Question: Will babies and children of the Lost be Raptured

Major1 said:

WHAT? I am not judging anyone. I just asked a question!

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disciple1 said:

James chapter 4 verse 12
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?

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disciple1 said:

James chapter 4 verse 12
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy.

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I didn't want to not quote the whole verse, that's why it had but who are you to judge your neighbor.

I wasn't saying you were judging.

The last two paragraphs of your reply are not logical and cannot be found in the Holy Bible. This theory is simply the imagination of sinful man. This theory was actually advanced by that group of evil men who hate GOD and His true people and set about to spread confusion. Their title - the jesuits.

Major1 said:

I mean the event described in the Scriptures.

1 Thessalonians 4:17...............
Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 .......................
"For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first and then who remain shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye"..

1 Corinthians 15:52 ............................
"In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed".

The most popularly taught view among Christian faiths is known as the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, or "Pre-Trib" theory. Those who accept this theory believe the Rapture will happen just before the tribulation period, at the beginning of the seventieth week of Daniel.

The Rapture will usher in the final seven years of this age. True followers of Jesus Christ will be transformed into their spiritual bodies in the Rapture and taken from the Earth to be in Heaven with God. Non-believers will be left behind to face severe tribulation as the antichrist prepares to take his place as the Beast half way through the seven year period.

According to this view, non-believers will still come to accept Christ, in spite of the Church's absence during this time, however, these believers will endure extreme persecusion including death.

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Ah.... scriptures about the Resurrection of the saints.

Mafeking said:

The last two paragraphs of your reply are not logical and cannot be found in the Holy Bible. This theory is simply the imagination of sinful man. This theory was actually advanced by that group of evil men who hate GOD and His true people and set about to spread confusion. Their title - the jesuits.

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In the middle 1820’s a religious environment began to be established among a few Christians in London, England which proved to be the catalyst from which the doctrine of the Rapture emerged. Expectations of the soon coming of our Lord were being voiced. This was no new thing, but what was unusual was the teaching by a Presbyterian minister named Edward Irving that there had to be a restoration of the spiritual gifts mentioned in 1 Corinthians chapters 12–14 just before Christ’s Second Advent. To Irving, the time had come for those spiritual manifestations to occur. Among the expected gifts was the renewal of speaking in tongues and of prophetic utterances motivated by the spirit.
What does this have to do with the origin of the Rapture doctrine? Look at what happened in the year 1830 — two years before Irving’s dismissal from the Presbyterian Church. In that year a revival of the “gifts” began to be manifested among some people living in the lowlands of Scotland. They experienced what they called the outpouring of the Spirit. It was accompanied with speaking in “tongues” and other charismatic phenomena. Irving preached that these things must occur and now they were.

On one particular evening, the power of the Holy Spirit was said to have rested on a Miss Margaret Macdonald while she was ill at home. She was dangerously sick and thought she was dying. In spite of this (or perhaps because she is supposed to have come under the “power” of the spirit) for several successive hours she experienced manifestations of “mingled prophecy and vision.” She found her mind in an altered state and began to experience considerable visionary activity.

The message she received during this prophetic vision convinced her that Christ was going to appear in two stages at His Second Advent, and not a single occasion as most all people formerly believed. The spirit emanation revealed that Christ would first come in glory to those who look for Him and again later in a final stage when every eye would see Him. This visionary experience of Miss Macdonald represented the prime source of the modern Rapture doctrine as the historical evidence compiled by Mr. MacPherson reveals.
Chapter 17: The Rapture Theory - Its Surprising Origin

Major1 said:

What happens to the babies and young children when the Rapture takes place?

The parents are lost and are left, that we know. However, what about the babies of the lost?
Will they be left to go through the tribulation, and most probably die in the chaos?

Will they be Raptured as well as believers in Christ even though they have not reached the age of accountability?

