FBI identifies Trump rally shooter as Thomas Matthew Crooks <--- Thread is about the perpetrator, the crime, and the motivation, not Trump

[Ana the Ist]

That's why I went with probably not the same person, rather than it's not the same person. I just can't see a 20-year-old who registered as a Republican at 18, was bullied for wearing hunting attire to school, and loved guns, as the one that would have donated to Act Blue. It's possible I guess.

People have had mixed statements about him being "bullied at school".

He's white, and from what I can tell middle class. He excelled at school. What part of that doesn't say "progressive"?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Headline: Trump indicted for inciting his own assassination attempt

Ever hear of victim blaming?

I mean...look at how he was dressed, standing in front of podiums, talking about how great he is....

He was practically asking for it lol.

 

[Brihaha]

Yes they are preparing for the coming civil war.

Yeah, a few months before they actually Vote for one! Imagine that lol.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Mr. Grzybek (County Councilmen) briefly met the gunman’s parents last year when he was canvassing for his run. He did not recall the exact conversation, but he remembered they seemed pleasant and were open to hear his platform.
The gunman was a registered Republican, his mother was a Democrat and his father a Libertarian, a fairly typical mix for the area, Mr. Grzybek said.

“You’ve got a large spattering of different backgrounds and ideals, and definitely have a lot of mixed households in Bethel Park,” he said.

Here’s What Is Known About the Suspect Who Tried to Assassinate Trump

Authorities identified the gunman as a 20-year-old man from Bethel Park, Pa., a town about an hour’s drive from the site of the shooting.

www.nytimes.com

That's not a surprise. I grew up in NE Ohio....it's very similar.

 

[Merrill]

How elaborate was it, really?

assassin puts a bullet one inch away from a kill shot on Trump, and you are asking me how the plan was elaborate? lol

I don't even need to explain further about how silly your comment is

 

[Merrill]

Yeah, a few months before they actually Vote for one! Imagine that lol.

so voting for Trump is voting for Civil War?

seriously?

 

[BPPLEE]

so voting for Trump is voting for Civil War?

seriously?

So much for toning down that rhetoric.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Trump and voting for Trump and civil war are not the topic.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

so voting for Trump is voting for Civil War?

seriously?

I seen people on the Conservative right talking about wanting a civil war.

 

[Merrill]

I seen people on the Conservative right talking about wanting a civil war.

and are the conservative right the ones who want to overthrow the US government, the Constitution, and bring in a socialist system?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Sure, keep talking about Trump and civil war and socialism if you want the thread to be shut down.

Thread topic is the crime and the criminal.

Lots of threads already about the partisan bickering. Take it there.

 

[RDKirk]

assassin puts a bullet one inch away from a kill shot on Trump, and you are asking me how the plan was elaborate? lol

I don't even need to explain further about how silly your comment is

These things are rarely elaborate. But people have a need to invent elaborate conspiracy theories around them because they don't want to acknowledge how simple it is to target someone.

Assassinations are rarely difficult...escape afterward is what's difficult.

 

[Brihaha]

Sure, keep talking about Trump and civil war and socialism if you want the thread to be shut down.

Thread topic is the crime and the criminal.

Lots of threads already about the partisan bickering. Take it there.

Apologies my friend. I should not have replied to the guy who mentioned civil war. I was teeing up another reply as well so I thank you for the boundaries. Peace

 

[iluvatar5150]

People have had mixed statements about him being "bullied at school".

In one of these threads, I linked to a comment from a classmate alleging he was bullied a lot. I’ve seen subsequent comments about the person making those claims being kind of a glory hound with a tenuous relationship with the truth. So who knows.

He's white, and from what I can tell middle class. He excelled at school. What part of that doesn't say "progressive"?

Are you calling conservative kids dumb? lol

 

[Merrill]

Apologies my friend. I should not have replied to the guy who mentioned civil war. I was teeing up another reply as well so I thank you for the boundaries. Peace

No one is voting for Civil War (I hope)

 

[Arcangl86]

assassin puts a bullet one inch away from a kill shot on Trump, and you are asking me how the plan was elaborate? lol

Something doesn't need to be elaborate to be successful. He, after the event had started, climbed a building outside the event and fired with a rifle that belonged to his father. He had one lucky shot that grazed Trump, but that was all, and he was dead before getting off more than a small handful of shots. TBH, it wasn't much of a plan, and it looks like he came up with some of it on the spot when he realized there were magnetometers at the really.

 

[rjs330]

understand your point. Mine is that you're sort of blinded by your own experience - you weren't paying enough attention in the 90's (probably because you were what, 8yo?) and, like many folks from what I can gather, weren't aware of how extreme and how popular and influential a lot of this stuff was.

The stuff back then was tame in comparison to today. It was all about small government vs big government, less taxes vs more taxes and heaven forbid, character. Yes rhe moral majority was formed because those conservatives were concerned about the moral decline of the country. But the time was not near as devisive as it became. Why even the Democrats weren't as liberal back then and both parties could work together despite their differences. There were liberal talk show hosts as well, although not very popular and the media was still pretty liberal but not as bad as today.

Stuff really wasn't as extreme as you make it out to be. It was pretty tame. But we did have Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Then there was the great hanging chad incident which started a divisive problem with the Democrats claiming Gore won.

Then came the great 911 hit and America came together at least for a while. The the conspiracies started and Bush was accused of either masterminding the attack or knowing about it before hand.

Then Obama the great divider was elected. And the division has gotten worse and worse since then. Racial division began to really become a thing as Republicans and conservatives were continually accused of being racists and homophones. Bitter clingers to their god and guns. And the names just kept on coming. The tea parties who were all about responsible governement called tea baggers, probes launched by IRS into conservative groups even though Obama wasn't supportive of gay marriage. By the time Obama was done race relations was seen as an all time low. The border was a mess and the names kept coming against conservatives. The main steam media went even further left and conservatives were called baskets of deplorables and their states relegated to flyover states.

Basically, the 80s and 90s were nothing compared to the vitriol accusations and name calling that has gone on since by the left. And the left certainly wasn't innocent in the 80s and 90s either.

And I know you hate Trump. I don't like the man either. But to see today, leftists very upset over the fact that Trump wasn't killed, is enough evidence to how unhinged it has become. Far beyond anything that was going on in the 90s.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

No one is voting for Civil War (I hope)

It's not people voting for it. They want to start a civil war.

 

[rjs330]

"No, if there is no evidence that he acted with anyone else"

not what I said. If no evidence has been found, it doesn't mean he acted alone. It could mean that he took careful steps to cover his tracks

A 20 year-old male in 2024 is very likely to have a social media presence, Internet history, chat history, etc. --for a guy to have NO history is very suspicious

No kidding. Quite frankly I have little trust that the FBI is going to be honest with us about what they discover.

 

[rjs330]

Ever hear of victim blaming?

I mean...look at how he was dressed, standing in front of podiums, talking about how great he is....

He was practically asking for it lol.

Haven't you heard, Trump is the leader of this great movement and this kid really believed in it so much that he decided to assassinate Der Fuhrer.