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The third temple - Should Christians support this initiative ?

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A true Bible-believing Christian knows that the 3rd Temple will be defiled by the AntiChrist.
According to the prophecy of an early saint - Hippolytus - the 3rd Temple will be the AntiChrist's gift to the Jewish people.

These are the end times and, as such, we should be praying for more time so that more people will have an opportunity to be saved and not be eager to see the 3rd Temple built.
"A true bible believing Christian"
I'm only asking for clarification, are you saying that if someone does not agree with your particular eschatological point of view, that they are not a True Christian?
 
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In the light of our discussion - thoughts on this please...

 
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I'm only asking for clarification, are you saying that if someone does not agree with your particular eschatological point of view, that they are not a True Christian?

No, I am saying he does not believe the Bible prophesies (Daniel 9:27 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4) which are pretty clear on this matter.
A true Christian is not infused with complete correct doctrine at the moment of his rebirth!
 
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No, I am saying he does not believe the Bible prophesies (Daniel 9:27 and 2 Thessalonians 2:4) which are pretty clear on this matter.
A true Christian is not infused with complete correct doctrine at the moment of his rebirth!
It’s clear that Daniel 9:27 was fulfilled already.
 
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Yes it can. But if you want the 70 weeks to be more than once, you will have to show your work.
Proverbs 25:2
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

End times is not my gift - can't help there...
 
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Christ is the new temple. When He said He would rebuild the temple in three days, He was referring to himself.

I think a third temple is a waste of time. As far as that goes, without wishing to be offensive, Israel has served its purpose.

What we see today is a political entity and it has no theocratic authority. The Jews themselves are divided over which form Judaism should take (so what's new?).

Amen.
 
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About as much substance as the rumours he's a christian I suppose.
His family is full of Zios and Zio converts. His cabinet is full of Zios, his financing comes largely from Zios. The Zios in Israhell put his face on a coin for Pete's sake. Seems pretty Zio to me.
 
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About as much substance as the rumours he's a christian I suppose.
His family is full of Zios and Zio converts. His cabinet is full of Zios, his financing comes largely from Zios. The Zios in Israhell put his face on a coin for Pete's sake. Seems pretty Zio to me.
Mmmm... for Pete's sake - is that a reference to the Apostle ???
 
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Mmmm... for Pete's sake - is that a reference to the Apostle ???
Ya know, its something my grandparents used to say. Never really delved into the origins of the expression. I rarely say it. Upon further review, it would appear that it became popular around the beginning of the 20th century. And get this; as a euphemistic replacement for none other than Christ. Now I don't know if that's accurate or not, I read it on the internet. But just to be safe, I think I'll be saying "holy cow" or something similar in the future. Thanks. I would have never known had you not asked.
 
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Ya know, its something my grandparents used to say. Never really delved into the origins of the expression. I rarely say it. Upon further review, it would appear that it became popular around the beginning of the 20th century. And get this; as a euphemistic replacement for none other than Christ. Now I don't know if that's accurate or not, I read it on the internet. But just to be safe, I think I'll be saying "holy cow" or something similar in the future. Thanks. I would have never known had you not asked.

'Holy Cow' will offend the Hindu's - safer to let you yes be yes and your no be no...
 
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'Holy Cow' will offend the Hindu's - safer to let you yes be yes and your no be no...
My yes is always yes. My no is always no. Holy Cow is not a vow. It's an exclamation. But I do appreciate the lighthearted banter.
Beats coarse jesting everyday.
 
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Modern Judaism as a religion is anti-Christ.
The Jews are not anti-Messiah. They are anti-Christian. Saul of Tarsis was. Until he met the real Messiah on the road to Demascus.
Yet it seems many believers are drawn towards supporting the building of the third temple as if it will hasten the coming of Jesus.
According to Dan.9:27 it will not be built until the peace treaty is made with many. My question is, why is there peace? It many times happens as a cease-fire of hostilities. What hostilities? The latest of many.. or a battle in which God favors the Jews. Like perhaps the Ezek 38-39 war. I've heard from Hal Lindsey about the Ezek 38-39 war so many times. But there are other Prophecy-End-Times preachers who also talk about it too. Any time that there's a war they begin to postulate that it might escalate to the Ezek... well you get the picture.
I am guessing that when it is built, believers will not only support it but there will be those who will convert to Judaism, failing to discern the true spirit behind it.
Why would Christians be wanting to convert?.. They'd have to denounce Jesus, equivalently blaspheme, in order to be accepted and even then they'll be no more than low-class Noahites in the eyes of the Jews. Paul said that we are supposed to make them envious to live according to the better covenant, not for them to make us envious to live as if there were no better covenant.

If anyone is going to fail to discern the truth behind the events, it will be the Jews. I've recently seen somewhere that one of their rabbi's is expecting Trump to be their way of building the third temple.
So, they are building for themselves a quick acceptance of the pre-anti-Christ (not Trump) person who confirms the previous peace treaty with them, which makes way for them to build their third temple. Which kicks off the 7-year Tribulation.
(It's not Trump because the real anti-christ is not American. And the pre-ac has to represent the aggressive middle east to make the peace treaty., that makes him ethnically and culturally related to them.) All of that means that the rapture will have happened .. the restraint gone.. in order that the pre-ac can come on the scene.
Future temple priests (in regalia) who are descendants of Aaron, recently went to the temple mount and prayed blessing in the Stone which supported the Arc of the Covenant.
The original AotC had been taken by Titus in 70AD. The "Stone" is presumably a recovered remainder after the prior temple was destroyed because the Holy Spirit had departed the temple because so much dishonor had been done by the dishonorable priests of Jesus' day. That Stone is going to need an animal sacrifice cleansing. Which the priests cannot do yet. So their gesture is hopeful but that's about it.
With the likely expulsion of an Arab presence on the mount during the present war, plans for the temple, which are well advanced, will be rapidly implemented.
They've already made all things needed. All they require is an actual frame and build a more stable one over time. That was said by the leader of the Temple Institute some time ago.
Comments welcome.

Jesus is our King and His temple is now believers who are indwelled by Him.
So, again, why would any Christian want to convert to Judaism?

The Jews don't accept Jesus as Messiah or that Jesus now dwells in Christians via the Holy Spirit, so of course they will make a third temple building in hopes that God will be pleased to dwell there.
 
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So, again, why would any Christian want to convert to Judaism?

Well if the spirit behind the temple initiative is anti-christ and we are heading towards the culmination of time, there will be a serious deception afoot and a falling away. I know of folk who converted as a result of being passionately pro-Israel. Maybe ask Trumps daughter? Torah centric 'Christian teaching' is quite strong and the notion that both covenants are active is very appealing. Forget that God ripped the curtain desecrating the previous temple and removed the authority of the priesthood. Make Israel great again.
 
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Here’s the problem. There’s no way to determine who is a descendant of Aaron. Records were lost in AD 70.
There appear to be DNA markers that have been broadly accepted as identifying the Aaron lineage. Jews named Coen or Cohen or Cohan are supposedly representative of that lineage.
 
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I am. All family records were destroyed with the temple.
"Records" is such a Greek/Western thing. Not all of the families were destroyed in 70AD. Paul knew his lineage and undoubtedly many other expats knew their lineages. They didn't rely on some central databank, families wherever they were kept their own records.
 
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