Recent Bill Nye Hatred...

Kenny'sID said:

Then explain it, tell me where my comments were not viable...walk, don't just talk.

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Have to go eat something, but I will reply when I come back...

KCfromNC said:

Yep - it is a falsehood made up by creationists. There's no reason to believe the copious amount of transitional fossils we do have is any less than it should be.

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Examples?

HereIStand said:

Science is far from objective, and can't be isolated to what the senses can detect.

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I think you are just disagreeing with me for the sake of disagreeing with me.
How is quanitifying the predictability of results not objective? And honestly, how does science worth with anything which eventually isn't sense detected?

[quoteTheology includes information that the senses can detect.[/quote]

No, that would fit within philosophy which shapes a particular philosophy.

Some philosophy can provide a framework for better understanding theology, but it doesn't provide the meaning of it.

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You can't really derive a theology without a philosophy.

Kenny'sID said:

I already mentioned, all life would have to be a transitional Fossil with your way of thinking, hence missing links, if there were such a thing.

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No, as I attempted to explain at midnight last night, transitional fossils are essentially fossils of species undergoing speciation because they have characteristics of both the ancestral species and the descendant. They may or may not be a subspecies because subspecies is more about location and behavior than genetics.

Kenny'sID said:

Actually, it really is

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I just explained to you how this is not the case. Rather than refuting my arguments, you simply said it really is and then totally deleted everything else I said when replying to me.

I want you to prove evolution.

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I just defined what evolution is. I explained the fact you aren't asking me to prove evolution, rather, your understanding of evolution is so convulated that you use it as a catch-all term for all kinds of scientific areas you don't like.

I then pointed out many of those areas and the ways they can be scientifically verified.

Again, you just deleted everything I wrote and just repeated yourself by saying you want me to prove evolution.

It is your opinion that is proof of conventional evolution, however, it falls short for many of us.

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It is my opinion... that is proof of convetional evolution... however, it falls short.... for many.. of us.

What?

I remember IRC, the dinosaur of what later became chatrooms and I don't think those really exist anymore. People developed scripts, programs to respond to comments people make that had the power to actually convince them they were talking to someone.

TX_Matt said:

No, as I attempted to explain at midnight last night, transitional fossils are essentially fossils of species undergoing speciation because they have characteristics of both the ancestral species and the descendant. They may or may not be a subspecies because subspecies is more about location and behavior than genetics.

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While what you are describing cannot be proven to be any more than one of a same species who naturally have characteristics of each other, and always will.

Kenny'sID said:

Then explain it, tell me where my comments were not viable...walk, don't just talk.

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Well, not sure I can explain it better that some excellent scientists on here have already done. Do you have something specific in mind..?

Kenny'sID said:

While what you are describing cannot be proven to be any more than one of a same species who naturally have characteristics of each other, and always will.

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Kenny, hope I'm wrong, but that sounds like you're willfully ignorant of established science...

ximmix said:

Well, not sure I can explain it better that some excellent scientists on here have already done. Do you have something specific in mind..?

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Start with telling me why my comments were wrong, seems a good place anyway. Those comments I requested a few times be proven non viable, and I only say that to be clear on what comments I'm referring to.

ximmix said:

Kenny, hope I'm wrong, but that sounds like you're willfully ignorant of established science...

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You keep saying these things but with no detail...show me why.

Kenny'sID said:

Start with telling me why my comments were wrong, seems a good place anyway. Those comments I requested a few times be proven non viable, and I only say that to be clear on what comments I'm referring to.

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Ok, not going back to search for your comments. Can you summarize your key points?

Greyy said:

I just explained to you how this is not the case. Rather than refuting my arguments, you simply said it really is and then totally deleted everything else I said when replying to me.

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Honestly, I've explained it so many times before, I just get tired of it. You see a hint of my reasoning on "opinions" even in the post you just replied to, so there you go. Just keep reading, I have and will comment on it often, so you if what I touched on already didn't make my point, should get an idea of my way of thinking...agree or not.

