Israel-Hamas Thread II

[Palmfever]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/3-israelis-killed-8-wounded-in-west-bank-terror-shooting-idf-hunting-for-gunmen/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/rocket-volley-from-gaza-lightly-damages-sderot-home-as-attacks-surge/

 

[ralliann]

I have never sympathized with Hamas.

Well you certainly are Not calling them out for what they have caused.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Well you certainly are Not calling them out for what they have caused.

False accusation.

Families of Israeli hostages to file war crimes complaint against Hamas in The Hague​

Over the past four months, lawyers for the Hostages and Missing Families Forum, which is representing the hostages’ relatives, have prepared a legal submission demanding that arrest warrants be issued against the Hamas leadership for the October 7 atrocities.

The complaint will include charges against Hamas leaders of “kidnapping, crimes of sexual violence, torture and other serious allegations,” the forum said in a statement to the press.

ICC prosecutor seeks arrest warrants for Hamas and Israeli government officials​

The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court said Monday that he was seeking arrest warrants against senior officials in the Israel-Gaza conflict, including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Hamas leader Yehiya Sinwar, on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

 

[rjs330]

This isnt going to happen, but I would like to see Israel set up camps inside it's border for women and children only. There it would be a lot easier to get supplies, food and medicinal care rather than into Gaza where Hamas can steal it. Limiting the camp to women and children also prevents Hamas from hiding there as well. No men allowed would help Israel feel safer about it as well.

 

[Philip_B]

Why in the world are these people doing there? It just helps Hamas.

In faithfulness to the commission of Jesus, the Anglican Church has for more than 100 years run Hospitals in the region, to care for the sick and the dying, to uphold the cause of the Gospel, and to proclaim liberty to the captives. Why I might ask would you have a problem with that?!

 

[ralliann]

In faithfulness to the commission of Jesus, the Anglican Church has for more than 100 years run Hospitals in the region, to care for the sick and the dying, to uphold the cause of the Gospel, and to proclaim liberty to the captives. Why I might ask would you have a problem with that?!

They can get out those people out of there.

 

[Philip_B]

They can get out those people out of there.

I am sorry, this sentence does not make sense.

 

[ralliann]

I am sorry, this sentence does not make sense.

Why remain in a war zone?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Why remain in a war zone?

Because it's also an open-air prison, and the best option is thousands in dollars in bribes, which many don't have. Since the attacks, only a few extremely sick children and other humanitarian cases are allowed to cross into Israel, so that way is closed.

What does it take to flee Gaza? Thousands of dollars, paid to an Egyptian broker​

 

[Aryeh Jay]

With friends like Egypt, who needs the Jews?

 

[ralliann]

Because it's also an open-air prison, and the best option is thousands in dollars in bribes, which many don't have. Since the attacks, only a few extremely sick children and other humanitarian cases are allowed to cross into Israel, so that way is closed.

What does it take to flee Gaza? Thousands of dollars, paid to an Egyptian broker​

So it is Egypt killing these people? Israel has opened corridors in the past, I don'rt think it is a prison.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Israel has opened corridors in the past

It is not opening corridors into Israel.

 

[ralliann]

It is not opening corridors into Israel.

It has in the past. And I am sure the Churches could freely bring people out if they wanted to get out.

 

[essentialsaltes]

And I am sure the Churches could freely bring people out if they wanted to get out.

what makes you sure that churches are in charge of Gaza/Israeli exit/entry permits?

 

[ralliann]

what makes you sure that churches are in charge of Gaza/Israeli exit/entry permits?

If it is a prison it is because of Hamas. They could gain it if they were sincere. Israel, has been very good about doing such things. If Israel could it would.

 

[essentialsaltes]

They could gain it if they were sincere. Israel, has been very good about doing such things.

Doesn't look like it.

 

[ralliann]

Doesn't look like it.

What their sincerity? Or Hamas won't let them leave.

 

[Philip_B]

Why remain in a war zone?

I suspect a firm handle on the Theology of the Incarnation might let you answer that question. The Word became flesh and pitched his tent in the midst of us. This is the Church being true to her vocation.

 

[ralliann]

I suspect a firm handle on the Theology of the Incarnation might let you answer that question. The Word became flesh and pitched his tent in the midst of us. This is the Church being true to her vocation.

Makes no sense. Hamas did wicked acts... Will do so again when they have the chance (they said so)
Num 16:23 ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
24 Speak unto the congregation, saying, Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.
25 And Moses rose up and went unto Dathan and Abiram; and the elders of Israel followed him.
26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of theirs, lest ye be consumed in all their sins.

 

[Philip_B]

Makes no sense. Hamas did wicked acts... Will do so again when they have the chance (they said so)
Num 16:23 ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
24 Speak unto the congregation, saying, Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.
25 And Moses rose up and went unto Dathan and Abiram; and the elders of Israel followed him.
26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of theirs, lest ye be consumed in all their sins.

I would have been more interested if you addressed the proposition that was put. We are indeed children of a new covenant.