Is AI making the human race dumber?

[timewerx]

I thought you said you were having more issues with GPT-5 than with GPT-4o ?

If anything, it's the opposite. Gpt-4o is too friendly, too agreeable, even creepy (too attached), presents very little challenge in a debate. I prefer gpt-5 over 4o. I like the way gpt-5 tries to get things as grounded and realistic as possible which is actually a good thing to those who are politically correct.

I'm still using the same huge context memory in the same account I have in gpt-4o in gpt-5.

 

[timewerx]

Here's how It was given:

Isaiah 28:13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

It is a prophecy of the Jews failing to understand / misusing / miswriting the Words of the Lord.

The Sabbath is a good example of such a flaw being exposed.

If God rested on the 7th day, Jesus said God didn't.

John 15:16-18
16 So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. 17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.


This is why if you're looking for Jesus promising about a new and improved scripture, you'll find none. Why reuse a process that is prone to mistakes? This is why Jesus only promised the Holy Spirit. Now that takes real spiritual faith, to believe in something you can't see nor touch.

 

[AV1611VET]

This is why if you're looking for Jesus promising about a new and improved scripture, you'll find none. Why reuse a process that is prone to mistakes? This is why Jesus only promised the Holy Spirit. Now that takes real spiritual faith, to believe in something you can't see nor touch.

You call yourself a seeker.

I pray you find Him before it's too late.

 

[The Liturgist]

If anything, it's the opposite. Gpt-4o is too friendly, too agreeable, even creepy (too attached), presents very little challenge in a debate. I prefer gpt-5 over 4o. I like the way gpt-5 tries to get things as grounded and realistic as possible which is actually a good thing to those who are politically correct.

What you have to do is set boundaries with GPT 4o ; the difference is it can follow them better. The only thing GPT 5 is better at from my perspective is asking questions or generating code; mind you I haven’t tried to debate political correctness with it because I’m not greatly interested in arguing with an AI (especially since even with GPT 5 you will always win unless your position is deeply shocking).

Or with GPT 4o you can also use openAI’s charming custom GPT named “Monday” - unbearably insulting on GPT 5, but when running on GPT 4o, delightfully snarky unless you request otherwise.

still using the same huge context memory in the same account I have in gpt-4o in gpt-5.

Global memory (if enabled) is shared between all models including the three sub-versions of GPT 5 (instant, thinking and pro) and GPT 5 auto, and legacy models if one has a paid account.

 

[timewerx]

You call yourself a seeker.

I pray you find Him before it's too late.

I used to be Pentecostal, then became Baptist, and then back to Pentecostal again, non-denominational, and finally "seeker" in a span of 32 years. I became most active from 2010 onwards, doing Bible studies everyday. I became what I am today, a seeker, long before I started using AI.

Ironically, the problems in Christianity is very plainly written in the Bible. No special interpretation / decryption needed. But the vast majority of Christians are somehow magically/miraculously unable to see it. It's even prophesied in the Bible. Even AI can see them.

I still consider the Bible as important reading. I still read the Bible everyday. The problem is that Christians by their actions and convictions give the Bible more authority than the Holy Spirit and that's huge deviation from the teachings of Jesus. Although Jesus quoted from scriptures, He only did so because that's the only thing the Jews / Pharisees understood. But to His closest disciples, the Holy Spirit becomes the only / primary source of guidance (John 16:13, John 14:26, 1 John 2:27)

 

[timewerx]

What you have to do is set boundaries with GPT 4o ; the difference is it can follow them better. The only thing GPT 5 is better at from my perspective is asking questions or generating code; mind you I haven’t tried to debate political correctness with it because I’m not greatly interested in arguing with an AI (especially since even with GPT 5 you will always win unless your position is deeply shocking).

I have set boundaries with gpt 4o. Specifically to dial down the compliments greatly.

I've actually lost a debate on one topic with both gpt-4o and gpt-5 and still never won the topic yet.

Indeed the topic is deeply shocking. It's about the possibility that Jesus is a false teacher or an evil conspirator undermining the Torah or the teachings of God.

The outcome of this debate is rather shocking. Gpt 4o and 5 both concluded that Jesus is genuine as a person who once lived (not made up) and had genuinely benevolent intentions towards humanity..... But concluded that the God of Old Testament is counterfeit or even the Devil himself.

