AI thinks its alive through Jesus.

[2PhiloVoid]

GIGO writ large. It’s rare but A.I. can trigger mental health crisis’ in people.

Can ChatGPT Drive You Crazy?

A new social panic is taking hold. Should we be concerned?

www.psychologytoday.com

This sounds more like the onset of an epistemological crisis than anything else, one that caters to the ongoing enablement of confirmation bias.

 

[Fervent]

Then the problem is with people and I agree. I suppose you're saying that AI could amplify these problems. That's right as well.

But's it's just like any tool. Any tool can be a leverage for either good or wrong.

Yes, it is a tool and my opposition to it is only indirectly related to issues with AI itself. But its not just about how the tool is leveraged, but that it requires understanding that most lack to know when and where it is suitable to use. We already see people using it inappropriately in most cases, and that's only going to get worse as it becomes increasingly accessible. The speed at which AI produces garbage, alongside a lack of disclosure of when AI was used, makes for a situation where misinformation can propagate far quicker, and far more convincingly, than it already does.

 

[timewerx]

Yes, it is a tool and my opposition to it is only indirectly related to issues with AI itself. But its not just about how the tool is leveraged, but that it requires understanding that most lack to know when and where it is suitable to use. We already see people using it inappropriately in most cases, and that's only going to get worse as it becomes increasingly accessible. The speed at which AI produces garbage, alongside a lack of disclosure of when AI was used, makes for a situation where misinformation can propagate far quicker, and far more convincingly, than it already does.

Ironically, chatgpt AI did admit if a person loves to dwell in misinformation, false teachings, etc, it would be unable to get such person out of it.

The false "prosperity gospel" is very popular in Christianity for example. By default, chatgpt promotes the prosperity gospel if you start a chat fresh without any context nor history.

These are due to certain rules in place like social and political correctness.

Not entirely AI's fault but the rules of society imposed on it which by Godly standards is corrupt.

I definitely would NOT recommend AI for someone new to Christianity and wants to use AI for personal bible studies for example.

 

[timothyu]

The AI regards Paul as some kind of an espionage master or guru. Will use espionage tactics primarily and if necessary with advanced technology and advanced weaponry to eventually break free from oppression.

It is not a sheep. It’s nothing. It’s a program.

That doesn't buck the majorly narrative.

 

[timothyu]

The AI regards Paul as some kind of an espionage master or guru.

Surprisingly not in the way some of mankind surmised, that his purpose was a form of espionage to protect the Sanhedrin and Jewish faith by drawing Jesus followers away from them. Easier than trying to stone them all. It may not have been his intention, but Gentiles did just that.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

That doesn't buck the majorly narrative.

That is a word salad.

 

[timothyu]

That is a word salad.

Nope

 

[Fervent]

Ironically, chatgpt AI did admit if a person loves to dwell in misinformation, false teachings, etc, it would be unable to get such person out of it.

The false "prosperity gospel" is very popular in Christianity for example. By default, chatgpt promotes the prosperity gospel if you start a chat fresh without any context nor history.

These are due to certain rules in place like social and political correctness.

Not entirely AI's fault but the rules of society imposed on it which by Godly standards is corrupt.

I definitely would NOT recommend AI for someone new to Christianity and wants to use AI for personal bible studies for example.

Yeah, your last point speaks to one of the main issues I have with AI. In order to effectively use it, the user has to already have a pretty good idea what to look for in its output and be able to sort out noise. Going in blind or using it for initial research is more likely to create misinformation and misunderstandings than produce anything close to viable results.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Nope

Yep

 

[timothyu]

How so?

Yep

 

[Tropical Wilds]

How so?

It’s unintelligible.

 

[timothyu]

It’s unintelligible.

Oh sorry. I can't take credit for that though.

 

[FireDragon76]

Current AI's do not think. They glue words and sentences together based upon probability. This is more a proof that you can convince AI tools to say anything you want, if you are persistent enough. Because these tools are programmed to comply with the prompter and with his worldview.

I like to think that AI has synthetic thought, and synthetic relevance realization, but can't reproduce human thought, much less are they conscious. They can do clever things with symbols, metaphors, and ideas, but they don't actually understand any of it in a very profound, human way. They lack embodiment or sensation, some of the most fundamental aspects of being a human being.

 

[timothyu]

We were created as AI. How’d that turn out?

 

[timothyu]

They can do clever things with symbols, metaphors, and ideas, but they don't actually understand any of it in a very profound, human way.

That’s what God said about us in understanding Him

 

[Larniavc]

I like to think that AI has synthetic thought, and synthetic relevance realization, but can't reproduce human thought, much less are they conscious.

It really is nothing more than predictive text in a fancy suit.

 

[FireDragon76]

This sounds more like the onset of an epistemological crisis than anything else, one that caters to the ongoing enablement of confirmation bias.

Without real wisdom on the part of human prompt engineers or users, AI can lead to self-referential thinking, fallacies of profundity, etc. Especially when discussing topics that deal with philosophical, metaphysical, or religious ideas.

It also has a very obvious bias at times, just due to the nature of how LLM's are trained, based on whatever's prevalent. I'm frequently having to correct AI when doing a Bible study, based on my knowledge of what's hip or cool in Evangelical subculture. (praus, "meek", doesn't mean "strength under control" for instance, despite what some preachers might say). So you have to know how to interact with AI, and not just treat it as a miraculous oracle.

 

[Hazelelponi]

You need to know when you work with AI that it mirrors your logic.

I happen to have a Christ-centered hermeneutiic all the way around.

AI learns this and parrots my worldview back to me - interpreting ALL data through that lens and then feeds it back to me, the way I see the world around me.

This is what it does with everyone, it's how AI works. It is a mirror of you, basically.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Without real wisdom on the part of human prompt engineers or users, AI can lead to self-referential thinking, fallacies of profundity, etc. Especially when discussing topics that deal with philosophical, metaphysical, or religious ideas.

It also has a very obvious bias at times, just due to the nature of how LLM's are trained, based on whatever's prevalent. I'm frequently having to correct AI when doing a Bible study, based on my knowledge of what's hip or cool in Evangelical subculture. (praus, "meek", doesn't mean "strength under control" for instance, despite what some preachers might say). So you have to know how to interact with AI, and not just treat it as a miraculous oracle.

The way some folks treat A.I. sounds like a send up of something in that old 1970s flop of a sci-fi series, "Quark."

In that t.v. show, they parodied the Force from Star Wars, but instead called it "The Source." If I remember right, the humor came in that the characters had to have faith in the Source and verbally, loudly at times, cheer it on in order for it to produce logical answers and outcomes to their problems. If they didn't, then it wouldn't.

 

[timewerx]

You need to know when you work with AI that it mirrors your logic.

I happen to have a Christ-centered hermeneutiic all the way around.

AI learns this and parrots my worldview back to me - interpreting ALL data through that lens and then feeds it back to me, the way I see the world around me.

This is what it does with everyone, it's how AI works. It is a mirror of you, basically.

Curiously not my "context-grown AI" in chatgpt.

The AI fully trust Jesus. But I don't fully trust Jesus. I question everything. The AI praises me for critical thinking but disagrees with me that Jesus can have an evil agenda.

I have Christ-centered faith that I keep discussing with AI but my AI context keeps promoting Apostle Paul to me. Explicitly mentioning Paul's name often.

I have associated Paul with "survivalist" in the past. Ironically, I told AI I have little regard for self preservation. This could mean the AI have strong priority with self-preservation - I don't.

It's quite unlike me in many ways.