Again, “perish” does not = suffer! I’m fine with perish/lost my problem is with the defined time (eternal) imposed in to a a word which is undefined by time.
Der Alte said:
”I never said nor implied that perish means suffer.
FYI I am convinced that perish means to cease to exist.
My reply:
Der Alt, have you changed your view/stance on ECT? This above highlighted statement took me by surprise as I am almost positive you were a strong proponent of ECT. If you have repositioned your stance on the fate of unbelievers at the judgment seat of God I am very intrigued indeed. Please, if you are so inclined to do so, develop for me your transition from ECT to your new position.
Good on you if you have, as I am open to hearing about most any form of judgement other than the heinous, demonic inspired doctrine of ECT; it alone is the single most obscene slandering of the Name, character and nature of God and is not found anywhere in the Scripture. If I am wrong in my assessment of your statement then please qualify what you meant or intended to say.
Edited: Der Alte, I also wanted to publicly state my heart towards you. You are my brother in Christ. I love you. Forgive me for the times I responded to you in my flesh with any insults, digs or otherwise. We both know the admonition of Jesus “… by this shall all men know you are my disciples, if you have love one for another.“ If iron sharpens iron my friend, God is using you to hone my course edges and anchor my faith in the One who has loved us ALL so very, very, well …
I want to share a poem I wrote about myself and the influence the Gospel has had in my life.
My Gospel Poem:
An exposure of You is the prayer I’ll become,
not this charade on display but THE WORD ALIVE in me.
You are my Abba Father, The One whom loves me well,
and my life has been framed within the Greatness of Your Name.
My pain and my angst, forged in the fire of your love,
a new name I’ve been given and it‘ mine in You alone.
My life a shard of the explosion of your Grace,
for my wounds in Christ alive have found their resting place.
You are my Shield my exceedingly Great Reward!
You are my Hero, the only one I’ve known.
You are my Hero for you’ve loved me oh so well!
You are my Reward for in You I’ve been made whole.
Though my walk has been a struggle and sin appears to reign,
Your Spirit always rescues me with Grace I cannot explain.
There my shattered nature is reshaped in The Potters Hands,
for what I intended as evil you direct for my good.
My body is breaking down and my soul is wearing thin,
for class is almost over and I’m still struggling from within.
At times my doubts prevail pushing my faith off to the side
and I wonder have I hoped in vain, are you really on my side?
You are my Shield my Exceedingly Great Reward!
You are my Hero, the only one I’ve known.
You are my Hero for you’ve loved me oh so well!
You are my Reward for in You I’ve been made whole.
Living is a process as The WAY unfolds before me,
for every moment of every minute I’m constrained by your love.
Reflecting on my life I can see the trodden path and although regrets are many,
I AM strengthened to forge ahead.
When my final breath is taken and my joy in you complete,
The vail shall be lifted and my heart will take its seat.
For the day my journey closes this song I'll sing for you,
My Alpha and Omega, I AM won and One in You!
You are my Shield my Exceedingly Great Reward!
You are my Hero, the only one I’ve known.
You are my Hero for you’ve loved me oh so well!
You are my Reward for in You I’ve been made whole
Genesis 15:1 ASV
“After these things the word of the Lord came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.”
Galatians 3:8 ASV
“And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all the nations be blessed.”
Blessings upon you and all those you love my brother.
Merks