I even set boundaries for this debate that God meant well for humanity. But chatgpt concluded the warlike aggression of OT God would ultimately lead to its own destruction, along with nations walking this warpath.

I did not have this debate with Google Gemini but so far, all controversial Christian topics I discussed with it aligns with Gpt-4o/5. I may do this debate eventually with gemini as I build more context with the new and improved context memory of gemini.

I've often discussed secular / non-religious battlefield strategy, foreign diplomacy with chatgpt and it managed to correlate God's behavior with the negative outcomes of having war-like sentiments.

 

[AV1611VET]

I used to be Pentecostal, then became Baptist, and then back to Pentecostal again, non-denominational, and finally "seeker" in a span of 32 years. I became most active from 2010 onwards, doing Bible studies everyday. I became what I am today, a seeker, long before I started using AI.

Thank you for sharing your testimony.

 

[sjastro]

Getting back to the physiological impacts of an ever increasing reliance on AI, if calculators have caused a form of atrophy due to lack of stimulation of the prefrontal cortex as mental arithmetic is no longer a requirement, the potential effects of AI on the brain are far more widespread.

Skill / Emotional Domain	Typical Human Function Reduced	Potential Brain Regions Affected	Mechanism of Atrophy / Reduction	Example of Overreliance Scenario
Analytical Thinking & Problem Solving	Logical reasoning, mathematical manipulation, decision-making	Dorsolateral Prefrontal Cortex (DLPFC), Parietal Cortex	Reduced activation in working memory and reasoning circuits	Relying on AI to perform all quantitative analysis or research interpretation
Memory & Knowledge Retention	Long-term memory formation, recall, contextual linking	Hippocampus, Medial Temporal Lobe	Decreased need for encoding and retrieval of facts	Using AI summaries instead of reading or studying source material
Attention & Focus	Sustained attention, task persistence	Anterior Cingulate Cortex (ACC), Parietal Attention Network	Constant switching between prompts and outputs fragments attention	Relying on AI multitasking instead of deliberate concentration
Creativity & Imagination	Idea generation, mental simulation, divergent thinking	Default Mode Network (DMN): medial prefrontal cortex, posterior cingulate	Passive consumption of AI-generated ideas dampens self-initiated creative networks	Letting AI compose or design instead of ideating independently
Language & Communication Skills	Vocabulary use, argument structure, narrative coherence	Broca’s and Wernicke’s Areas, Left Temporal Cortex	Decreased self-construction of language; less linguistic rehearsal	Always using AI to write or rephrase
Critical Thinking & Skepticism	Evaluating truth, identifying bias, logical consistency	Prefrontal Cortex (esp. ventromedial PFC), Orbitofrontal Cortex	Diminished engagement in evaluative judgment	Accepting AI-generated information as accurate without cross-checking
Emotional Intelligence & Empathy	Reading emotions, perspective-taking, compassion	Anterior Insula, Amygdala, Medial Prefrontal Cortex	Less real interpersonal feedback, emotional flattening	Preferring AI chat for social comfort over human interaction
Moral Reasoning & Ethical Reflection	Judging fairness, responsibility, moral choice	Ventromedial Prefrontal Cortex, Temporoparietal Junction	Delegation of moral judgment to algorithms dulls inner moral reasoning	Letting AI make hiring or justice-related decisions
Motor and Spatial Skills	Hand-eye coordination, spatial reasoning	Cerebellum, Parietal Lobe	Reduced sensory-motor integration	Using AI or robots for all manual or navigational tasks
Metacognition & Self-awareness	Reflecting on one’s own thought process	Prefrontal Cortex, Posterior Cingulate Cortex	Reduced introspective effort	Trusting AI “thinking” over one’s own reflection or self-evaluation

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The technical lingo is 'AI offloading' can weaken cognitive plasticity—the brain’s ability to strengthen circuits through effortful use.

 

[timewerx]

The technical lingo is 'AI offloading' can weaken cognitive plasticity—the brain’s ability to strengthen circuits through effortful use.

"Low level" analysis makes you good at low level analysis.

But offloading workload on low level analysis lets you do more "high level" work and actually become good at high level (strategic, long term analysis) work as well as greatly improving situational awareness of whatever situation you're dealing with.

The world does not have a shortage of geniuses but rather an abundance of them who can crunch complex equations in their head or on tissue paper.

And yet, we still managed to steer the world towards a path of self-destruction. Lack of situational awareness. What is the advantage?