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He's such a lovable rascal!
He's not Biden.

We had President Trump because the Democrats ran Hillary. You can argue that's how Biden was elected. Every time you hear people baffled how Trump has supporters, simply ask "Have you looked at the other candidate?" It's not Trump, it's never been Trump. It's always been who he's running against.
 
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Trump thought poll numbers mean little, too. Ask him what happened.

As to the economy, whenever I hear it's "doing good," I remember the scene in 1984 where Big Brother cut the chocolate ration, and his supporters had a rally thanking him for increasing it.
Don't believe me about the economy. I don't care.
 
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He's not Biden.

We had President Trump because the Democrats ran Hillary. You can argue that's how Biden was elected. Every time you hear people baffled how Trump has supporters, simply ask "Have you looked at the other candidate?" It's not Trump, it's never been Trump. It's always been who he's running against.
You are saying the republicans want a president who is a sexual assaulter, proven liar, fraudster, four times criminally indicted with 91 counts, and adulterer because Biden is running. If you say so....
 
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Delegates are bound to vote for the one they were sent to vote for, at least on the first ballot. After that they can vote for who they really want. It is likely that both Biden and Trump will have enough bound delegates that there will be no need for a second ballot. So unless either Biden or Trump actually drop out they will most likely have locks on their nominations. Because in primary states people will vote for those two characters

Of course you are not forced to vote for either of them. If you do vote for one of them that would be your free choice and ignoring your other options.
I am in GA and will likely NOT vote for Trump in the primary; however I will vote for whomever the Republican is on the final ticket.
 
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Poll numbers mean little. Economy is doing good for Biden and Trump's court cases are going bad for him.
I will admit that the closer in we get the more poll numbers end to mean; but in those polls Biden is not only losing, but also losing in key demographics that democrats usually carry with a comfortable margin.
 
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You are saying the republicans want a president who is a sexual assaulter, proven liar, fraudster, four times criminally indicted with 91 counts, and adulterer because Biden is running. If you say so....
What has Trump been convicted of?
 
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Sexual abuse and defamation.
not what was he found civilly liable for what was he CONVICTED of in CRIMINAL court. There is a BIG difference. One only has the burden of more likely than not the other proof beyond a reasonable doubt. What charges have stuck in criminal court?
 
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It said "indicted" not "convicted". They are not the same.
I am quite aware that they are not the same, but convictions are being found guilty he has been indicted yes. He as been found liable in civil court yes but what has he been CONVICTED of in criminal court?
 
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not what was he found civilly liable for what was he CONVICTED of in CRIMINAL court. There is a BIG difference. One only has the burden of more likely than not the other proof beyond a reasonable doubt. What charges have stuck in criminal court?
Go goal post, GO!
 
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I am quite aware that they are not the same, but convictions are being found guilty he has been indicted yes. He as been found liable in civil court yes but what has he been CONVICTED of in criminal court?

You could try reading the posts you reply to.
 
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Go goal post, GO!
The bar is so low for Trump supporters they're doing the limbo. They can't just see Trump for what he is: a failed human being who completely lacks morals, character or any semblance of humanity. He's just a terrible, terrible person. No, they need actual criminal convictions! And I suspect that won't even actually make a difference.
 
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I am in GA and will likely NOT vote for Trump in the primary; however I will vote for whomever the Republican is on the final ticket.
Trump is very unlikely to win in GA.

He has gained elsewhere, certainly in NEV an AZ, but not in GA.
 
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Trump is very unlikely to win in GA.

He has gained elsewhere, certainly in NEV an AZ, but not in GA.
I have seen where ( according to polls which may or may not be actuate he has gained in GA.) In fact, on one map I looked at that showed the leanings of each state in three shades of red and blue (the darker red or blue the more likely that person was to currently carry the state) GA was actually deeper red than AK of all states.
 
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He's not Biden.
That's true. Biden isn't such a rascal - no Epstein flights nor parties, no insurrection, no claims of absolute immunity.

We had President Trump because the Democrats ran Hillary.
I don't think so. You also had Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and fifteen others to choose from. And you chose Trump.

You can argue that's how Biden was elected. Every time you hear people baffled how Trump has supporters, simply ask "Have you looked at the other candidate?" It's not Trump, it's never been Trump. It's always been who he's running against.
No, Trump has always been about Trump - it is all about the 800 lb gorilla (or orangutan, in this case) in the room.
 
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That's true. Biden isn't such a rascal - no Epstein flights nor parties, no insurrection, no claims of absolute immunity.

I don't think so. You also had Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and fifteen others to choose from. And you chose Trump.


No, Trump has always been about Trump - it is all about the 800 lb gorilla (or orangutan, in this case) in the room.
Yes we chose Trump on the final ballot, but I can promise you that plenty of people chose Trump in the end because the democrats ended up choosing Hillary.
 
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Yes we chose Trump on the final ballot, but I can promise you that plenty of people chose Trump in the end because the democrats ended up choosing Hillary.
Who would you have voted for if the Democratic candidate had been Elisabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders? Would you have voted for either of them or would you have chosen Cruz instead?
 
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Who would you have voted for if the Democratic candidate had been Elisabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders? Would you have voted for either of them or would you have chosen Cruz instead?
If I remember right I chose Cruz in the primary.
 
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