Just for final clarification yes, we evolved from monkeys.

[Blaise N]

Nothing weird in me objecting to your making
up a falsehood about me.
Leaving the falsehood uncorrected is on
your spirit, not mine.

What is weird is your claim that "formal
education" finds evolution "silly".
I don't know if you made that up or are in
a cult. Neither is "formal education".

But sure, drop it, stay in your dream world.

We aren’t in a dream world,we are living in the real reality and you’re in a delusion believing life came from rocks.

 

[AV1611VET]

We aren’t in a dream world,we are living in the real reality and you’re in a delusion believing life came from rocks.

Yup.

Jeremiah 2:27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

We aren’t in a dream world,we are living in the real reality and you’re in a delusion believing life came from rocks.

Except that no-one is making that as a solid claim except for you. Abiogenesis is a scientific hypothesis. It's not a fact or theory. It's basically an idea.

 

[AV1611VET]

Abiogenesis is a scientific hypothesis. It's not a fact or theory. It's basically an idea.

Which came first? the theory or the idea?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Which came first? the theory or the idea?

Nice try...

 

[dlamberth]

We aren’t in a dream world,we are living in the real reality and you’re in a delusion believing life came from rocks.

I'm thinking star dust.

 

[sjastro]

I'd like to go down this line, if it's okay with you:

Post 1376

A pointless exercise as I don't carry emotional or religious baggage as you do on the subject.
It is no big deal for me that Pluto is no longer considered a planet, like Ceres being demoted from a planet to a minor body (asteroid) in the 1850s.

 

[AV1611VET]

It is no big deal for me that Pluto is no longer considered a planet,

That's your prerogative.

But would you sit in -- and participate -- if the ruling body violated its own bylaws and wouldn't let some of the planetary astronomers vote?

Which way would your conscience swing?

 

[Blaise N]

“I'm thinking star dust.”
My friend,Buddhism is idolatry at its finest.

 

[Astrid]

A pointless exercise as I don't carry emotional or religious baggage as you do on the subject.
It is no big deal for me that Pluto is no longer considered a planet, like Ceres being demoted from a planet to a minor body (asteroid) in the 1850s.

Fluffing up nothing is wht a person
does when they've got nothing.

It's an embarrassing display.

Best to stand clear.

 

[AV1611VET]

Best to stand clear.

I'd say that's good advice.

The questions are hitting closer to home now.

 

[AV1611VET]

“I'm thinking star dust.”
My friend,Buddhism is idolatry at its finest.

It's a form of sun worship, isn't it?

 

[Blaise N]

It's a form of sun worship, isn't it?

It’s actually a religion that doesn’t believe in a deity, but nature and the universe,but in hindsight Buddhists simply worship Buddha.

Sun worship is from egyptian mythology where Amun-Ra is worshipped as the highest God of the gods and goddesses and is basically the sun.

If you mean “fire worship” that’s Zoroastrianism

Regardless,all three are false and lead to hell.

 

[Shemjaza]

It’s actually a religion that doesn’t believe in a deity, but nature and the universe,but in hindsight Buddhists simply worship Buddha.

Sun worship is from egyptian mythology where Amun-Ra is worshipped as the highest God of the gods and goddesses and is basically the sun.

If you mean “fire worship” that’s Zoroastrianism

Regardless,all three are false and lead to hell.

Defining religions by their symbolism isn't reasonable.

It's as appropriate to describe Christianity as "sheep worship" due to the lamb symbolism of Revelations.

Also Buddhist don't typically worship Buddha.

 

[sjastro]

That's your prerogative.

But would you sit in -- and participate -- if the ruling body violated its own bylaws and wouldn't let some of the planetary astronomers vote?

Which way would your conscience swing?

I don't live in your make believe world of pathological hatred towards scientists by regurgitating this nonsense to discredit science and has been refuted so many times over the years.
Voting is not compulsory in the IAU for the simple reason astronomy is a vast field where only a small percentage of astronomers do research in celestial mechanics involving planets and therefore would have a reason to vote.

Some planetary scientists being prevented to vote is a fabrication; if you decided to live in the real world and researched what happened, the major complaint was the final vote was taken after many planetary scientists and astronomers had already departed from the conference.
Why would this be deleterious to the vote in keeping Pluto classified as a planet, did they have a propensity of leaving earlier than those who would have voted for the demotion; I don't think so.

The fact is that over 5% of astronomers and planetary scientists voted of the total population which is a statistically large enough sample size to reflect the outcome if everyone voted.
Get over it.

 

[sjastro]

Fluffing up nothing is wht a person
does when they've got nothing.

It's an embarrassing display.

Best to stand clear.

Ordinarily I would but newcomers who may not be aware of AV's background should be given an insight.

 

[dlamberth]

“I'm thinking star dust.”
My friend,Buddhism is idolatry at its finest.

If that's for me, I'm a Lover of God.
I'm not a Buddhist.
Though I am Buddhist friendly.

 

[dlamberth]

It's a form of sun worship, isn't it?

I don't think being aware of the source of the elements that make up the stuff our bodies are made of is sun worship.

 

[AV1611VET]

Voting is not compulsory in the IAU for the simple reason astronomy is a vast field where only a small percentage of astronomers do research in celestial mechanics involving planets and therefore would have a reason to vote.

Some planetary scientists being prevented to vote is a fabrication; if you decided to live in the real world and researched what happened, the major complaint was the final vote was taken after many planetary scientists and astronomers had already departed from the conference.
Why would this be deleterious to the vote in keeping Pluto classified as a planet, did they have a propensity of leaving earlier than those who would have voted for the demotion; I don't think so.

The fact is that over 5% of astronomers and planetary scientists voted of the total population which is a statistically large enough sample size to reflect the outcome if everyone voted.
Get over it.

From a poster that used to post here:

Only four percent of the IAU voted on the controversial demotion of Pluto, and most are not planetary scientists. The vote was conducted in violation of the IAU's own bylaws on the last day of a two-week conference when most attendees already had left. No absentee voting was allowed. Supporters of the demotion resolution violated the IAU's own bylaws by putting this resolution on the General Assembly floor without first vetting it by the proper committee as IAU rules require. Also, many planetary scientists do not belong to the IAU and therefore had no say in this matter. When professional astronomers objecting to the demotion asked for a reopening of the planet debate at the 2009 IAU General Assembly, the IAU leadership adamantly refused. Why would they refuse to reopen a debate unless they were insecure about their stand? Meanwhile, this issue continues to be debated in other venues, such as the 2008 Great Planet Debate, held at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab in August 2008 (which I personally attended), the American Geophysical Union, and the European Geophysical Union.

Also qv:

The Vote To Demote Pluto Was Rigged

 

[Bradskii]

Ordinarily I would but newcomers who may not be aware of AV's background should be given an insight.

I don't think it takes more than a few posts for any newbie to become aware of the problem. There is an easy solution...