To abuse Gods Word, is to contradict what God has said. I already asked you, why you don't believe what Gods Word says in Romans 3:11 "There is none that seek after God".
Gods Word says "there is none that seek after God", but you reject it and contradict God, by claiming that you seek after Him everyday. So that's why I responded the way I did.
What a fascinating and astonishing religious philosophy. Because I am told by God and His Son Jesus, to Seek Him, and I do, you preach to the world that I am contradicting Scripture, lying to you, and abusing scripture and that I don't believe God, because David said among men who say there is no God, "there is none that seek God".
When I show you David and Paul's actual words, you completely ignore them, refusing to even acknowledge they even exist .
And then you accuse me of Abusing Scripture and that I don't believe God.
It's OK that you do these things, Jesus said you would. I was just hoping for more of an actual discussion about what is written.
So, instead of giving a reason why you reject the truth that Gods Word clearly revealed, and list a bunch of unrelated verses which speak about Gods elect prophets. You seem to have forgotten the fact that none of those prophets were seeking after God,, until, God gave them the gift of repentance,
Now Wait a minute Dan, You have said over and over, "there is none that seek after God". When I point to Scriptures that show men who, like myself, have and continue to Seek God, to Seek His face, to Seek His Righteousness, you accuse me of "Abusing Scripture", of "Twisting Scripture", basically lying about both God and myself. And you accuse me of not believing God.
But now, all of the sudden, your preaching has changed. Now all the sudden, are were actually men that do seek God. Which is what the Scriptures I posted, that you called irrelevant, have said all along.
Fascinating.
and the gift of His grace, and the gift of faith, and the gift of His Holy Spirit and a long list of other gifts which are all necessary for salvation.
I see, so in your religion, God just randomly picks men to seek Him, not by them
humbling themselves, as the Scriptures teach, but by some secret Holy Lottery in which even though God
tells all men to SEEK Him,
He withholds the capacity to do so for many, based on nothing a man chooses. And of course HE chose you but apparently didn't choose me.
Imagine that.
Abraham and Moses and everyone else you tried to misrepresent, were all saved in the exact way that I was. We were all born "dead in our sin", we were all born as slaves to Satan, we were all born hating God, and loving our sin. We were all born enemies of God, and His Word was foolishness to us and we would never believe any of it in a billion years. So, now that we have established those few facts, we can conclude that none of us chose to repent and put our faith in the One we hate. So God had to do everything for us, we could do nothing for ourselves because we were dead and dead men can only stink and that's all.
I see, so the Bible, the Prophets, Jesus, the Apostles, all of the Scriptures are a lie in your religion? All Irrelevant in your religion. All the pleading with God to the people of the earth to turn to Him, to Seek Him, is all a deception, Hollywood, an illusion. All Jesus' teaching for men to "repent" and "come to Him, just an illusion because men have no choice, and never had a choice in the matter.
So then, according to what you call the "Facts" of your religion, Abraham's Righteousness and faith were given to Abraham by God, based on nothing Abraham chose to do or even wanted. While the same God withheld from the men of Sodom, the same Faith and the same Righteousness or the desire to have them. Then the same God destroyed the men of Sodom,
"because" there was no one righteous among them.
What a Fascinating judgment
against God. That HE tells men over and over and over and over in the Holy Scriptures,
to turn to Him in repentance, but according to your religion, withholds from them the ability for them to do so. Then slaughtered them by the thousands when they refused to turn to Him in repentance.
While at the same time forcing others like Abraham, based on no choice they ever made or desire they ever exhibited,
to turn to Him in repentance, promising to reward them with the gift of eternal life in paradise, "Because" they turned to Him in repentance.
Therefore, you have no need for scriptures, Jesus, the Prophets, God's Word, faith, righteousness, as you yourself declares, these things are all irrelevant in your religion, because God does it all for you. But withholds the same for me.
Because You hit the Holy Lottery, and I didn't.
What an astonishing and fascinating religion. And a great one for those like you who hit the Holy lotto.
Not so great for the rest of us, who believe what is actually written..
But you're proposing that dead men can resurrect themselves and create their own faith and repentance,
to cash in on the free offer of eternal paradise, instead of remaining on the path to the lake of fire., See you private opinions are not supported by any scriptures at all,, and you gave no viable defence for your unbiblical theology.
No, that is just another of your many misrepresentations of both my words and Gods. I am not, nor can you find even one word in any of my posts, where I am proposing that I resurrected myself. You know this, and yet you still promote the falsehood. This shows more about your heart, than mine. Nevertheless, to address what you said, I was Spiritually dead, not physically. What you refuse to accept, and no doubt will refuse to even discuss,
is that God is a Spirit, and therefore I,
who was dead spiritually, not physically,
can hear Him.
The Spirit of God tells all the Spiritually Dead, from Abel and Abraham to Paul and me, "
To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation."
The teaching you are promoting, that God tells those who are spiritually dead in trespasses and sins, "
To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.", but then hardens their heart so they cannot do as His Voice instructs, and then punishes them with everlasting destruction,
"Because" their heart was hardened by no choice of theirs, is an evil and wicked judgment against God.
I will not join you in this astonishing and false religious judgment against God.
Please show me where the Bible says that dad men can resurrect themselves and create a new nature for themselves, where they are transformed from God hater to God lovers, and where they hate everything they loved before and love everything they hated before they resurrected themselves.
I'll save you time, by confirming that no such scriptures exist, someone has taught you man made religion, instead of what Gods Word actually teaches.
Given you have exalted yourself as a Judge against God, accusing Him of all manner of wickedness and injustice, it is no surprise that you would also make such judgments against me.
This is actually an honor for me, and a signal from the Christ "of the Bible", that I am on the right tract.
Nevertheless, there is a point in which I am instructed to shake the dust. I have reached that point. I hope that you might consider what the Scriptures actually teach about these things, even if it is in the privacy of your own home, just you and God. But there is no edification for anyone to continue in this manner of discourse.
So long.
