Let me share something with you. I was in my forties married with two children, a Catholic who went to Mass and Communion almost every day, when Jesus started calling me into his ministry. I had two years and a number of miracles happen around me before I finally accepted Gods call. The miracle that finally convinced me that I should say yes was my baby daughter who was born blind was healed. Even then I asked for a sign that it was really Jesus asking me to be a minister. I asked to pray in tongues that night if it was really God calling me. I prayed in tongues for the first time that night. I have had thirty years of Jesus/Holy Spirit personally teaching me. I am not a pastor, nor do I accept support from man. Thirty years ago Jesus told me a time was coming soon when man would suffer more than he has ever suffered. I was to give a word and leave. Out of that word a community would grow. He wanted a place of safety for his people. Jesus/Holy Spirit has told me many things, but the most important could be this: No matter who tells you anything about God, be it a priest, bishop or anyone, we are to ask Jesus if it is right or wrong.
Hi, thank you for sharing.
I praise God for your daughters healing.
Are you saying that 30 years ago Jesus said that 'a time is coming', then you gave a word or talk and a community developed? If so, what do you mean.
And if so, what do you mean as pertains to a community of safety for his people. Are you saying there is one somewhere?
And why would one exist on earth? That further contradicts God's words, Jesus' words.
Asking for signs is not a thing we are to do. Jesus said no signs will be given this generation but Jonah
In the NT.. This generation refers to us, all who come to faith since Christ, and until the rapture (if rapture does occur.) If not - until the end. So Jesus says wicked men ask for a sign, I tell you none will be given it but the sign of Jonah, and then he mentions what that's about. (His death and resurrection.)
Signs have always been discouraged iirc in the bible. Though was given in ot and lots were drawn in nt for the new Apostle who replaced Judas.
You at that time were a new believer if I follow right, so you would not know such at the time. Which is okay of course as new Christians we are babes and out of innocence and trust say and ask anything on our hearts as should do all our lives and God would never do anything to harm us. But we do see as we grow what to be wary of. Signs.. and Jesus telling you things which do not align with the word.
I would not think that is Jesus, as you see, all I wrote before who may read this, all those who may read this thread countless number of people in the list of those who may have heard you regarding your op and if any believe it, then now they are in error and further they will do same and lead others into error.
As to tongues being a sign. I dunno about that, but will keep it to myself.
You first had to see a miracle to believe in Jesus.
that's okay.
Then you ask for a sign from God.
not so hot.
You were testing God, and the Lord is not to be tested. Just a thought. But again, you didn't know not to ask for a sign and surely there are many who do ask for signs today..i'm just rattling off stuff as i go.
But as I am not God and do not know your heart, I can only give opinion and is only such, and don't please feel hurt or put down at what I'm saying; I know if such as you say is of God you'll not have any problems with what I say which again are just my thoughts.
The only protection we read of iirc in the nt, is given the 144,000 during the tribulation. And perhap Moses and Elijah, also during tribulation. In the tribulation there is another protection; for I believe the Hebrews, or Jews..little rusty on that, but fairly sure is in Revelation.
Are you talking about the tribulation? Or are you talking about a community came about in your area due to a talk or speech you gave?
If so what does the purpose serve, and why would God provide safety to some Christians and not others, and why would God tell us we will suffer persecution, etc. and then create a community of safety? It doesn't fit with God's word.
Or are you speaking such as a place like a hospital to be built, or such like that.
I have read books of chinese, persecuted chinese of course, who have no more than a corner of scripture, a few verses, all they have and with just that and with whatever was given mouth to mouth, underground, hence they had little to knowledge of the bible, and are believers in Christ, with all that occurred to these, nothing which occurred did not line up with the bible, and to boot, they had no clue to hardly anything contained in the bible.
It's like reading the book of Acts, but the point again is it all lines up with God's word and does not deviate, such as to what you are proclaiming in the thread, your op post.
Again, they did not have biblical knowlege and all occurred lines up with Gods word.
