Can marriage ever be a sin if both are Christian

[Stephen3141]

The bible says as it was in the days of Noah they were marrying and giving in marriage and did not know until the flood came and took them all away so it will be when the son of man returns


In the days of Noah marriage was a sin because sons of God married daughters of men that is the non spiritual people


I thought marriage is never a sin if person is Christian as Paul said he who marries has not sinned but such will have trouble in the flesh


But could it be a sin if the other person possibility may not be a true Christian if they are not of similar background to atleast be born in Christian family though it is possible one is a Christian if one is not

What other situations is it a sin ?

But how can it take them by surprise if Christ will come after the tribulation do you think some will not even believe they are in the tribulation because how then can it take them by surprise ?

My dad says when Paul says in the last days people will forbid marriage it means because people will live together without getting married I don’t think however it is necessary to get married and have kids you may not raise in God if one is not spiritual but this means people should not sin and if they do they must repent

I am convinced now that I should not marry because it may not work out my father thought it was good for me though I don’t have to and my grandfather
my dads father told me before he died he wanted me to get married but my father said I don’t have to listen to him if I thought it was good and I was able to do something for the Lord I would think to get married but I think being single is being more profitable for the Lord the barren has more children than one who is married because you should not make people feel they have to get married which being single is maybe more safe and good for some and you don’t know if you will meet one suitable

unless I am convinced being married is good if I meet one suitable I don’t think I should get married

As I mentioned, months ago, this post involves multiple
misunderstandings of the passage about Noah, and the biblical
concept of marriage.

The thread's misunderstandings are so bad, that I will stop
trying to comment on the topics it raises.

 

[mikeforjesus]

They are not all false but thanks for not commenting because I have already established that I don’t agree with you

 

[eleos1954]

The bible says as it was in the days of Noah they were marrying and giving in marriage and did not know until the flood came and took them all away so it will be when the son of man returns


In the days of Noah marriage was a sin because sons of God married daughters of men that is the non spiritual people


I thought marriage is never a sin if person is Christian as Paul said he who marries has not sinned but such will have trouble in the flesh


But could it be a sin if the other person possibility may not be a true Christian if they are not of similar background to atleast be born in Christian family though it is possible one is a Christian if one is not

What other situations is it a sin ?

But how can it take them by surprise if Christ will come after the tribulation do you think some will not even believe they are in the tribulation because how then can it take them by surprise ?

My dad says when Paul says in the last days people will forbid marriage it means because people will live together without getting married I don’t think however it is necessary to get married and have kids you may not raise in God if one is not spiritual but this means people should not sin and if they do they must repent

I am convinced now that I should not marry because it may not work out my father thought it was good for me though I don’t have to and my grandfather
my dads father told me before he died he wanted me to get married but my father said I don’t have to listen to him if I thought it was good and I was able to do something for the Lord I would think to get married but I think being single is being more profitable for the Lord the barren has more children than one who is married because you should not make people feel they have to get married which being single is maybe more safe and good for some and you don’t know if you will meet one suitable

unless I am convinced being married is good if I meet one suitable I don’t think I should get married

It could be a sin .... if one or the other is divorced outside the bible teachings regarding divorce.

The bible says if one has an uncontrollable desire ... they should marry.

1 Corinthians 7:9 says that unmarried people who can't control themselves should marry, and that it's better to marry than to "burn with passion".

Here the principles of marriage are found.

1 Corinthians 7 BSB

Love has it's risks ... there is also nothing wrong with being single.

 

[GenemZ]

The bible says as it was in the days of Noah they were marrying and giving in marriage and did not know until the flood came and took them all away so it will be when the son of man returns

In the days of Noah marriage was a sin because sons of God married daughters of men that is the non spiritual people

There was no Law! Even it were unbelievers marrying believers? There was no forbidding of intermarriage!

Some folks here keep attributing the ways of the Law to a people where there was no Law to know!

If it was not forbidden by Law? No Law given?
God could not impute punishment for what constitute sin for those not having the Law.

For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Romans 5:13​

Don't try to change what that says! .

 

[RDKirk]

There was no Law! Even it were unbelievers marrying believers? There was no forbidding of intermarriage!

Some folks here keep attributing the ways of the Law to a people where there was no Law to know!

If it was not forbidden by Law? No Law given?
God could not impute punishment for what constitute sin for those having the Law.

For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Romans 5:13​

Don't try to change what that says! .

Sin is also not imputed if the law could not be known.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I like Mar Mari but he is wrong if he suggests here going on dates to go to restaurants and places is wrong it is part of having a relationship when dating and not wrong to want to be with someone that marriage is pretty much made to be sin here wanting to feel close to one and that is what you are supposed to do when married to help build closeness. Even Paul said there is difference between married person and virgin that married has to make spouse happy. Paul said all things in this life are yours things present and the world. But maybe he just means if that is all one cares about that one neglects serving God.

But not everyone even is mature enough to know the only essentials of the gospel to be more effective but otherwise should preach what he believes is safest but must be made ready by the church to be effective to have made a tract to be able to present the full gospel as it seems to cover it all even if think to do more to be safe in a presentable way that one can only do so if he is ready by himself to work to make one but one can still serve God by helping needy and helping the church in its needs to help it exist to send others out to do.

Dropbox

 

[mikeforjesus]

Matthew 24:37-39 (AKJV):
"But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Some would like to apply that to others dating now but seems harsh that I dont think God is unfair to allow others to marry and others not but because of being worldly focused only on world and not serving God and living luxury but I am guilty to eat good food often but I dont see why wrong to want to to feel better maybe it means focusing only on such things but not God but I think maybe I should not have as often to be satisfied other times with cheaper food

 

[Diamond72]

I don’t think I should get married

It is better to remain single according to Paul and Jesus.

