This is the question I have!

[AV1611VET]

This doesn't explain how fossils of certain animals are found in such a narrow range, does it?

Actually it does.

Drawings on a stretched rubber band will come closer together if you return the rubber band back to its original state.

In the above picture, picture the hand on the left representing dinosaurs, and the hand on the right representing humans.

The rubber band is stretched to a point, with 66 million years between them.

(66 million years is the time considered to be when the dinosaurs went extinct, and man first appeared on the earth.)

Now, simply release the tension on that rubber band, so that the distance between them represents 6000 years -- (not 66 million years) -- and notice how the dinosaurs and humans come much, much closer together.

Coexisting.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why would God, who is creating in His own space, do so in our space with time where days exist only. He isn't restricted to days, He just simply created them and we apply that as if He were limited like we are. When you are talking universe there is no sunrise, sun set. Neither did He create according to time zones. If He created it was total, not following a day around the planet. An age is something else altogether.

Then you have angiosperms existing millions of years before the sun was created.

 

[timothyu]

Re the rubber band: So the 6 days are a compressed jpeg?

 

[AV1611VET]

Re the rubber band: So the 6 days are a compressed jpeg?

Not compressed.

Remember, it was science that stretched the rubber band out.

Moving the decimal point as needed.

If you put it back where it belongs -- (i.e., return it to its state of elastic potential energy) -- it's not hard at all to explain how man and dinosaurs co-existed.

 

[Kylie]

Actually it does.

Drawings on a stretched rubber band will come closer together if you return the rubber band back to its original state.

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In the above picture, picture the hand on the left representing dinosaurs, and the hand on the right representing humans.

The rubber band is stretched to a point, with 66 million years between them.

(66 million years is the time considered to be when the dinosaurs went extinct, and man first appeared on the earth.)

Now, simply release the tension on that rubber band, so that the distance between them represents 6000 years -- (not 66 million years) -- and notice how the dinosaurs and humans come much, much closer together.

Coexisting.

Yeah, but that doesn't really work, does it? Are you suggesting that all the dinosaurs lived and died within such a short period of time?

In any case, your proposed solution still requires evolution, just over a very short period of time.

BTW, Man did not appear 66 million years ago.

 

[Kylie]

Not compressed.

Remember, it was science that stretched the rubber band out.

Moving the decimal point as needed.

If you put it back where it belongs -- (i.e., return it to its state of elastic potential energy) -- it's not hard at all to explain how man and dinosaurs co-existed.

So why don't we ever see human and dinosaur fossils together?

 

[AV1611VET]

So why don't we ever see human and dinosaur fossils together?

We do -- just not intermingled.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

We do -- just not intermingled.

That's a contradictory statement.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's a contradictory statement.

No, it isn't.

Why don't we see kangaroo bones and polar bear bones together?

For the same reason.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No, it isn't.

Why don't we see kangaroo bones and polar bear bones together?

For the same reason.

No, it is a contradictory statement.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, it is a contradictory statement.

Suit yourself.

What then should we expect to see in the fossil record?

Dinosaur bones intermixed with human bones?

Not a foot apart; not ten feet apart; not a mile apart -- intermixed?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Suit yourself.

What then should we expect to see in the fossil record?

Dinosaur bones intermixed with human bones?

Not a foot apart; not ten feet apart; not a mile apart -- intermixed?

That is very much the general consensus reached when people such as yourself say that dinosaurs and humans lived during the Flood. Even if they lived in distinct areas, that wouldn't matter in a global flood since the water would see them all mixed together. Heck, even if it's just a simple act of them being washed away together, with one group living at a higher elevation than them originally, they would still be mixed together.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is very much the general consensus reached when people such as yourself say that dinosaurs and humans lived during the Flood. Even if they lived in distinct areas, that wouldn't matter in a global flood since the water would see them all mixed together. Heck, even if it's just a simple act of them being washed away together, with one group living at a higher elevation than them originally, they would still be mixed together.

What about the years after the Flood?

Why don't we see dinosaur bones intermixed?

According to academia, it's because dinosaurs and humans lived 66 million years apart.

I contend they co-existed, and you wouldn't see them intermixed for obvious reasons.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What about the years after the Flood?

Why don't we see dinosaur bones intermixed?

According to academia, it's because dinosaurs and humans lived 66 million years apart.

I contend they co-existed, and you wouldn't see them intermixed for obvious reasons.

Even in the years after the Flood, you'd still have the same problem. The flood waters would have mixed them all together regardless.

 

[AV1611VET]

Even in the years after the Flood, you'd still have the same problem. The flood waters would have mixed them all together regardless.

What flood waters?

Noah's flood waters?

Where'd those waters go?

And did they take anything with them?

You're desperate to try and not understand, aren't you?

If so, you're doing a good job.

Mightn't it be because your job depends on it?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What flood waters?

Noah's flood waters?

Where'd those waters go?

And did they take anything with them?

You're desperate to try and not understand, aren't you?

If so, you're doing a good job.

Mightn't it be because your job depends on it?

I love how when asked a pertinent question which you can't answer, you default to a strange personal attack.

I work retail. This is nothing more than a time waster for me.

 

[AV1611VET]

I love how when asked a pertinent question which you can't answer, you default to a strange personal attack.

I work retail. This is nothing more than a time waster for me.

Speaking of wasting time, let me say, for the kth time why you won't find Flood debris lying around the earth:

God cleaned the mess up, taking the water and all its "floaties" off the earth.

He did this for safety and sanitary reasons.

So yes -- you're right -- the Flood waters mixed all the human and dinosaur bones together.

But then they left earth for elsewhere.

Something you can't understand.

After the Flood, the dinosaurs went one way, and the humans another.

Yet you insist I should believe they should be found in the fossil record intermixed.

It makes for good academics, but poor theology.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Speaking of wasting time, let me say, for the kth time why you won't find Flood debris lying around the earth:

God cleaned the mess up, taking the water and all its "floaties" off the earth.

He did this for safety and sanitary reasons.

So yes -- you're right -- the Flood waters mixed all the human and dinosaur bones together.

But then they left earth for elsewhere.

Something you can't understand.

After the Flood, the dinosaurs went one way, and the humans another.

Yet you insist I should believe they should be found in the fossil record intermixed.

It makes for good academics, but poor theology.

And all of this is nothing more than a post hoc claim from you to try and mesh science and your reading of the Bible together. It's an example of terrible theology from you.

And the claim of dinosaurs existing at the same time as humans during the Flood leaves us with no reason but to assume that dinosaur bones should be found alongside humans.

Because, in the end and as always, your entire premise does nothing but make God out to be deceptive.

 

[AV1611VET]

Because, in the end and as always, your entire premise does nothing but make God out to be deceptive.

Coming from someone who doesn't understand, and would probably lose his reputation if he tried to, I feel for you.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Coming from someone who doesn't understand, and would probably lose his reputation if he tried to, I feel for you.

What reputation?! Who do you think I am? I'm a nobody, in every sense of the word. I have no reputation to speak of.

Seriously: the entire premise of dinosaurs coexisting with man at the same time as the Noahic Flood only leads to the conclusion that we should find human fossils mixed with dinosaur fossils. We don't find that, in any sense, nor any creatures that we know didn't live with dinosaurs either mixed in with dinosaur fossils.

Simplest solution is often the best one, which means that they didn't live together at the same time. And an even better solution: there was no Flood.