?
 
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Is the USA in North America?
Is it in the northern hemisphere?

Even,better.
Is Donald Trump moving the US embassy to Jerusalem as I learned 15 years ago ?
Obviously you don't know it means king of a country directly north of Israel
Are you saying that 15 years ago you learned that Trump would move the embassy to Jerusalem ?
Got any proof of that ?
I heard on the news that it will happen Monday
 
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I understood 15 years ago that the US embassy would be moved to Jerusalem by the second president after GWBush who was president at the time I learned it.I learned from understanding this one verse .

Daniel 11:45 KJV: And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Fifteen years ago I watched this war when,I began understanding this chapter.
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Daniel 11:13 KJV: For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches.
 
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If it is possible to make the leader of the USA fit a description like king of the north, just about everything else can be made to fit, right?
No, nothing fits right now. The person in verse 36, called "he" and "him" in the rest of the chapter, has to claim to be God at the time.

The king called "he" is not even the King of the North, but the King of the West.

What does Daniel 11 have to do with Daniel anyway? None of the things in Daniel 11 would take place during Daniel's time. It ties in only because Daniel was told about the 70 weeks of years determined upon his people Israel and Jerusalem, in Daniel 9, until the most Holy - the messiah is anointed, begotten as the King of Israel (Psalms 2:6-7). The 70weeks of years end with war.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

The king in Daniel 11:36 has to be the prince who shall come person in Daniel 9:26 - from the people who destroy the city and sanctuary, the Romans. The only person of significance who fits the description is the little horn of Daniel 7 and 8, who comes out of the FOURTH empire - which is not the United States.

Trump is not the little horn person, who comes up among ten kings. The ten kings are not in place yet.
....but close.
 
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But I remember when it was widely said that the ten nations making up the European Common Market were the ten horns. And then the eleventh and twelfth nations joined and the claims were not heard anymore.
Oh, that was back at the time of Jack Van Impe was saying the Juan Carlos was the Antichrist because Spain became the 11th nation of the EU. Well it did not prove to be right.

The ten kings (leaders) to fit in the EU number of nations cannot be leaders of single individual nations. So it has to be that the EU, the executive branch will have to be restructured into ten zones, to balance the population representation. And one broadly elected leader over them - the little horn.
 
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So what was believed and predicted had to be retooled to "fit" after the prediction fell through. That's probably more challenging than to come up with a new theory, which, as we see, has happened.
The understanding of the end times gets clearer the closer we get. I will give you several theories that sounded good at the time, but did not pan out.

1. The Pope/Papacy is the Antichrist.
2. May 14, 2011 would be the latest date for the confirming of the covenant.
3. Israel is the fig tree in the fig tree parable
4. Javier Solana is the Antichrist.

My saying is stick with God and don't give up.
 
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The ten horns are where they should be.And the little horn is today where scripture says it is.It came from where scriptute says it came and resides where scripture says itwould.

The problem you have is its not what you thought it was nor what you have been taught it was.Same as the ten horns.They are not what man has taught you so you cant undersand who they are...

If you look in the pleasant land you will find a little country.A people which came from the north west and has become a very strong country though its little.

Daniel 8:9 KJV: And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

It is different than its neighbors .Very different.And in 1967 it had war with three of those.At that time it took control of the seven hilled city of Jerusalem .(The oldcity).

Daniel 7:24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.


So the little horn and the ten are exactly where they should be.The middle east.

Israel to celebrate its 70th independence day from great brittian.

Daniel 11:4 After he has arisen, his empire will be broken up and parceled out toward the four winds of heaven. It will not go to his descendants, nor will it have the power he exercised, because his empire will be uprooted and given to others.

 
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The ten horns are where they should be.And the little horn is today where scripture says it is.It came from where scriptute says it came and resides where scripture says itwould.

The problem you have is its not what you thought it was nor what you have been taught it was.Same as the ten horns.They are not what man has taught you so you cant undersand who they are...

If you look in the pleasant land you will find a little country.A people which came from the north west and has become a very strong country though its little.

Daniel 8:9 KJV: And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

It is different than its neighbors .Very different.And in 1967 it had war with three of those.At that time it took control of the seven hilled city of Jerusalem .(The oldcity).

Daniel 7:24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.


So the little horn and the ten are exactly where they should be.The middle east.

Israel to celebrate its 70th independence day from great brittian.

Daniel 11:4 After he has arisen, his empire will be broken up and parceled out toward the four winds of heaven. It will not go to his descendants, nor will it have the power he exercised, because his empire will be uprooted and given to others.

What are the nation states in blue at minute 1:48 supposed to represent?
 
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What are the nation states in blue at minute 1:48 supposed to represent?

Decolinazation of French and English colonies.When the horns of the beast came up.That is when the little horn (Israel)came up among them.

So Im not looking for the little horn to appear.It already has.Im now waiting for the king of the north to give the little horn a host.

Daniel 8:12 KJV: And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

Im thinking Trump will offer Israel the united nations peace keeping force to oversee the oldcity of Jerusalem.
We will see what millitary it is soon though.And Im expecting the Israeli conscription to be abolished at that time.

Trump is said to present his peace plan soon after israels independence day.
 
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