Bless you, I hope you have repented and saw the light that there are no demons, the man simply had a malady.
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We will judge the Angels. They led the Jews before Christ. Once Christ came, man didn't need angels. Man is above the Angels now.
Paul said even if an Angel spoke from heaven (against his gospel) that they would be cursed. The OT used Angels, and the Hebrew Gospel (Matthew) mentions them more than all others.
Galatians:
7 a]">[a]Which is not another Gospel, save that there be some which trouble you, and intend to b]">[b]pervert the Gospel of Christ.
8 But though that we, or an Angel from heaven preach unto you otherwise than that which we have preached unto you, let him be c]">[c]accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach unto you otherwise than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Paul says this when the emerging catholic orthodox religion was being established. He uses all of Galatians to refute the Law and circumcision towards the Gentiles.
Paul said even if an Angel spoke from heaven (against his gospel) that they would be cursed. The OT used Angels, and the Hebrew Gospel (Matthew) mentions them more than all others.
Galatians:
7 a]">[a]Which is not another Gospel, save that there be some which trouble you, and intend to b]">[b]pervert the Gospel of Christ.
8 But though that we, or an Angel from heaven preach unto you otherwise than that which we have preached unto you, let him be c]">[c]accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach unto you otherwise than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Paul says this when the emerging catholic orthodox religion was being established. He uses all of Galatians to refute the Law and circumcision towards the Gentiles.
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That's not what drug users say.
Got any other support for that?
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I don't think that's necessarily a choice or action of the angel or demon, but whether the Holy Spirit gives you sense of them...if/when it's the Lord's will for it at that moment.
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Humans can be capable of incredible violence, but it seems to me that seldom are humans capable of mass, sustained evil in many people for a great deal of time. When I see that occur, I'm not surprised to find that these people are actually in conscious communion with evil spirits.
Take ISIS, for instance. Let's not forget that these are very religious people. We know from informants that they pray consistently and consciously for the power and will to do their evil. I've no doubt that evil spirits are empowered by this.
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Back in the latter 80s, I was stationed in DC. The demonic activity in Washington DC was palpable--it was like entering a fog bank as you drove across the Beltway into the city. It was reflected in the people on the roads, on the streets.
This was when there was a person murdered every day (two on Saturdays) in the city, which, at only 700,000, isn't particularly huge. We lived on Bolling AFB, which is in the most crime-ridden section of the city. There was a military wife who was shot walking out of the Base Exchange (department store) by (determined ballistically) a stray round from a drug battle in a housing area overlooking the base half a mile away. I personally was mugged at gunpoint not far outside the gate twice in a 72-hour period.
This was also a period of time for a peak closeness to the Lord for my wife and I. If you read any of my testimonies of powerful spiritual experiences of many kinds in these forums, without a doubt it was while we were in DC.
I moved to DC having spent many years being oppressed by a demon. By "oppressed" I mean that a demon had been manipulating physical circumstances around me to keep me harassed and spiritually struggling. But during this period of time in DC, having experiences with the Lord such as I'd never had before, I became aware that I was being harassed and not just struggling with my own flesh.
That made me angry, and I finally one evening, standing at the sink of my bathroom, I invoked the name of the Lord: "I am saved by the blood of Jesus--let me go!" (My wife said she wondered who I was growling at.)
And that was that. It was like a glass rod breaking. It was as though I'd been bent over all my life and could suddenly stand erect.
That was a relief that went on, but a few weeks later I was asleep, peacefully. Then I heard a voice like a Basic Training drill sergeant at O-dark-thirty: "Ralph! Wake up! Now!"
I woke up and discerned in the darkness a figure of a person leaning over me. I wasn't alarmed, but surprised. When I raised up on an elbow, the person took a step back. I peered at it, trying to recognize who it was.
It appeared to be a woman, blonde, with long hair over the right front of her chest in a thick braid down to her waist. She wore black, like leather, with silver zippers.
As I stared at her face, at first she seemed to be lovely, but as I looked harder the flesh began to become translucent and began to reveal something ugly beneath.
At that point I realized, this was that demon, returning to check out the situation. I barked, "In the name of Jesus, get out!"
The figure took another step backward, then vanished.
I lay there on my elbow for a minute thinking what a wild dream that must have been. Then my wife touched me on the arm and said, "Did you hear that too?"
She said she had been awakened in the night by a sound like a swarm of metallic bees. She said the sound seemed to move around the room for a minute, then stopped, hovering over my head. She had been about to call on Jesus herself when she saw me lean up and heard do it--then the sound vanished.
