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Featured Question: Will babies and children of the Lost be Raptured

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Major1, Aug 31, 2017.

  1. Major1

    Major1 Well-Known Member

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    What happens to the babies and young children when the Rapture takes place?

    The parents are lost and are left, that we know. However, what about the babies of the lost?
    Will they be left to go through the tribulation, and most probably die in the chaos?

    Will they be Raptured as well as believers in Christ even though they have not reached the age of accountability?
     
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  2. Dave-W

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    First off - there is no biblical support for an "age of accountability." It is a hoax.

    Secondly - the fate of children who are innocent but have not taken on the New covenant is UNDEFINED in scripture - we just do not know one way or the other.
     
  3. Eryk

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    Tim LaHaye and others have taught that infants and children will be in the Rapture.

    Age of accountability and infant salvation:

    Where do I find the age of accountability in the Bible? What happens to babies and young children when they die?

    Charles Spurgeon on Infant Salvation

    John Piper: What happens to infants who die?

    The point for us is that even though we human beings are under the penalty of everlasting judgment and death because of the fall of our race into sin and the sinful nature that we all have, nevertheless God only executes this judgment on those who have the natural capacity to see his glory and understand his will, and refuse to embrace it as their treasure.

    Infants, I believe, do not yet have that capacity; and therefore, in God's inscrutable way, he brings them under the forgiving blood of his Son.

    It is important to emphasize that, in our view, God is not saving infants because they are innocent. They are not innocent, but guilty. He is saving them because, although they are sinful, in his mercy he desires that compassion be exercised upon those who are sinful and yet lack the capacity to grasp the truth revealed about Him in nature and to the human heart.
    This has relevance not only for soteriology and eschatology, but also in pastoral care for parents who have lost a child.
     
  4. Sea Horse

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    Yes babies at rapture will be gone from earth , this is what will unite all these godless people , because on the same day in every country childrens will be missing .

    Antichrist could lie that it was plague like in Egypt and since there is written in bible that one will be taken and one left , he will lie to them about that aswell and ask them to take his mark so maybe they will not be gone aswell.

    Also there will be children born in tribulation , i don't know what will happen to them , if parents give it mark then i don't know if this child will go to hell or not , probably not because it was given to child not taken by it as clear decision. Anyway if you ask if children will be dying in tribulation , yes these who are born after rapture will die , same with half of world population ( in billions ) .
     
  5. nonaeroterraqueous

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    Tim LaHaye also counseled a woman to have an abortion, and not out of medical necessity, either. I suppose he thought she was granting the baby an unconditional free ride to Heaven. This, of course, brings up the next logical problem to the whole age of accountability artifact.

    I'm with Dave-W. The matter is undefined. I think that because none of us are ignorant babes that none of us are told the answer. If we were told the answer and understood it, then we would not be ignorant babes, and it would not apply to us, etc. Because it doesn't apply to us, then it's not really any of our business what happens between another soul and God, though we'd very much like to know. It is only ours to trust God.
     
  6. dogs4thewin

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    I do not by any means claim to be right on this without a doubt, but what about when they were in the desert all died that had reached the age of 20.
     
  7. nonaeroterraqueous

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    Proving the rapture is already a monumental task. Proving that all children go up in it is the product of someone's fretful imagination. It's a nice idea, but the Bible doesn't even begin to hint at it. Naturally...

    ...this statement is an elaborate speculation based on a speculative premise, for which there is no clear scripture (Don't take that personally. Lots of people think this way). If we were to stick to actual scripture, then we could not say any of this. If we hold to any of this, then we build our hopes on a wild guess based on a loosely educated guess based on the barest of evidence. It may even be true, but it's not sure enough to warrant claiming it so strongly on an open forum.
     
  8. Dave-W

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    Totally different situation. Salvation under the Mosaic covenant was very different than Salvation under the New Covenant.
     
  9. Sea Horse

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    If you want to actually stick to scripture then "rapture" is not in bible so we would have to close this post :C
    We know kids go to heaven based on David who had Holy Spirit and told us that his son will be in heaven , he was praying untill he died then he just stopped and moved on , because he knew that he did not lose him .
     
  10. Eryk

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    Source?
     
  11. Major1

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    I do not know either. I only asked the question because I can not find anything to confirm what happens, one way or the other.

    There is an example given in David where his baby born from the adulterous affair with Bathsheba died. David said that he would go to be with the baby since the baby could not be with him.

    Personally, I believe in my own heart that all the children are under the blood of Jesus then just as are those today who are mentally ill or die as babies before reaching the age of accountability.
     
  12. Major1

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    Would the same apply to the Trinity????

    Are you familiar with the process of "Implied Truth"?

    Wouldn't that apply to both the Rapture and the Trinity?
     
  13. Sea Horse

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    Yea that what i meant , lack of word trinity does not mean that trinity does not exist , same lack of word age of accountability does not mean that doctrine of accountability is not in the bible .
     
  14. Another Lazarus

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    All children will go with their parents as did the Noah's children were justified because of him. other children of unbelievers destroyed by the FLOOD.
     
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    /nvm
     
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    /nvm
     
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    /nvm
     
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  18. Eryk

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    He mentioned it in a book that he wrote called The Act of Marriage (1981). I've been a little bent about it ever since.
     
  20. nonaeroterraqueous

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    When I first read this I didn't think much of it. About an hour later, I was driving down the road and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I believe you just made an unassailable point that ends not only this discussion, but maybe a few others, also.

    The fact is, Noah's Ark was not loaded with millions of children by virtue of their being under the age of accountability. That says it all. Regardless of if or when the rapture takes place, we already know where God stands on the matter, because we know exactly what he did the last time. Children and babies will not be raptured simply because they're young. It goes even further, too. Someone once told me that a person's views of the end times for the world says a lot about their views of the end times of an individual human life. There always was that age-old question of what happens to babies and children who die. Noah's Ark and the Great Flood say it all. God didn't spare, and likely won't spare anyone from his wrath simply by virtue of their age. As far as I know, he never did it anywhere in the Bible. He did, however, spare or judge based on familial relationships, which is what you said. There's a ton of evidence for that.

    That's some pretty tough stuff.
     
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