Former satanist warns Christians not to celebrate halloween

salt-n-light · Oct 29, 2017

Sketcher said:
Why? That sounds like a bit of a reach.

Not really.

There's plenty of things we do without awareness. Or with awareness, but is justified with good intentions. Every man have to work out their own salvation. But its undeniable that God gets no glory from us participating in Halloween.

Sketcher · Oct 29, 2017

Mskriskris said:
Not really.

There's plenty of things we do without awareness. Or with awareness, but is justified with good intentions. Every man have to work out their own salvation. But its undeniable that God gets no glory from us participating in Halloween.

Zero? God gets zero glory from including a Gospel tract with Halloween candy?

salt-n-light · Oct 29, 2017

Sketcher said:
Zero? God gets zero glory from including a Gospel tract with Halloween candy?

If your heart is to participate in it, then God gets zero glory. Even with the tract and candy.

Kenny'sID · Oct 29, 2017

Just watched a video on the Druids original version of Bobbing for Apples

...anyone game?

Sketcher · Oct 29, 2017

Mskriskris said:
If your heart is to participate in it, then God gets zero glory. Even with the tract and candy.

The hearts of people who do that are not likely to be in participating in witchcraft, but to be spreading God's light. I'm also reminded of Philippians 1:12-18 even if their hearts slip a little bit into enjoying passing out candy and tracts for the sake of passing out candy and tracts or seeing how people are dressed up this year.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 29, 2017

Sketcher said:
So what you are saying is that if a kid dresses up like Batman on or around Oct 31, that he and his parents are really saying that they are endorsing acts of sorcery?

Yes, because they are not objecting to the display of the sin of witchcraft, the sin of murder, the sin of fear of evil things, etc.

Imagine if there was a inappropriate content day? What would be the difference?

Dkh587 · Oct 29, 2017

Sketcher said:
Zero? God gets zero glory from including a Gospel tract with Halloween candy?

Handing out candy on Halloween with gospel tracts does not glorify God, IMO.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 29, 2017

In other words, imagine what sin you hate the most and imagine people play acting that sin on a holiday for just mere fun along with some candy and a supposed Christian label of endorsement slapped upon it.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 29, 2017

Dkh587 said:
Handing out candy on Halloween with gospel tracts does not glorify God, IMO.

Correct; Because we are to be holy and separate from the dark things of this world.

salt-n-light · Oct 29, 2017

Sketcher said:
The hearts of people who do that are not likely to be in participating in witchcraft, but to be spreading God's light. I'm also reminded of Philippians 1:12-18 even if their hearts slip a little bit into enjoying passing out candy and tracts for the sake of passing out candy and tracts or seeing how people are dressed up this year.

Obedience is better than sacrifice.

I wrestled with that question too, this year, because I saw an opportunity to witness. But I examined myself against the Word, and I saw that really I wanted some sort of excuse for my flesh to be pleased. I wanted to feel pleased in doing missions for God more than adhere to what God really want me to do.I wanted to somehow break the ice and awkwardness that I would give to someone who is finding delight in their ways, and find some sort of middle ground. In that light, I was no more right than someone who was dressing up for Halloween. Because my heart wanted the glory of sacrificing and works, than the humility of obedience and being a bearer of fruit.

Again, everyone has to work out their own salvation.

Sketcher · Oct 29, 2017

Jason0047 said:
Yes, because they are not objecting to the display of the sin of witchcraft, the sin of murder, the sin of fear of evil things, etc.

Excuse me? Parents tend to have limits on what they will allow their children to dress up as for a reason. That reason being they object to having their kids display certain things. I know that I had to get my parents' permission to dress up as whatever I would pick that year, and there were some years when my parents did not give that permission, and I had to pick something else.

Jason0047 said:
Imagine if there was a inappropriate content day? What would be the difference?

I'm not sure what you mean by "inappropriate content day."

Dkh587 said:
Handing out candy on Halloween with gospel tracts does not glorify God, IMO.

If God got glory out of people preaching the Gospel out of false motives (Philippians 1:12-18), why not Gospel tracts on a day when many people will be coming to your doorstep?

edmund_fitzgerald · Oct 29, 2017

Seems to me that Hallowe'en is the ultimate "in your face" to the forces of darkness: telling those forces in no uncertain terms that we're confident that you're going to lose ultimately such that we can make fun of you with impunity.

Sketcher · Oct 29, 2017

Mskriskris said:
Obedience is better than sacrifice.

I wrestled with that question too, this year, because I saw an opportunity to witness. But I examined myself against the Word, and I saw that really I wanted some sort of excuse for my flesh to be pleased. I wanted to feel pleased in doing missions for God more than adhere to what God really want me to do. In that light, I was no more right than someone who was dressing up for Halloween. Because my heart wanted the glory of sacrificing and works, than of obedience and being a bearer of fruit.

