Joe Six-Pack American?

Papias · Oct 7, 2008

Mach wrote:

You know what's funny is that the very same people complaining of Bush's and Palin's pronunciation of "nuclear" would not dare question Jesse Jackson for saying something like, "I didn't axe him any questions."

Fair enough. Can you point to where I defended JJ for the axe? If not, do you think we should generally believe people who make unsupported assertions?

Papias

soblessed53 · Oct 7, 2008

Allahuakbar said:
http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/10/01/sarah-joe-six-pack-palin-gets-ready-to-rumble/

When did Joe Six-Pack American deserve to be in the Vice Presidency? Isn't that the point of the Presidency, that the President should be considerably above average?

Jon Stewart said it best...

Sure to Republicans that's qualification! After all McCain has made a career out of being a POW!
Reminds me of some lazy bums I know who have made a career out of Workmen's Comp.
Considering how many marriages and lives,that alcohol has destroyed I wouldn't be making an issue of appealing to all the beer drinkers out there,but hey you take what you can get,huh!

MachZer0 · Oct 7, 2008

Papias said:
Mach wrote:

Fair enough. Can you point to where I defended JJ for the axe?

Did I say you defended him?

If not, do you think we should generally believe people who make unsupported assertions?

Papias

Then can we expect a post here anytime soon detailing the correct pronunciation of the word "ask" noting the error in usage by some people, such as Jesse Jackson?

Braunwyn · Oct 7, 2008

MachZer0 said:
You know what's funny is that the very same people complaining of Bush's and Palin's pronunciation of "nuclear" would not dare question Jesse Jackson for saying something like, "I didn't axe him any questions."

MachZer0 said:
Did I say you defended him?

Then can we expect a post here anytime soon detailing the correct pronunciation of the word "ask" noting the error in usage by some people, such as Jesse Jackson?

Besides the fact that I really dislike JJ (based on what I've seen of him), if he is pronouncing ask like axe, than he needs to go back to middle school english, along with others that find speaking properly a challenge.

DieHappy · Oct 7, 2008

soblessed53 said:
Sure to Republicans that's qualification! After all McCain has made a career out of being a POW!
Reminds me of some lazy bums I know who have made a career out of Workmen's Comp.
Considering how many marriages and lives,that alcohol has destroyed I wouldn't be making an issue of appealing to all the beer drinkers out there,but hey you take what you can get,huh!

Yeah, I know several making a career out of lying to collect medicaid and welfare. It sure sucks when people expect handouts, huh? You'd think we could do something to shrink all this government and let people succeed on their own merits. You and I, we think alike, I can tell!

Papias · Oct 7, 2008

Mach wrote:

You know what's funny is that the very same people complaining of Bush's and Palin's pronunciation of "nuclear" would not dare question Jesse Jackson for saying something like, "I didn't axe him any questions."

and

Did I say you defended him?

OK, then what is your statement? That we would in the future? Are you clairvoyant?

As far are Jesse goes, I don't care who is incapable of grade-school english, error on either side should be pointed out, not defended.

Papias

OphidiaPhile · Oct 7, 2008

MachZer0 said:
Did I say you defended him?

Then can we expect a post here anytime soon detailing the correct pronunciation of the word "ask" noting the error in usage by some people, such as Jesse Jackson?

JJ is not running for President.

MachZer0 · Oct 7, 2008

OphidiaPhile said:
JJ is not running for President.

Neither is George bush or Sarah Palin :wave:

OphidiaPhile · Oct 7, 2008

MachZer0 said:
Neither is George bush or Sarah Palin

Sarah Palin intelligence or in this case lack thereof in very important whether she is the President or the VP since she is but a heartbeat from the Presidency but you already know that and obviously do not care.

MachZer0 · Oct 7, 2008

OphidiaPhile said:
Sarah Palin intelligence or in this case lack thereof in very important whether she is the President or the VP since she is but a heartbeat from the Presidency but you already know that and obviously do not care.

So you're saying that a particular pronunciation of a word can be an indication of lack of intelligence?

OphidiaPhile · Oct 7, 2008

MachZer0 said:
So you're saying that a particular pronunciation of a word can be an indication of lack of intelligence?

