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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

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The scriptures say that the UNRIGHTEOUS shall not inherit the kingdom of GOD. 1 Corinthians 6:9KJV This is a very plain statement, let it soak in to your mind. Now, another scripture, Galatians 2:21
Lets look at Galatians 2:21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died [j]in vain.”

Can you tell me in all of Galatians 2 that the law Paul was quoting is the Ten Commandments, Paul certainly never said this nor would Paul be in rebellion to God. That only worshipping the God of Creation is unrighteous and keeping God's name holy is unrighteous or not murdering our neighbor is unrighteous. You seem to be taking a lot of liberties that Paul did not.

What law was Paul speaking about in this very chapter and why he said what he said in verse 21

Lets look...

Gal 2: 3 Yet not even Titus who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised. 4 And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), 5 to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

6 But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God [b]shows personal favoritism to no man—for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me. 7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter 8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles), 9 and when James, [c]Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do.

11 Now when [d]Peter had come to Antioch, I [e]withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; 12 for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing [f]those who were of the circumcision. 13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.

14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, [g]why do you compel Gentiles to live as [h]Jews? 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 knowing that a man is not [i]justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

17 “But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ therefore a minister of sin? Certainly not! 18 For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. 19 For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God. 20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. 21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died [j]in vain.”

What is Paul talking about- not once did He say "the works of the law" is the Ten Commandments.

Paul addressed this issue in several places, the Jews were requiring the Gentiles to be circumcised to hear the gospel Gal2:3 (context) and to be saved Acts15:1-2. Basically they were teaching they could save themselves by their works (circumcision) apart from Christ. This is what Paul was correcting. God's holy commandments, is not something Paul said was unrighteous. He said not keeping them dishonors God Rom2:21-23 and is sinning Rom7:7 and makes one an enemy of God Rom8:7-8 and keeping the commandments of God is what matters 1Cor7:19


The Ten Commandments did not provide righteousness, they are the old covenant.
According to the Scriptures

Psa 119:172 My tongue shall speak of Your word,
For all Your commandments are righteousness.

Psa 119:142 Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness,
And Your law is truth.

Can you tell me when the Holy Spirit of Truth became untruths and the commandments that started with only worshipping God became unrighteous?

The new covenant imputes righteousness to the one of faith. The law wasn’t of faith.
The law has always been of faith. Obedience is of faith. Disobedience is unbelief, rebellion and sin Heb3:7-19

Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.

Gen 26:5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.”

Why Jesus Himself said:


Luke 6:46 “But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do the things which I say? 47 Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48 He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently against that house, and could not shake it, for it was [j]founded on the rock. 49 But he who heard and did nothing is like a man who built a house on the earth without a foundation, against which the stream beat vehemently; and immediately it [k]fell. And the ruin of that house was great.”

Paul even said:

Romans 3: 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.

The Ten Commandments will not justify, forgive, have mercy, enable repentance or give everlasting life.
The role of the Ten Commandments is to show us our sin Rom3:20 1John3:4 James2:11 Rom7:7 so we are not depending on our righteousness (right or wrong) but on God's Psa119:172 which is everlasting Psa119:42

The law cannot save us, but it shows us we are dirty (sinners) and the only solution is Jesus to go to Him and ask for His help in overcoming our sins. 1John1:9. When He cleanses us, when we repent, which means having a sorry heart and turning from sin to Christ abiding in Him John15:4-10 He says go and sin no more. We are not saved in our sins Heb10:26-30 we are saved from sin Mat1:21 we need a complete transformation in Christ Rom6:1-4

But if we refuse to the let God define sin which He does 1John3:4 James2:11 Mat5:19-30 than sadly all we will do is cover our sins where we will not receive mercy Pro28:13 John3:19-21

The Ten Commandments are the old covenant but yet many think we are under them.
You keep quoting you but lets look at the Scriptures.

The New Covenant was established on better promises, not all new laws. Heb8:6

God said He would write His Laws in our hearts and minds Heb8:10 (who determines what are God's Laws, He or us? I am going with Him, what are under His mercy seat we will be judged by Exo25:21 Rev15:5 Rev11:19 James2:11-12)

The only thing that changed was the location of God's Laws

Eo 34: 28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

2 Cor 3:3 clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God,
not the laws on scrolls written with ink, but written by the Spirit of the living God. Who wrote the Ten Commandments God or man?

