State leaders speak out about plans to expand the Islamic Academy of Alabama

[rjs330]

There are more Christians living in Muslim-majority countries than there are Christians living in the United States of America.

Consider the potential impact on Christian communities if a local newspaper in Baghdad or Karachi reported that the United States would not permit the establishment of an Islamic educational institution because Americans fear Islam is threat to American society?

Are you concerned about Christians' safety in Islamic countries, or your concern is only about American Christians?

You make my point. Christians safety in Islamic countries shows exactly why it's concerning. Islamists would have no problem with killing them. They are dangerous. And they coming. Already those that are coming here are getting control over some local governments. Meshing religion and government because that is what their religion is.

 

[BCP1928]

You make my point. Christians safety in Islamic countries shows exactly why it's concerning. Islamists would have no problem with killing them. They are dangerous. And they coming. Already those that are coming here are getting control over some local governments. Meshing religion and government because that is what their religion is.

Sounds like jealousy to me.

 

[Hans Blaster]

More than malaria? Or climate change? Or the surprise arrival of a catastrophically large meteorite impact?

Do you mean ‘biggest threat to Christianity’?

I know a bunch of Muslims and they are no different to Christians insofar as they believe in a version of the Abrahamic faith.

They are certainly not shouting ‘Death to the non-religious’ down my way.

Muslims aren't even the biggest threat to Christianity, we are, because we reject their god and religion.

 

[rjs330]

Well, that didn't last long.

What are you talking about. This IS the honest conversation.

The problem of radical islamism in the European Union

After the beginning of Syrian war in 2011, rise of ISIS and continuing sectarian violence in Iraq and Taliban’s takeover in Afghanistan, million of refugees f

brusselsmorning.com

Growing Islamism in Europe Negatively Affects US Interests

https://www.meforum.org/fatah-islamism-threat-to-western-civilization

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The Dark Side Of Islam

I could go on.

I don't know why I still get flabbergasted at the ignorance and double standards you guys keep applying towards Muslims (and other immigrants).

I don't know why I still get flabbergasted at ignorance and willingness to turn a blind eye to the dangers of Islamist immigrants you guys perpetuate.

Most big cities have their own immigrant enclaves like Little Italy, Chinatown, and Little Havana. Hacidic Jews have some in the NYC region; they even have one here in Baltimore, though it's not as neatly delineated as others.

Another example of willing blindness. The difference between them all. For example, the Chinese aren't coming here to create a communist community and same goes for Cubans. Islamists are coming and are creating enclaves where Sharia law supersedes a countries law and in places governance by Islamic law. Europe has been placed in a pot of water and has been slowly cooking and some places are realizing they are being cooked.

What we are seeing isn't the old style of immigrant anymore. As I have been saying, times are changing. Assimilation, melting pot, used to be the idea. It is no longer.

The east coast is littered with cities, states, and towns named after places in Europe, often those their settlers left behind.

Irrelevant.

Moving beyond immigrants, evangelicals have long advocated for living somewhat removed from "worldly" society. They've got their own schools; often segregate into their own social circles, and have some of their own parallel media industries.

So does every other Christian belief system. You seem to have a special dislike toward some of your fellow believers.

The separation is spiritual not physical. As Paul said he is referring to sinfulness and not space, because the whole world is judged by God and in order to physically separate we would have to leave the world. So no it is not about leaving society. I suspect you believe that too. If you don't, you should. It's scriptural.

More extreme than that, Amish and Mennonite communities have segregated themselves to a degree far beyond what most immigrants do. Amish teens are excommunicated for assimilating.

And the Amish are not immigrating into other countries and in the process working to take over other cities or countries governments for their religion.
We all need to wake up as to what is happening in the world. As I have said, it is changing. Immigration has changed a lot. Its amazing you can't recognize that.

 

[rjs330]

Sounds like jealousy to me.

Oh? How so? Are you putting words in my mouth again?

 

[essentialsaltes]

And the Amish are not immigrating into other countries and in the process working to take over other cities or countries governments for their religion.

They already accomplished that feat centuries ago. Too bad there weren't enough proper Americans around to shout that 'Ordnung law is un-American'.

Migration to North America
Amish began migrating to Pennsylvania, then-regarded favorably due to the lack of religious persecution

 

[Lukaris]

Muslims aren't even the biggest threat to Christianity, we are, because we reject their god and religion.

Sounds like proselytism being directed at Christians.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Sounds like proselytism being directed at Christians.

What are you talking about?

 

[Larniavc]

And one of those crucial differences is that the Christianity's texts make no direct prescription for consolidation of government power and religious power, whereas, it's a fundamental idea in the Islamic texts.

But they both have members who call for the death of the gays today.

 

[Larniavc]

Moving beyond immigrants, evangelicals have long advocated for living somewhat removed from "worldly" society.

If Christians did that properly things would better.

 

[Larniavc]

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Islamists would have no problem with killing them.

Are Christian’s being killed in Islamic countries?

 

[Larniavc]

Amish began migrating to Pennsylvania, then-regarded favorably due to the lack of religious persecution

I’m not up on American history apart from some horrible racial atrocities; who might have been doing the religious persecution at the you are referring to?