What you say in op does not, and you have to know it does not. I mean you can not miss it, so you are telling yourself something for whatever reason and not seeing what you are saying does not line up in the least with God's word, as to the op post.
If something were given me by anyone, especially claiming to be Jesus, by prayer or whatever, and it were not in the bible, nor line up with the bible, I would not accept it in the least.
God would not tell me to do something against His teachings and will.
Nor, has such ever occurred to me. Jesus telling me to do something or never to do something, except as is contained in the bible.
Nor does the Holy Spirit bring things to us that are not in the word, or align with the word.
That is, if you'll forgive me, as to the topic at hand, tho I've not been here in a few days, what I was reading in beginning or such, what you say in no way aligns with God's word.
Those two things alone, would give me great pause. Not pause, I would run actually.
God will not give something that goes against his word, and while I've not read all your defenses throughout here, brother there is serious error. I have no need to read all your defenses as clearly what you said earlier is in no wise in line with God's word.
I agree, I do not take anything from man. I take it from the bible. If someone says something, if it doesn't align with the word, and even if it does, takes many to much thought as to the very many many scriptures that may also come into play.
I don't read theologians, nor commentaries, etc, as it's another mans understanding of the word, same as I can have..though mine, will be much less than could be as am not studied in languages, history, culture, etc, but none the less, with all the theologies out there and each theologian backing it up with scripture for their wholly opposite than other theologians who also back theirs up with scripture, well, that's the state of the church, fairly sad, and people need to be their own reseracher of the word, by the word, and if need language help get language help, etc.
Though a time and a place for all things. Each man is okay wherever they are at, and it's okay. I just see it all as poison teaching another mans teaching from the pulpit and if people do not say well, why doesn't this scripture match up, they will accept what is given.
Am extremely cautious as to any helps.
And I know very little as to much in the bible, but what I do know is my own; as much as I have tossed off popular preach teach, etc. which I never had much of anyway.
So, I dont know how many years you've been as to your op belief. You didn't say yet how many years ago that you believe Jesus told you what you say he told you.
Ah, whatever i write is just my thoughts.
And I appreciate the admonition, that always know from the word truth, you say Jesus but the bible is where one goes and can also pray to Jesus, but one won't get anything beyond what is written.
Except as things as pertains to... I'm gonna use you to.. God doesn't say it basically (tho maybe some have said he does and maybe such does occur) to be an evangelist, hence billy graham. Though Billy Graham was not given in that manner, things fell in place iirc, as have read almost all auto and biographies tho was over 10 years back.
and of course there are thousands more millions more given tasks.
but no task will not line up with Gods word. Such as with Jim Jones, drink this koolaid, tho i dont think they had a chance anyway
So can you tell me about the place of safety as i wrote in the beginning. Are you referring to a community somehwere, or do you think you are referring to the tribulation.
I'm glad you have studied God's word many years, that is awesome.
But is clear, somehow as theologians also do...they will neglect other scripture to support their theories.
Job says God givea and God takes away.
Preachers say the same thing.
Job was wrong. We know he is wrong. satan is the one who murdered his family not God.
Next chapter;
Job says and pastors teach same
Why should we accept only good from the Lord and not the bad.
Job was wrong. He had no clue what was going on, but God revealed it to us. Just as we can not see the spiritual realm, neither could Job, it's what he thought was occuring but same as chapter one, he was wrong and was not as he says;
As God in no wise did the bad, satan did.
In the same manner and this is just a lite example, this is typical of preachers teach things and they've never thought it out to the truth and just keep passing the teaching down and down and down, and usually from someone they read. tho the bit with Job is global.
and you may be doing the same thing.
to make it fit, you neglect the others..is what im saying
anyway, it's an honor to talk with you, excuse my brashness please..I'm sorry..
just feel I should speak and u shared with me.
In the end, of course what is right for you is what you should do, but one can say I do this because is how I feel, but to lay it on God when is not of God, is troubling, and leads other astray imo..