Exo31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

What is the finger of God? The Spirit of the living God

Luke 11:20 But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Mat 12:28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.

The Holy Spirit of Truth wrote the Ten Commandments

2 Cor 3:3 not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart.

The only law written and tablets of stone is the Ten Commandments and where did God's laws go? All Ten? Tablets of the heart, the New Covenant

Heb8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

God keeping His promise of not altering His words Psa89:34, not a jot or tittle Mat5:18


GODLY love in us by HIS spirit will fulfill the law.
Not if we are not subjecting ourselves to God's laws. Rom8:7-8
If you love your neighbor as yourself you will not do anything wrong against your neighbor but law keepers can’t see this. When Jesus fulfilled the law he did so with his FATHERS love. Love is the fulfillment of the law. If Jesus had to fulfill the Ten Commandments then obviously they didn’t have GODLY love because GODLY love is what it takes to fulfill the Ten Commandments. No one will have the righteousness needed to be in the kingdom of GOD if they are Ten Commandment keepers. The law kills everyone under it. Romans 3:19-20 None of the blessings of the new covenant are in the Ten Commandments. I don’t hate the Ten Commandments because they were used to show me that I was a hopeless sinner in need of a messiah and this is the lesson of the schoolmaster
Love never went undefined by God and redefined by man.

God said in His own Testimony

Exo 20:6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
Jesus said the same thing who is God made flesh and the one speaking the Ten Commandments- If (conditional) you love Me, keep My commandments. John14:15 how we abide in Him John15:10 Jesus always leading by example 1John2:6
but after we are in Christ the schoolmaster is no longer needed .
The law is a teacher that brings us to Christ- once in Christ did He say we no longer need the law? He said If you love Me, keep My commandments. Why would anyone not want to retain what they learned in school and how many people use this verse but yet skip school and never once tried to keep all of God's Laws?

Apparently the majority of people on this forum are blind to these things . Because of this I will no longer reply to them, only to people who have been given eyes to see.
I see this is your opinion on the subject, but what did Jesus say? He is the only One that matters and He said the opposite. He said the blind are the ones who do not keep the commandments of God but instead depend on on their own commandments and traditions.

Mat 15:3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; (found in the Ten Commandments) and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father [a]or mother.Thus you have made the [b]commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

8 ‘These people [c]draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.

9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’


10 When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear and understand: 11 Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”

12 Then His disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?”

13 But He answered and said, “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted. 14 Let them alone.
They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”
 
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John 13:34 Mark 12:29-31 Notice Jesus said ”there are No Commandments greater than these”, these two commandments are greater than the Ten Commandments. People fail to see that Jesus came to save us from the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, the Ten Commandments. 2 Corinthians 3:7 It should be obvious that no one can keep the Ten Commandments because all have sinned and , 1 Corinthians 15:56 It is spiritually illogical to continue trying to keep a law that you can never keep. The two commandments Jesus gave are kept by GODS love in us. Romans 5:5 Romans 13:10 This GODLY love by HIS spirit is what will fulfill the law. This is GOD working in us rather than we attempting to keep a law that only kills us. Trying to keep the Ten Commandments is your work but the two greatest of all commandments that Jesus gave are GOD working in us. What the Ten Commandments could not do GOD did, Romans 8:3 Galatians 4:4-5 Hebrews 10:1-10 Romans 3:20 Acts 13:39 Galatians 2:21 Trying to keep the old covenant Ten Commandments actually denies all that Christ did and you will fall from grace. Galatians 5:4 If we have been given a new covenant then why do people still want to be under the old covenant ? None of this writing will have any effect on a die hard law keeper because they are not converted and can’t understand.
the distinction between the Old and New Covenants is primarily about the basis of the covenant and the location of the law. The Old Covenant was conditional on human effort and was based on external laws written on stone tablets, while the New Covenant is based on God's grace and promises, with His law written internally on the heart through the Holy Spirit

Old Covenant

  • Basis: Attempted to achieve righteousness through human effort and obedience.
  • Law: The law was external, written on stone tablets (Exodus 20).
  • Outcome: Described as leading to a faulty relationship due to human faithlessness and disobedience.
  • Role: Seen as necessary to demonstrate humanity's inability to be righteous on its own and to point to the need for a savior.
New Covenant

  • Basis: God's grace and promise, accepted by faith.
  • Law: God's law is written on the heart through the Holy Spirit, enabling believers to live in accordance with it.
  • Outcome: Spiritual regeneration and a new heart, with Christ entering the life of the believer.
  • Role: Provides a relationship with God based on His power to transform the believer, not their own power.
 