Again, everyone has to work out their own salvation.

So it sounds like God was specifically calling you away from that - what about Christians who haven't received that calling?

salt-n-light · Oct 29, 2017

Sketcher said:
So it sounds like God was specifically calling you away from that - what about Christians who haven't received that calling?

It's not a special calling. I simply talked to God, asked Him questions and voiced out my concerns, read the Word, and adhere to what He had to say about with guidance of the Holy Spirit. I asked for clarity, and He gave it to me. It's not an appealing answer, but God is helping me overcome that itch this Halloween. All Christians have access to that, so I can't speak on why exactly they haven't received it.

Sketcher · Oct 29, 2017

Mskriskris said:
It's not a special calling. I simply read the Word, and adhere to what He had already said with guidance of the Holy Spirit. I asked for clarity, and He gave it to me. It wasn't an appealing answer, but God is helping me overcome that itch this Halloween. All Christians have access to that, so I can't speak on why exactly they haven't received it.

Which passages specifically?

NeedyFollower · Oct 29, 2017

WilliamBo said:
Former Satanist Warns Christians about Celebrating Halloween

I do not celebrate Halloween but grew up in the tradition as most every neighbor I knew also did. Of course my favorite holiday was christmas. I loved the pagentry , the christmas parties , the church plays where my daughters dressed up as angels . The " church " decorated with poinsettas and wreaths ..The music and santa ...Only one problem ..I did not love Christ . The world spent over a trillion dollars on Christmas last year and the merchants of the world are hoping for a good black friday where they will hopefully become profitable ( in the black ) . Halloween is at least an honest holiday in that it does not pretend to be about Christ . Funny how the godless and godly both come together for " christmas. " The scribes and pharasees were not satanist but they did stand in the way of TRUTH . Please do truth . Satan is subtle and does his worst damage dressed as " a christian " ..not as a devil worshipper nor an atheist. One should read Brian Moynihan's " Faith , the History of Christianity .. Many shall come to me in that day saying " Lord ..didn't I do xyz in YOUR name ...." Do not be deceived by old wives tales but exercise your self unto Godliness . Halloween a threat to Christians ? No , Christians not following the truth are a threat Christians.

fhansen · Oct 29, 2017

WilliamBo said:
Former Satanist Warns Christians about Celebrating Halloween

Tetra · Oct 29, 2017

Can't wait for Halloween every year!!

Easily one of my favorite holidays.

salt-n-light · Oct 29, 2017

Sketcher said:
Which passages specifically?

These passages are not specifically, " Don't celebrate Halloween", but these passages over time convicted me of my heart and my view on Halloween.I'm pretty sure there's plenty of scriptures that directly addresses witchcraft and such things anyways. I hope they are a blessing for you too.

Not partaking in things unfruitful-Ephesians 5:1-20
Not being a stumbling-block- Romans 14; this also help me not to have a condemning heart on those who choose to, but rather pray for them.
Obedience better than sacrifice- Acts 16- When Paul and Silas, although had good intentions on their missions to where they wanted to go( Asia, etc.), chose to be adhere what God said, act in obedience, and avoid going to those places. Because of that, their light was spread beyond those places. It was my worry that I was wasting opportunity, but this passage showed me that its obedience that God gets glory in.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 29, 2017

Sketcher said:
Excuse me? Parents tend to have limits on what they will allow their children to dress up as for a reason. That reason being they object to having their kids display certain things. I know that I had to get my parents' permission to dress up as whatever I would pick that year, and there were some years when my parents did not give that permission, and I had to pick something else.

It doesn't matter what their parents choose to let their kids dress up as. They are going to be joining in on the sin filled display of others. Halloween includes witches, ghosts, goblins, the devil, axe murderers, and the walking dead. That would be like allowing your kids to join on inappropriate content day and yet tell them to not dress up as a inappropriate content star but dress up as a super model instead. The idea is not to partake in such a holiday because it glorifiies sin and evil.

You said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "inappropriate content day."

Similar to Halloween. It would be a day where adults dress up as certain inappropriate content characters (face masks that look like certain inappropriate content stars) and they would join nude parties and drink and or they would wear a nude outfit and collect candy and inappropriate content at people's doors. Imagine if kids started to join in but they dressed up as super models or something more mild. Would that be a good thing? No. It would be the celebration of the display of sin even if those silly kids were mild in their celebration of it. It is still wrong because they are partaking in an evil holiday that celebrates sin (Just as Halloween celebrates sin with the display of the sins of witchcraft, murder, fear of evil things, etc.).

You said:
If God got glory out of people preaching the Gospel out of false motives (Philippians 1:12-18), why not Gospel tracts on a day when many people will be coming to your doorstep?

You can give out tracts in the neighborhood or to kids without having to resort to partaking in a day that celebrates evil and darkness.

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