Greyy said:

I just defined what evolution is. I explained the fact you aren't asking me to prove evolution, rather, your understanding of evolution is so convulated that you use it as a catch-all term for all kinds of scientific areas you don't like.

I then pointed out many of those areas and the ways they can be scientifically verified.

Again, you just deleted everything I wrote and just repeated yourself by saying you want me to prove evolution.

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No offense, but I can define how the moon is made from Cheese, but that doesn't make it so. You have not proven evolution. Had you done so or even gave something in the way of reasonable argument I haven't already heard, I would have commented on your post.

Or in short, you didn't prove it, so I didn't comment, or "deleted" your post as you put it.

Greyy said:

What?

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I couldn't be any clearer.

Kenny'sID said:

Honestly, I've explained it so many times before, I just get tired of it. You see a hint of my reasoning on "opinions" even in the post you just replied to, so there you go. Just keep reading, I have and will comment on it often, so you if what I touched on already didn't make my point, should get an idea of my way of thinking...agree or not.



No offense, but I can define how the moon is made from Cheese, but that doesn't make it so. You have not proven evolution. Had you done so or even gave something in the way of reasonable argument I haven't already heard, I would have commented on your post.

Or in short, you didn't prove it, so I didn't comment, or "deleted" your post as you put it.



I couldn't be any clearer.

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That's what i mean by being willfully ignorant...

ximmix said:

Welcome to the enlightment, the age of knowledge not archaic understanding...

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"enlightenment" will be the very last thing on your mind when you find yourself cast into out darkness. Utter desolation.

Repent while you can repent. Your final breath is hunting you. It will overtake you and then no "do overs" for you then. No one will be there to lift you out..

You will become a theist in this life or your next.

There are no atheists in hell-fire. You do not have to die in your sins.

Pro 29:1 HE, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Joh 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

AACJ said:

"enlightenment" will be the very last thing on your mind when you find yourself cast into out darkness. Utter desolation.

Repent while you can repent. Your final breath is hunting you. It will overtake you and then no "do lovers" for you then. No one will be there to lift you out..

You will become a theist in this life or your next.

There are no atheists in hell-fire. You do not have to die in your sins.

Pro 29:1 HE, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

Mat 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Joh 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

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Hehe, that would make a great movie, Morgan Freeman as narrator...

ximmix said:

Ok, not going back to search for your comments. Can you summarize your key points?

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Which means I have to go back and find them all. There are enough things being discussed here, my mind can only retain so much, so in making room for the present, I shove the past to a place it's hard, if not impossible for me to remember all of it, but only that it was there. No offense, but this happens a lot, I may have even done/do it myself, but am learning it isn't a fair expectation to skip what was propesed the first itime around, then ask that the proposer repeat it. And I know you had no harmful intentions when asking.

It's easy to find by clicking the arrows on quoted posts....I've concluded they aren't that simple to find for all of us, and that's why they included those arrows.

No prob Kenny, we start anew...

ximmix said:

That's what i mean by being willfully ignorant...

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Still, no details...you keep making supposed points, yet give me nothing specific to reply to. I have no idea how you see that as what you do.

Kenny'sID said:

Still, no details...you keep making supposed points, yet give me nothing specific to reply to. I have no idea how you see that as what you do.

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Hmm Kenny, hard to give you all the details of the established science here, but once again, if you have a problem with a certain part of that science, I'm sure I, or more likely the scientists here, will be happy to clear things up...

ximmix said:

Hmm Kenny, hard to give you all the details of the established science here, but once again, if you have a problem with a certain part of that science, I'm sure I, or more likely the scientists here, will be happy to clear things up...

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No, I mean just the details for the comment you keep making, leaving me nothing to reply to. And I already told you where we can start, but whatever, go to the posts and refute what I said or not.