If you include that with her answers to Katie Couric and the way she speaks then yes I can say she is an imbecile.

MachZer0 · Oct 7, 2008

OphidiaPhile said:
If you include that with her answers to Katie Couric and the way she speaks then yes I can say she is an imbecile.

What way does she speak?

RebYosef · Oct 7, 2008

MachZer0 said:
What way does she speak?

You are going down a goat trail that leads no where. A common mindset in American-Left politics is that if someone disagrees with me, then they are dumber then me. The attitude pretty much kills anything that involves civil discussion. This thread is a prime example.

Ringo84 · Oct 7, 2008

RebYosef said:
You are going down a goat trail that leads no where. A common mindset in American-Left politics is that if someone disagrees with me, then they are dumber then me. The attitude pretty much kills anything that involves civil discussion. This thread is a prime example.

That's interesting, as I have never said that about those that disagree with me unless their arguments are either non-existent or ridiculous. Your broad brushing of ALL the so-called "American Left" is therefore inaccurate.
Ringo

Allahuakbar · Oct 7, 2008

JustOneWay said:
Why is this even an issue? Or a partisan one? Jimmy Carter pronounced the word just like Bush.

Where? I have never heard him do so, though I never really listened for it in truth. I would think this would be somewhat unlikely, since President Carter was a Navy Nuke, and would be familiar with the word, though it is not impossible.

Allahuakbar · Oct 7, 2008

DieHappy said:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nuclear

Pronunciation: \ˈnü-klē-ər, ˈnyü-, ÷-kyə-lər\

It's only hard if you want it to be.

Or if you never learned to use a pronunciation guide. In that case it would be very difficult, dealing with symbols you had never learned.

Allahuakbar · Oct 7, 2008

RebYosef said:
You are going down a goat trail that leads no where. A common mindset in American-Left politics is that if someone disagrees with me, then they are dumber then me. The attitude pretty much kills anything that involves civil discussion. This thread is a prime example.

That is an interesting accusation. Can you provide evidence? Since it is so common, perhaps you could provide 12 examples?

MachZer0 · Oct 7, 2008

Allahuakbar said:
Or if you never learned to use a pronunciation guide. In that case it would be very difficult, dealing with symbols you had never learned.

Or we can look up similar sounding words such as muscular

Main Entry: nu·cle·ar Pronunciation: \ˈnü-klē-ər, ˈnyü-, ÷-kyə-lər\ Main Entry: mus·cu·lar javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?muscul01.wav=muscular') Pronunciation: \ˈməs-kyə-lər\ Of course, I guess I've been wrong all these years and the proper pronunciation for muscualr is "mus clear"

Allahuakbar · Oct 7, 2008

MachZer0 said:
Or we can look up similar sounding words such as muscular

Main Entry: nu·cle·ar Pronunciation: \ˈnü-klē-ər, ˈnyü-, ÷-kyə-lər\ Main Entry: mus·cu·lar javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?muscul01.wav=muscular') Pronunciation: \ˈməs-kyə-lər\ Of course, I guess I've been wrong all these years and the proper pronunciation for muscualr is "mus clear"

No, again the schwa is a short vowel. The provided "məs-kyə-lər" is not pronounced Musc-you-ler, but mus-kya-ler.

I do not know why you misrepresent the pronunciation while simultaneously providing the refutation. This is not one of those debatable issues. A schwa has a definite sound, and it is NEVER a long vowel. You can get as angry as you like about this, but it will never change for you.

The Webster's website even gives an audible representation of the pronunciation, and it disagrees. I seriously do not know why you continue to argue such a futile point.

MachZer0 · Oct 7, 2008

Allahuakbar said:
No, again the schwa is a short vowel. The provided "məs-kyə-lər" is not pronounced Musc-you-ler, but mus-kya-ler.

I do not know why you misrepresent the pronunciation while simultaneously providing the refutation. This is not one of those debatable issues. A schwa has a definite sound, and it is NEVER a long vowel. You can get as angry as you like about this, but it will never change for you.

The Webster's website even gives an audible representation of the pronunciation, and it disagrees. I seriously do not know why you continue to argue such a futile point.

So who says nuc you ler as oppesed to new kya ler? And please offer your factual evidence

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