 

[mikeforjesus]

I am dating a woman now. Jesus does not contradict old testament saying he who finds a wife finds a good thing because as Paul says each has his own gift which though it seems to be referencing self control because of the verses after I think the verses after mean if you have the gift to be called by God to be a servant of gospel then to unmarried should remain as and also self control refers not just to sex but to also to sinning by oneself to lust and self controlled to be spiritually mature knowing gospel well to be effective as servant and such that is suitable and behaving well so that marriage is not a better option which Paul says it is if you have not yet been free from the world to find yourself called by God to be ready as an effective witness that it is evident to all you are ready so that you dont desire rather to live in the world that it is included in burning with passion as you are not yet ready for such a call that it is better to live that way. For I believe christ means if one was specifically called by God christ means it is better to.

 

[mikeforjesus]

The girl I was dating that I still love broke up with me. I think she thought not suitable to date because I did not talk much when dating. And when messaging her I sometimes seems I would not talk that I seemed more interested in time for myself. I was upset but told her I think we are not compatible that you may want someone who will talk more and want to spend all time with you while I had desired to spend time in goals that i was interested to pursue. I decided from now on I will follow the catholic church to be safe though it may not be required and seek the Lord if shows all christians can be saved.

 

[GenemZ]

I am dating a woman now. Jesus does not contradict old testament saying he who finds a wife finds a good thing.....

My pastor always went right to the Hebrew and Greek because too many times how things get translated into English can mislead in how the translator wrote it.

He spent about a half hour on it, showing us how the Hebrew of Proverbs 18:22 lined up differently than what most traditional
thinkers would breeze through without precise analysis.

First, he explained that not everyone who finds a wife has found a good thing.
He then cited the unhappiness he has seen too often in marriages.

Then he offered a more accurate translation, which actually gave me peace of mind...
For the traditional way to translate was actually pushing one to get a wife.

Here is what he presented to us...

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"He who finds a GOOD wife, has found grace from the Lord." ​

That fits with reality.

He always taught us to keep growing in learning Bible doctrine and to not seek a wife.
That God would bring it together in His timing if there is to be a marriage.
That if we keep seeking the Word it would give capacity for life and peace to make us become good in marriage.
Of course... his teaching always had great depth and insight that would make one able to wait upon the Lord.
Weak teachers cause more problems than we need.

Pray for a good pastor teacher first.

 

[ralliann]

The bible says as it was in the days of Noah they were marrying and giving in marriage and did not know until the flood came and took them all away so it will be when the son of man returns


In the days of Noah marriage was a sin because sons of God married daughters of men that is the non spiritual people

Is that it? Perhaps But, could it have been men taking any woman pleasing to them married or unmarried, with or without her fathers consent?

I thought marriage is never a sin if person is Christian as Paul said he who marries has not sinned but such will have trouble in the flesh

Well Abimelech taking Sarah for his wife was sin. The people were known for killing a woman's husband to take them. Even David did this sin.

 

[RDKirk]

It is better to remain single according to Paul and Jesus.

If one has the spiritual gift of celibacy. Otherwise, it is better to marry than to burn with lust.

 

[RDKirk]

The bible says as it was in the days of Noah they were marrying and giving in marriage and did not know until the flood came and took them all away so it will be when the son of man returns


In the days of Noah marriage was a sin because sons of God married daughters of men that is the non spiritual people

For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark...

That is not saying marriage is a sin. That verse (in Matthew and Luke) is saying the people were living their daily lives as normal without a clue of their impending catastrophe. Otherwise, even the act of eating would also be a sin.

 

[GenemZ]

If one has the spiritual gift of celibacy. Otherwise, it is better to marry than to burn with lust.

In that case? "He who has found a good wife, has found grace from the Lord." Will still apply.
Many will be wishing they were single and burning again....

You know how many bad marriages are out their because the relationship was based upon a wave of libido?
Its better to wait, not leap because of lust.

Sign up for the army and that will keep you distracted long enough.
You would then be surprised to find out how much self control God's grace will provide.

amazing!

 

[Diamond72]

If one has the spiritual gift of celibacy. Otherwise, it is better to marry than to burn with lust.

So if you are divorced it is ok to remarry? Paul said you will have problems in the flesh and it is better to remain single. Of course it is not always so easy to be single either. There are married people that want to be single and single people that want to be married.

 

[GenemZ]

So if you are divorced it is ok to remarry? Paul said you will have problems in the flesh and it is better to remain single. Of course it is not always so easy to be single either. There are married people that want to be single and single people that want to be married.

Its not easy either way, if its for the wrong reason.
First seek ye the kingdom of God and his righteousness!

 

[Diamond72]

First seek ye the kingdom of God and his righteousness!

I pray and I ask God to slam the door if it is not His will, purpose and plan for my life.

Proverbs 3:5-6​

Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.

 

[RDKirk]

In that case? "He who has found a good wife, has found grace from the Lord." Will still apply.
Many will be wishing they were single and burning again....

You know how many bad marriages are out their because the relationship was based upon a wave of libido?
Its better to wait, not leap because of lust.

Sign up for the army and that will keep you distracted long enough.
You would then be surprised to find out how much self control God's grace will provide.

amazing!

I do not forget that in those days marriages (Hebrew, Greek, and Roman) were arranged. "The wife of your youth," that is, the one God told a man to be faithful to, would be the marriage his parents arranged.

 

[Diamond72]

I do not forget that in those days marriages (Hebrew, Greek, and Roman) were arranged.

My wife has arranged maybe 6 or 7 marriages.