Handling unclean money

i think my first question would be why are they involving the Christian in this instead of doing it themselves?

secondly if you know that this person is involved in illegal activity (not just suspect) then don't take the money. Instead, see if you can talk them into getting a regular job. better for them if they do, even if it pays less than the illegal activity.

there is the possibility that God has led them to the Christian so that this matter of their activity could be discussed, and not just to buy a present, as they had thought .

Is there something you should be reporting, even before there is an exchange of money?

Money is money... if the person took the actual bills from his paycheck account, would it be different money? We don't need to judge the actual currency; but is there a chance someone is being paid off for silence, favor, influence, or control?

I think it would be more pertinent if it were a believer at the center of the questionable activity.

You can balance your decision between the "meat sacrificed to idols" verses, and Mosaic Laws that maintained a societal judicial system. It depends on the situation.

Leviticus 19:11

`You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie to one another.

Isaiah 64:6
For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

Isaiah 28:8
For all the tables are full of filthy vomit, without a single clean place.

Ezekiel 33:25
"Therefore say to them, `Thus says the Lord GOD, "You eat meat with the blood in it, lift up your eyes to your idols as you shed blood. Should you then possess the land?

1 Corinthians 10:28
But if anyone says to you, "This is meat sacrificed to idols," do not eat it, for the sake of the one who informed you, and for conscience' sake;



Zechariah 3:4
"Remove the filthy garments from him." Again he said to him, "See, I have taken your iniquity away from you and will clothe you with festal robes."


Revelation 22:11
"Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy; and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness; and the one who is holy, still keep himself holy."

I Cor. 10

All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify...Eat anything that is sold in the meat market without asking questions for conscience' sake; 26FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORD'S, AND ALL IT CONTAINS.

Money is paper and metal, numbers on a page. The acts themselves are what need to be addressed.

Sounds like entrapment to me.

Searching_Soul12 said:

If Non religious person A wants to give Christian Person B money to buy something for Non religious person C, and Christian Person B is aware that there is a possibility that Non religious Person A may have got the money through undesirable ways or means, will God punish Christian Person B?
Is the issue covered in the bible?

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Romans 14:23 states that whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.

~ If the money is not clean, wash your hands after you stop touching it...
~ Most government money is dirty anyways...
~ Continue to discuss amongst yourselves...

Peace,

Leimeng

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

(***Insert Personal One Liner Here***)

Searching_Soul12 said:

If Non religious person A wants to give Christian Person B money to buy something for Non religious person C, and Christian Person B is aware that there is a possibility that Non religious Person A may have got the money through undesirable ways or means, will God punish Christian Person B?
Is the issue covered in the bible?

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God will not punish a Christian. God has already punished Christ on the Christian's behalf.

You have to use wisdom if it is obviously suspicious money and you are receiving it as a gift with strings or being asking to be a go between I would say no way. If someone is giving you money that you have earned and you are not sure of the source I say let it be. We had a instance in this regard when we had a travel agency. We were paid in a sum of cash for a trip and thought the money smelled funny. We did nothing as we had no real proof of wrong doing.

Are Christians immune from silly choices? Well:

New International Version (©1984)
Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism.

Searching_Soul12 said:

If Non religious person A wants to give Christian Person B money to buy something for Non religious person C, and Christian Person B is aware that there is a possibility that Non religious Person A may have got the money through undesirable ways or means, will God punish Christian Person B?
Is the issue covered in the bible?

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what is A asking you to do, exactly, and what does "undesirable ways or means" mean?

Paul covers something in 1Cor 10 that may be relevant:


We are under no obligation to police anyone's life. But if an issue of conscience arises, then we are obligated to take a stand.

I will admit, though, that I don't understand why one person is being the go-between for another. It sounds like a formula for difficulty.

On the contrary, God corrects those He loves..if you sin God will bring the hammer down, one way or another..when you are saved you are held to a much higher standard of conduct, so it is far worse to sin when you're a Christian.

John Jay said:

God will not punish a Christian. God has already punished Christ on the Christian's behalf.

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Satan is trying to trap you here. Never act as an intermediary for someones sin. Never do anything which condones or supports sin in any way. Here, non religious person a is using you to cover his sin. His unclean hands seek clean hands to make his work seem clean..so you are in effect covering up his sin with your own garmet, which will be stained after you are done. Take a stand and say no go

Searching_Soul12 said:

If Non religious person A wants to give Christian Person B money to buy something for Non religious person C, and Christian Person B is aware that there is a possibility that Non religious Person A may have got the money through undesirable ways or means, will God punish Christian Person B?
Is the issue covered in the bible?

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Searching_Soul12 said:

If Non religious person A wants to give Christian Person B money to buy something for Non religious person C, and Christian Person B is aware that there is a possibility that Non religious Person A may have got the money through undesirable ways or means, will God punish Christian Person B?

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No.

You're asking that if a non Christian gives a Christian some money to buy a gift for another non Christian, and the Christian suspects the money may have come from somthing like drugs or gambling, should he take it and buy the present as the first non Christian wanted?

Personally I don't see why not, unless he has reason to believe that it is all a set up and he's going to be arrested, or the money's forged, or something. If someone gives you money and asks you to buy something, what does it matter where it came from, whether a large bet, or honest wages? How the person got their money is for their conscience; you have just agreed to pass it on to the shopkeeper in return for a particular item, (assuming that item isn't drugs, or stolen.)

If person A tells the Christian exactly how they got the money, and it was illegal, or the Christian doesn't approve, they have every right to refuse to run that errand for them. But I don't see how it can be a sin on the part of the Christian, unless, as I say, they are aware that they are going to be handling dodgy goods.

Never act as an intermediary for someones sin. Never do anything which condones or supports sin in any way. Here, non religious person a is using you to cover his sin. His unclean hands seek clean hands to make his work seem clean..so you are in effect covering up his sin with your own garmet, which will be stained after you are done. Take a stand and say no go

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I agree that you need to be wary of getting used for a scam or a crime.
But what you are asking... will God punish. I think in these situations it is usually reality that punishes people. Civil accountability for actions.

Look at how God handles crime in most of the Old Testament -- He assigns it to the management of humans. After things get way out of hand, then God steps in.

But if you are looking for God's favor, then come to Him with the question. You will probably know the answer faster than you want it.

It is called money laundering in some cases.