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You can see an example of a baby dying and declared to be going to heaven by scripture.
2 Samuel 12:15b-23
David's Child Dies
And the Lord afflicted the child that Uriah's wife bore to David, and he became sick. 16 David therefore sought God on behalf of the child. And David fasted and went in and lay all night on the ground. 17 And the elders of his house stood beside him, to raise him from the ground, but he would not, nor did he eat food with them. 18 On the seventh day the child died. And the servants of David were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they said, “Behold, while the child was yet alive, we spoke to him, and he did not listen to us. How then can we say to him the child is dead? He may do himself some harm.” 19 But when David saw that his servants were whispering together, David understood that the child was dead. And David said to his servants, “Is the child dead?” They said, “He is dead.” 20 Then David arose from the earth and washed and anointed himself and changed his clothes. And he went into the house of the Lord and worshiped. He then went to his own house. And when he asked, they set food before him, and he ate. 21 Then his servants said to him, “What is this thing that you have done? You fasted and wept for the child while he was alive; but when the child died, you arose and ate food.” 22 He said, “While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept, for I said, ‘Who knows whether the Lord will be gracious to me, that the child may live?’ 23 But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.”

Major1 said:

What happens to the babies and young children when the Rapture takes place?

The parents are lost and are left, that we know. However, what about the babies of the lost?
Will they be left to go through the tribulation, and most probably die in the chaos?

Will they be Raptured as well as believers in Christ even though they have not reached the age of accountability?

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At the ressurection, all things are made new. The old order of things has passed away. There will be no more day or night, cold or heat.... All souls who are written in the Lambs book of life will be there in Glory. The others will die. The rest of the DEAD did not come to life until the thousand years had ended.

God knows who he has chosen. In righteousness God doth Judge and make war.

Do all babies go to heaven? I dont know. God knows their hearts and will have mercy on whom he has mercy. All children are born into corruption and imperfection. Nothing imperfect shall ever enter into the kingdom of God. So No babies ever enter heaven unless God chooses to first make them perfect. Does he do this? I dont know, maybe, but if he does or doesnt, it is in righteousness. Any being who enters will no longer be a baby. They will be transformed into their eternally perfected state. They will be in their prime so to speak, not babies, not dependent upon earthly parents

The rapture is the last day, the last trumpet. Read all passages that refer to the day of the Lord. They are all the same and they speak of one event. Read Zechariah 14. This is a prophecy of the day of the Lord. God coming with the clouds with all of his holy ones with him. This same event is described in other passages where he, at that time gathers his elect from the four winds etc...

There is no pretribulation rapture. There is only the second coming and after that, all things made new. Read the 7th Trumpet in revelations, the accounts in Matthew, Peter, Thessalonians, Jeremiah and Hebrews (concerning the heavenly Jeruselem)

Pre Tribulation rapture is a doctrine entirely based in speculation and conjecture.

No matter the rapture perspective one holds, babies and children go to heaven (Matt 18 and 19).

nonaeroterraqueous said:

Nope. Lot wasn't saved for being a good guy, because he certainly wasn't.

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2 Peter 2:7 and if He rescued Lot, a righteous man distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless
2 Peter 2:8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)

Beorh said:

The so-called "Rapture" is not founded in Holy Scripture. .

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The wise virgins with oil shall be taken to the Feast of the Lamb but the foolish will be left behind in the Grief Tribulation.

Major1 said:

Correct. That is what the Rapture is all about.

The question has never really been "IF" there is a Rapture, but "When" does it happen is the real question.

Before the Tribulation, mid-tribulation or after the tribulation. There will be a resurrection, in fact TWO of them. One for the saved and one for the lost.

I personally believe that the pre-tribulation Rapture (Resurrection) is the one that allows all of the prophetic Scriptures to fit perfectly together.

What you believe is entirely up to you.

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If there is only one Resurrection, which I believe is true, then how will those who are saved and die, during your tribulation ever get resurrected from the dead?

Sea Horse said:

same lack of word age of accountability does not mean that doctrine of accountability is not in the bible .

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In the bible that is never assigned an age. (or even a range)