FLAT or ROUND Earth?

[tharkun73]

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I use The Bible to explain the Bible and not outside sources. As many who incorporated a globe earth, planets, outer space, evolution, and other scientific goodies into God's creation. Without no Biblical support.

I suppose you don't wash your hands because scripture doesn't teach germ theory either?

 

[BeyondET]

I suppose you don't wash your hands because scripture doesn't teach germ theory either?

microbiome would definitely be to much for them to handle.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

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I use The Bible to explain the Bible and not outside sources. As many who incorporated a globe earth, planets, outer space, evolution, and other scientific goodies into God's creation. Without no Biblical support.

And that is 100% the definition of circular logic and why using the Bible to support flat earth fails.

 

[David Lamb]

It’s a joke. If something is from the Xth chapter of Jude, it isn’t in the Bible. Kinda like the old boy last week who was “explaining” to me that “The Bible Sez There’ll Be A Global Digital Currency”. He’d obviously got it from 10th Jude.

Thanks. Sorry I didn't get it.

 

[d taylor]

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Humanity can not even make its way back to God, but yet people believe humanity can explore and give accounts of God's creation. What it is and how it came about.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

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Humanity can not even make its way back to God, but yet people believe humanity can explore and give accounts of God's creation. What it is and how it came about.

Yes we can to both, otherwise, what's the point of anything?

 

[d taylor]

Yes we can to both, otherwise, what's the point of anything?

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The point is you are part of creation and are limited in your ability, knowledge and understanding so God advises.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths.

A person can not make their way back to God

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

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The point is you are part of creation and are limited in your knowledge and understanding so God advises.


Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths.

God advises, yes... but poor men like you try to advise AWAY from God's truth in His creation.

 

[Jipsah]

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Humanity can not even make its way back to God, but yet people believe humanity can explore and give accounts of God's creation.

Hmmm... my daughter just made her way to Seoul and back based on man's account of God's Creation of a spherical earth, and navigatinmg based on signals from a device orbiting in the space you claim doesn't exist. Can we be sure that Korea even exists in the world you think God designed? After all, it isn't mentioned in the Bible.

The long and the short of is that the descriptions in Genesis are a cursory (at best) view of Creation, in a poetic form, and based on what an Earthbound observer could see.

What it is

That part we pretty much have nailed. It took orders of magnitude more than the few paragraphs on the subject in the Bible. That should tell you something right there. Once again, Genesis isn't a scientific book. It's a religious book, the purpose of which is to say, in sufficient detail for that purpose, that God Made Everything. You're looking at the advertising brochure for for a 2025 plug-in hybrid car and thinking that it explains everything that the car is made from, how its built, all the parts in it to the last wire and washer. and how they all work. Now expand that by a few zillion times to explain God's creation. Can you not see how ridiculous that is? And to go the rxtent of denying stuff that God has designed and made that's plainly visible to anyone who cares to look because it isn't described in the brochure. "It didn't say nothing about no computers on the engine and transmission talking to each other to control ignition timing and adjusting drive ratios in a CVT transmission in real time in the advertising, so none of that is real." That's simply goofy. (And BTW, modern cars do work like that, believe it or not. Or at least my '24 Hyundai does.)

and how it came about.

Oh yeah. God said "Be!" and everything was. He never took any thought for how everything would fit together and interact, at least in your belief. It just "happened". And if it's just a little serving-tray-and-glass-cover universe, maybe He didn't need to do much planning. But the real universe was designed, in a level of detail that we still haven't fathomed yet, and may never. It's a near-enough infinite Creation for the Infinite God. To deny it an act of hubris.

 

[Jipsah]

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The point is you are part of creation and are limited in your ability, knowledge and understanding so God advises.

I reckon it's OK with God for us to pull our noses out the Book and take take a look at what He actually made.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;

Unless of course you can't understand something God has done, in which case you deny that He did it.

In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths.

If you're willing to pay attention.

A person can not make their way back to God

 

[d taylor]

God advises, yes... but poor men like you try to advise AWAY from God's truth in His creation.

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Every single scientist would be answer-less and shaking in their boots, just like Job.

“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.

 

[Hans Blaster]

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Every single scientist would be answer-less and shaking in their boots, just like Job.

“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.

What are we supposed to be shaking in our boots about?

 

[prodromos]

Every single scientist would be answer-less and shaking in their boots, just like Job.

“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.

Wonderful! Plucking a single verse from Job 38 with no context whatsoever.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

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Every single scientist would be answer-less and shaking in their boots, just like Job.

“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.

So says you, and that's all it is.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Wonderful! Plucking a single verse from Job 38 with no context whatsoever.

I've found that certain posts on this website love to do that. It's worse when they cut verses in half to pretend they've made a point.

 

[Apple Sky]

I've found that certain posts on this website love to do that. It's worse when they cut verses in half to pretend they've made a point.

God's words will never change;

King James Bible
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

God's words will never change;

King James Bible
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away

.... okay. And?

 

[Apple Sky]

.... okay. And?

Therefore every word of Genesis 1 is true.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Therefore every word of Genesis 1 is true.

No, that logic doesn't track at all, especially since just saying that God's word is eternal just means that the truth and divinity of God will not pass away does not mean that Genesis 1 is literal and true.

Your logic is flawed.

 

[Apple Sky]

No, that logic doesn't track at all, especially since just saying that God's word is eternal just means that the truth and divinity of God will not pass away does not mean that Genesis 1 is literal and true.

Your logic is flawed.

You can't get more logic than this;

King James Bible
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.