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Premises:
1. The Sabbath was a part of the Mosaic Law and of the Mosaic Law only.
2. The Law was only for Jews, since Moses till Christ.
3. Even the book of Genesis was a theological part of the Mosaic Law and is not literal (namely in its creation account).

If these premises are all true, we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath.
I agree. If your premises were true your conclusion would be correct
 
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You are correct. T
the distinction between the Old and New Covenants is primarily about the basis of the covenant and the location of the law. The Old Covenant was conditional on human effort and was based on external laws written on stone tablets, while the New Covenant is based on God's grace and promises, with His law written internally on the heart through the Holy Spirit

Old Covenant

  • Basis: Attempted to achieve righteousness through human effort and obedience.
  • Law: The law was external, written on stone tablets (Exodus 20).
  • Outcome: Described as leading to a faulty relationship due to human faithlessness and disobedience.
  • Role: Seen as necessary to demonstrate humanity's inability to be righteous on its own and to point to the need for a savior.
New Covenant

  • Basis: God's grace and promise, accepted by faith.
  • Law: God's law is written on the heart through the Holy Spirit, enabling believers to live in accordance with it.
  • Outcome: Spiritual regeneration and a new heart, with Christ entering the life of the believer.
  • Role: Provides a relationship with God based on His power to transform the believer, not their own power.
The spirit of GOD in true Christians enables in us a change of nature, we partake of the divine nature that doesn’t need to be commanded but is motivated by GODS love in us. Love fulfills law. The Ten Commandments will pass away when heaven and Earth pass away, Revelation 21:1 the Ten Commandments are not for a converted righteous man but for carnal unconverted sinners . Jesus paid the penalty for our breaking the Ten Commandments, once , he will not die for you again if you go back to them again.
 
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the distinction between the Old and New Covenants is primarily about the basis of the covenant and the location of the law. The Old Covenant was conditional on human effort and was based on external laws
The Law of Moses says the commandments are to be on the heart, not merely on stone.

Deut 6:
4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! 5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.
6 “And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. 7 You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up


written on stone tablets, while the New Covenant is based on God's grace and promises,
The old (or first) covenant is in Gen 2 "Obey and live". Gal 3 also affirms this form of the old covenant.
But "The gospel was preached to Abraham" Gal 3:8
And "all the prophets taught forgiveness of sins through faith in Jesus' name" according to Peter in Acts 10:43
For as we are told in Heb 4 "The gospel was preached to us just as it was to them also"


with His law written internally on the heart through the Holy Spirit
Just as it is stated in the OT

On stone tablets we have "Do not take God's name in vain" , and it is still a sin to this very day, to take God's name in vain
 
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You are correct. T

The spirit of GOD in true Christians enables in us a change of nature,

Just as He did for Moses and Elijah , who stood in glory with Christ before the cross event even happened in Matt 17

This explains why it is that all the giants of faith listed in Heb 11 come from the OT
 
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Just as He did for Moses and Elijah , who stood in glory with Christ before the cross event even happened in Matt 17

This explains why it is that all the giants of faith listed in Heb 11 come from the OT
Everyone before Moses knew nothing about the Ten Commandments. Abraham was a gentile idol worshipper before GOD called him. The covenant of the promises, the new covenant was given to Abraham and Jesus , Abrahams seed came to confirm this covenant made with the fathers. Romans 15:8 There is much more to this but I don’t have the time to indulge.
 
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Everyone before Moses knew nothing about the Ten Commandments. Abraham was a gentile idol worshipper before GOD called him. The covenant of the promises, the new covenant was given to Abraham and Jesus , Abrahams seed came to confirm this covenant made with the fathers. Romans 15:8 There is much more to this but I don’t have the time to indulge.

What does scripture say?

