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Lamad
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As is every kind of believer - even YOU. If you cannot see "dispensations" that is your trouble, no one else to blame. In fact, my guess is, YOU believe in dispensations. For example:Dispensationalists are entitled to an opinion.
Did time exist BEFORE Moses brought the LAW to people? Of course, you know it did: from Adam to Moses. But it was time BEFORE the Law. What commandments did people have then to live by? Paul answers that for us:
Romans 5
13 For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
It was a time BEFORE the Law of God: it was a DISPENSATION. From Dictionary.com: "a divinely appointed order or age: the old Mosaic, or Jewish, dispensation; the new gospel, or Christian, dispensation."
Will you agree then, there was a time before the law, then after Moses there was a time OF Law, then there was a time when GOD dwelt with man, the time of Immanuel, and then a time after that when the CHURCH began and Christ ascended? If you don't believe in these things, you simply don't believe the bible!
But what you wrote is so far from what "faith" means to me.
One should never form their doctrine on 1) the parables alone and more importantly, 2) on obscure figurative language in Revelation.
WHO TOLD YOU this is "figurative?"
3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished...
4 ... And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished.
6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison
There is not one hint that this should not be taken literally. IF one does not take verses like these literally - that make perfect sense literally, but chooses to think they are figurative and must mean something else, they will surely end up with nonsense.
We look first and foremost at the clear and straightforward scriptures in order to have proper Biblical hermeneutics.
Exactly! these verses in Revelation are VERY straightforward.
Without the proper hermeneutic (system for Biblical interpretation) one has only an eisegesis ( a projection of their personal opinions) of any of the Text.
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Let's look at your post realistically too.
You opine that the "saints rule and reign in a millennium kingdom"
Not only is that "doctrinal" opinion only based on the obscurity in Rev20- but you don't even have proof that Rev.20 says what you claim!
What is written says, The saints lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
The testimony of Jesus in Rev.20 never says "they lived and reigned with Him a thousand years on earth.!!"
There's a reason the inspired scripture leaves out "on earth."
It's to prove our point, for one!
It's bc the phrase is figurative and prophetic.
Dispensationals are "adding" to the Text.
Do they indeed?
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. .. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Do you imagine there will be thrones in heaven, and PEOPLE in heaven that will need "judgment?"
Matthew 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Do you imagine this is speaking of HEAVEN? What does Jesus mean, "in the regeneration?" It is when earth is RENEWED BY FIRE.
Luke 22:30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Do you imagine this is speaking of heaven? NO! This is His kingdom ON EARTH.
Matt. 25
31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy[c] angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him...
Do you imagine this is speaking of heaven? NO! This is earth! Earth is where the nations are found. He cannot "come" to heaven - that is where He IS. If it mentions a "coming," that is TO EARTH.
34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world
Do you imagine this kingdom will be back in heaven? CAn you find even ONE VERSE that tells us Jesus will go BACK TO HEAVEN after He comes in Rev. 19? It looks more like "heaven" comes down to earth, as in the New Jerusalem.
And by doing so, they create a thousand years that not many can believe when they actually read Rev.20.
WHY do you think "not many" can believe? Is it because of their UNBELIEF?
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