 

[Larniavc]

Muslims aren't even the biggest threat to Christianity, we are, because we reject their god and religion.

Granted we persecute them mercilessly by not wanting to be governed by their rules.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I’m not up on American history apart from some horrible racial atrocities; who might have been doing the religious persecution at the you are referring to?

There was some religious persecution of various sects of Anabaptists is Switzerland so they came to Pennsylvania.

 

[BCP1928]

There was some religious persecution of various sects of Anabaptists is Switzerland so they came to Pennsylvania.

And not enough for the Puritans in Holland so they came to Massachusets.

 

[rjs330]

This isn't about Islam in general. Its about Islamists who are actively working to create Islamic governance and establish Islamic law. They are broken into two types of groups. The jihadists who do so through violence and the second group who act more like Fabian Socialists and use the current systems by working inside them. They work inside the justice systems, the education systems and all other legal operatus to make the changes inside out.

Radical Islamist organization Muslim Brotherhood is infiltrating US colleges to ‘transform Western society from within,’ report warns

The Muslim Brotherhood is half-way through its plan to “transform Western society from within” by covertly embedding itself in college campuses and other institutions across the US, a n…

nypost.com

 

[Lukaris]

What are you talking about?

Sounds like preaching a doctrine to me. I reject your beliefs and am a threat to you. I wouldn’t say that if I was in some (alleged) enlightened atheist forum. Carry on as you see fit I guess.

 

[BCP1928]

This isn't about Islam in general. Its about Islamists who are actively working to create Islamic governance and establish Islamic law. They are broken into two types of groups. The jihadists who do so through violence and the second group who act more like Fabian Socialists and use the current systems by working inside them. They work inside the justice systems, the education systems and all other legal operatus to make the changes inside out.

Radical Islamist organization Muslim Brotherhood is infiltrating US colleges to ‘transform Western society from within,’ report warns

The Muslim Brotherhood is half-way through its plan to “transform Western society from within” by covertly embedding itself in college campuses and other institutions across the US, a n…

nypost.com

How do they get past the Constitution and the majority of voters?

 

[iluvatar5150]

What are you talking about. This IS the honest conversation.

It's a conversation.

The problem of radical islamism in the European Union

After the beginning of Syrian war in 2011, rise of ISIS and continuing sectarian violence in Iraq and Taliban’s takeover in Afghanistan, million of refugees f

brusselsmorning.com

An op-ed, written by what appears to be a grad student, that doesn't support your claim that "Islamism is the biggest and most deadly threat in the world today." Cool.

Growing Islamism in Europe Negatively Affects US Interests

Another op-ed, wherein the threats to US interests are listed as:

• Anti-Islamist European parties that are gaining popularity are also into other bad stuff.
• It shakes up our relationships with regards to Iran and Israel.

*yawn*

https://www.meforum.org/fatah-islamism-threat-to-western-civilization

A summary of a webinar...

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Paywall.

The Dark Side Of Islam

This article is from 32 years ago.

I could go on.

I don't know why I still get flabbergasted at ignorance and willingness to turn a blind eye to the dangers of Islamist immigrants you guys perpetuate.

Perhaps it has something to do with your wild statements and your failure to understand the sources you provide to attempt to substantiate them. Did you even read those pieces beyond the headlines? Nothing in there supported your claim that "Islamism is the biggest and most deadly threat in the world today".

The difference between them all. For example, the Chinese aren't coming here to create a communist community and same goes for Cubans.

Nice little goalpost move there. First the complaint was that they were creating "separate communities." Now it's that they're creating the wrong kinds of separate communities.

Islamists are coming and are creating enclaves where Sharia law supersedes a countries law and in places governance by Islamic law.

Perhaps another reason you're flabbergasted is that you continue to believe lies like this.

Tell me - in what jurisdiction does Sharia law supersede the regular civil and criminal laws?

Irrelevant.

It's absolutely relevant to your claim that the self-segregation of immigrants is somehow a new thing.

So does every other Christian belief system. You seem to have a special dislike toward some of your fellow believers.

I have a special dislike towards hypocrites.

The separation is spiritual not physical.

You should tell that to all of the fundamentalists I grew up with, because they leaned pretty hard on the physical separation. In fact, I'd argue that American Evangelical Christianity has gone MUCH farther down the road of physical separation than the spiritual one. They've got their own schools and media ecosystems, and church programs most nights of the week so one doesn't even have to find other avenues for socialization. What they haven't done at all is excised themselves of the greed, power-seeking, corruption, consumerism, and idol-worship that is supposed to be a mark of wordly spirituality.

And the Amish are not immigrating into other countries and in the process working to take over other cities or countries governments for their religion.

Another goalpost move. This time, it's not just the failure to assimilate. Now, the complaint is that Muslims are not integrating while also trying to take over.

We all need to wake up as to what is happening in the world. As I have said, it is changing. Immigration has changed a lot. Its amazing you can't recognize that.

I don't recognize it because I think your description of previous waves of immigration is very flawed.