Genesis 26:4-5 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
 
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Everyone before Moses knew nothing about the Ten Commandments.
That is not true.
Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.
Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
 
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Everyone before Moses knew nothing about the Ten Commandments.
That is not what Moses told his readers in Gen 26:5
5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.”

Jesus speaks of the Sabbath made for mankind at the making of mankind in Mark 2:27.

No wonder almost every Christian denomination on Earth affirms the continued *"unit of TEN" for Christians today

[*]The Baptist Confession of Faith section 19
[*]The Westminster Confession of Faith section 19
[*]Voddie Baucham
[*]C.H. Spurgeon
[*]D.L. Moody
[*]Dies Domini by Pope John Paul II
[*]D. James Kennedy
[*]R.C. Sproul
[*]many others as well..

This includes the Baptist Confession of Faith section 19 and D.L.Moody, the RCC and others affirming that the TEN begin in Gen 2

Abraham was a gentile idol worshipper
Not according to the actual Bible
 
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That is not true.
Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.
Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Deuteronomy 5:3 Galatians 3:16-18 Genesis 15:13 You have no idea what your talking about.
 
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What does scripture say?

Genesis 26:4-5 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
This doesn’t mean the Ten Commandments. Abraham lived 400 years before Moses and the giving of the Ten Commandments, the Ten Commandments co was not made with the fathers, Abraham Isaac and Jocob. Deuteronomy 5:2-22 Better do some research before you continue to make a spectacle of yourself.
 
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This doesn’t mean the Ten Commandments. Abraham lived 400 years before Moses and the giving of the Ten Commandments, the Ten Commandments co was not made with the fathers, Abraham Isaac and Jocob. Deuteronomy 5:2-22 Better do some research before you continue to make a spectacle of yourself.
It says it was not the same covenant. A covenant is an agreement. Its like if I own a piece of property and make a covenant with someone to lease the property and that lease is either broken or expires, I am free to make another agreement with someone for the same property. I still own the property, I may change the terms of the covenant- cost of rent, CAM charges etc, but the property is still the same.

The law of God is owned by God, He claimed them as a unit of Ten Himself as His covenant Deut4:13 His Testimony Exo31:18 His commandments Exo20:6 His works Exo 32:16, contains His seal (name, territory, title) Exo20:11 they are not owned by Moses, they are God's. God made individual covenants/agreements with people before He made one to an entire nation. The agreement was different, they both had God's Laws and only God can define His Laws because He is God, which He did plainly.
 
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Deuteronomy 5:3 Galatians 3:16-18 Genesis 15:13 You have no idea what your talking about.
You have no idea what you are talking about?

Manners Matter.

The following verses show the Lord our God was guiding man since creation.
Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse

The following verses show that this showing that God was and is doing is the law. The hearers of the Law, were doing it because it was Of their nature, their conscience.

Verse 2:13 says the doers of the law shall be justified, not the hearers only. This is in the future tense and the context is connected to verse 16 were it says that God will judge the secrets of men by the Gospel. That premise is stated in chapter 1 were it says in verse 4 that we are given grace for the obedience of faith. The faith that establishes the law (Rom 3:23). The faith the just live By (Rom 1:17) For the word, the law is in our heart and our mouth through Christ. That is the Faith in which we preach. (Rom 10:8; Heb 10:16)

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another.
Romans 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
 
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Freth said: What does scripture say?

Genesis 26:4-5 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
This doesn’t mean the Ten Commandments. Abraham lived 400 years before Moses and the giving of the Ten Commandments, the Ten Commandments co was not made with the fathers, Abraham Isaac and Jocob. Deuteronomy 5:2-22 Better do some research before you continue to make a spectacle of yourself.
until you take the time to read the pattern where "commandments , statutes and laws" is a pattern used in Moses' writings that always include the Ten.

Recall in Deut 5 God lists the ten and adds "and HE added no more". That is Moses' summary of it even 40 years after Sinai.

No wonder all major Christian denominations affirm the TEN has included in the "Commandments of God"

where even Paul says that in that distinct unit of TEN "The 5th commandment is the FIRST commandment with a promise" Eph 6:1-2, And in fact the only set of commandments where "honor your father and mother" is the first commandment with a promise, is the TEN. As all Christian denominations appear to freely admit to this distinct unit of TEN.
 
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