This was when there was a person murdered every day (two on Saturdays) in the city, which, at only 700,000, isn't particularly huge. We lived on Bolling AFB, which is in the most crime-ridden section of the city. There was a military wife who was shot walking out of the Base Exchange (department store) by (determined ballistically) a stray round from a drug battle in a housing area overlooking the base half a mile away. I personally was mugged at gunpoint not far outside the gate twice in a 72-hour period.
This was also a period of time for a peak closeness to the Lord for my wife and I. If you read any of my testimonies of powerful spiritual experiences of many kinds in these forums, without a doubt it was while we were in DC.
I moved to DC having spent many years being oppressed by a demon. By "oppressed" I mean that a demon had been manipulating physical circumstances around me to keep me harassed and spiritually struggling. But during this period of time in DC, having experiences with the Lord such as I'd never had before, I became aware that I was being harassed and not just struggling with my own flesh.
That made me angry, and I finally one evening, standing at the sink of my bathroom, I invoked the name of the Lord: "I am saved by the blood of Jesus--let me go!" (My wife said she wondered who I was growling at.)
And that was that. It was like a glass rod breaking. It was as though I'd been bent over all my life and could suddenly stand erect.
That was a relief that went on, but a few weeks later I was asleep, peacefully. Then I heard a voice like a Basic Training drill sergeant at O-dark-thirty: "Ralph! Wake up! Now!"
I woke up and discerned in the darkness a figure of a person leaning over me. I wasn't alarmed, but surprised. When I raised up on an elbow, the person took a step back. I peered at it, trying to recognize who it was.
It appeared to be a woman, blonde, with long hair over the right front of her chest in a thick braid down to her waist. She wore black, like leather, with silver zippers.
As I stared at her face, at first she seemed to be lovely, but as I looked harder the flesh began to become translucent and began to reveal something ugly beneath.
At that point I realized, this was that demon, returning to check out the situation. I barked, "In the name of Jesus, get out!"
The figure took another step backward, then vanished.
I lay there on my elbow for a minute thinking what a wild dream that must have been. Then my wife touched me on the arm and said, "Did you hear that too?"
She said she had been awakened in the night by a sound like a swarm of metallic bees. She said the sound seemed to move around the room for a minute, then stopped, hovering over my head. She had been about to call on Jesus herself when she saw me lean up and heard do it--then the sound vanished.
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That's not what that verse says. That verse says, essentially, the same thing as Paul said to the Colossians:
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
And yet that same Paul also said:
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
And James said:
You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that--and shudder.
And Jesus said:
Then the unclean spirit finds seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they all enter the person and live there. And so that person is worse off than before.
And yet demons said to Jesus:
'What do you want with us, Son of God?' they shouted. 'Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?'
The fact that demons are under the domination of the Lord does not argue against their existence.
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Maybe one
Isaiah 14:13-14
13 And thou saidst in thy heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; and I will sit upon the mount of congregation, in the uttermost parts of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.
Maybe two:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:
At least one:
“Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you” (James 4:7-8)
Plus Ozzy Ozborn:
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Indeed. I agree with the explanation of your exegesis. It still doesn't explain why and where evil still is sourced from. Although, I am inclined to agree with the passages, they may be out of line with the context. For example, Matthew 28, in my opinion, confirms that power was transferred from the Father to the Son over all creation. I could be wrong here so I will study further.
Please explain the following passages, perhaps I am mistaken.
1 John 5:19" We know that we are from God the whole world lies in the power of the evil one."
2 Timothy 2:26 "and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will."
John 12:31 "Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out."
Thanks.
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I’m not sure if I am reading this correctly, are you just making a statement that some see evil as good (which I would agree with), or are you implying that evil is all subjective depending on your personal perspective (which I would disagree with)?
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It's funny how one little word can change the meaning of something..
It is not "money" that is the root of all evil... although this is stated all the time.
It is "THE LOVE" of money that is the root of all evil.
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He-man, if you are going to champion obscure theology that's not even regarded as "Christian" in any traditional sense of the word, you have a responsibility to provide more than just short, vague, poorly punctuated responses.
What does the above post mean? Are you saying the demons are lunatics? I'm presuming (though not at all certain) you mean that lunatics who are out of their minds are possessed by demons. But are you not contradicting your own position?
Please be considerate enough to take a few moments and explain your positions clearly, so we're not all sitting here incessantly having to try and figure out what's in your head.
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