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I am rather not interested, because my point is not that you cannot find any YEC outside the USA. However, they are not "visible", they are not active in public space, they do not take it to court, to schools etc like in the USA. They are a minority and they know it and behave accordingly.As I have stated at least five times that I'm in Great Britain I'm assuming you're being deliberately obtuse?![]()
Regarding baptists, there are many kinds and they differ from one to another like day and night. Baptists churches are quite a loose organization and a lot of freedom is allowed to the local churches. So you can know some baptists in England teaching the YEC, while you would not find this teaching in another baptist place, maybe even in the same city.
Wrong according to objective reality we live in. And according to the church that repented from their "scientific" mistakes.Wrong according to you!
It seems you are still missing my point regarding the YEC. The modern YEC originated in the USA, is spread to the world from the USA and is found mostly there. Giving me English examples do not change anything, you can find some YEC probably everywhere (as for example the Seventh Days Adventists are found almost everywhere), but its not the mainstream Christian view globally, only in the USA.I have shown you that it isn't. Great Britain has a long and undeniable heritage of believers who taught young earth creationism going back centuries and I have shown you from the bible where this comes from. All you have done is give unsubstantiated assertions and goal post changes.
There are many UK based YEC organisations, for example the Creation Science Movement: About Us - CSM
Here's the profile of an English Creationist speaker whom I have heard talk, Dr David Rosevar from the University of Portsmouth, Chair of the European Creationist Congress. So you see it's far more than an American movement:
As a former Roman Catholic I know that John Paul 2nd caved on the issue and came up with a fudge. The kind of fudge that empties Churches as the Catholic church is experiencing in this country. But I gave you the example of Baptists, I a member of a Baptist Church. We believe YEC, always have believed YEC and have no connection with the United States. Baptist Churches in the UK predate the United States by a hundred and seventy years. How could their beliefs come from a country that didn't yet exist?
I was also a member of a Pentecostal Church for several years, they had several YEC speakers, none from America. So there's another for you.
That's your opinion. We all have one. My opinion is that your opinion honks!
Nevertheless the Lord Jesus Christ said that at the beginning of Creation God made them male and female (Matthew 19:4). This is a direct statement by the Lord Jesus which is not changed by the context. The Lord Jesus clearly believed YEC. You know better than Him now?
Exodus 20:1 'And God spoke all these words'. So did God speak these words, yes or no?
Besides if the idea is 3,000 years old then it definitely did not come from the USA!
Well, you have been clearly proved wrong on that score. YEC is also found in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and has been for centuries. So I would counsel you to stop repeating that erroneous assertion. And bringing up 'flat earth-ism' is just being disingenuous. I have never met anyone who believed in a flat earth. Nor do I believe that. Maybe you believe aliens from the planet Zog built the great pyramid? God Bless You![]()
Regarding the Bible, when some text says that God said something that is wrong, then its the text that is wrong. God cannot err by definition and our reality can be tested. So the weak part is the text. And it costs you nothing regarding Christian faith or regarding the reality.
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