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And that's something you've got wrong SW. He had heard of Jesus who was going everywhere healing the sick. Actually Luke's gospel gives the more detailed account. He asked the Jewish elders to plead with Jesus to come to his place believing he'd be willing to heal. Next while Jesus was on his way the Centurion sent servants to tell Jesus that he didn't even have to physically come to his place but....(and then the part you quoted) ---> "Only say the word and my servant will be healed" or you could say he was expressing Jesus ability to heal A CERTAIN WAY.
Sorry SW but aren't you missing the whole point as to why this is even recorded in he text? What is this to tell us the reader in our day? You can't see that it's supposed to be saying to readers to IT IS HE WILL OF GOD to heal the sick and all the sick....as in is any sick among you? I'd encourage you to give this much thought. Show me one time, one time, even just one time where anyone came to Jesus wanting and longing to be healed and he said NO it's not my will to make this happen? Show it to me in Matthew, Mark, Luke or John. I don't think you'll find such a case.
And I believe you've missed it again the way you're looking at this verse. They believe he was able to do it......notice he touched their eyes.....and now according to your faith be it done unto you......according to what faith? According to your faith that you're believing you receive when my hands touch your eyes, or consider it this way ....according to your faith to see yourself with the answer. You believe I'm able now will you believe that you receive it? According to this type of faith you will cause the power of God to effect a cure. Faith is believing you receive when you pray....Mark 11:24 says exactly that.
Peter and John knew they were given authority in the Name of Jesus. They had what we call today the Power of Attorney.....Jesus gave them his name.....the Name of Jesus took the place of the risen Christ. In the name of Jesus there is salvation, in the name of Jesus there IS healing, deliverance and anything that has one bound. I'm not even sure nor can we how much the lame man even knew about Jesus Name
Well you've rejected Isaiah 53: 4 which says,
To suffer what? Sickness and disease? You might want to consider that it's talking about persecution. Jesus said in this world you will suffer tribulation. John 16:33 It's not even talking about sickness and physical disease.
Sorry but you're misapplying the scriptures and not rightly dividing the word of truth. Your trials are not the curse of the law for the Bible says we are redeemed from the curse. Gal 3:13
SW you should have read on.....it's talking about bearing the suffering of persecution nothng more.
Even if one were to argue that's even talking about sickness that would still not mean it's not the perfect will of God for the one to be healed and well. You need to consider that.
Of course. It was the will of God for him to die for us. But you're missing the very thing you should get from the above. Jesus bore that suffering physical affliction paid for by his wounds for it wasn't the will of the Father God that you and I would have to. So how about we not let his suffering on the cross be in vain. How about we appropriate all that his suffering on the cross paid for us. That's not only salvation but also healing. Is 53:4
Yes it was. But in his soverirngty he has a time he was going to do this and we can see why. What else could you call being raised from the dead except healing.
It was the will of God for Lazarus to be make whole. He just had his time for doing it.
A double anointing from God doesn't mean you own it. It's an anointing for service. Fact is we don't know why Elisha died. You can't say that was God's perfect will for that to have happened. The Bible just tells you what occurred.
The water was bad and he told him to drink a wine for it....a little bit of wine sterilizes bad water.....be like telling one today don't hesitate to take a little Pepto bismo . Point is the human body functions a certain way and we need to accommodate and support it to make it work in a proper way.
If it was God's will to heal all, he would heal all. All Christians who go to healing services, ask for pray, confess his name, his power and his ability to heal.
With Lazarus being raised it was not just a sign to Israel. Sure it impacted the nation of Israel but the knowledge of it was to impact Gentiles people's as well as they would come to hear it..
No it doesn't say that. You are reading something into scripture something that isn't there. That is the fallacy of eisegesis. If someone simply asks for healing the most you can conclude is they believe that God is able to give it, not that He will give it. A child can ask their father for candy, knowing that he is certainly able to give it to them, but whether he will or not is a completely different matter. In the vast majority of healings in the NT the sick person only asks for healing. Only once does someone believe they will receive it. So having that level of faith is clearly the exception to the rule. It is not required.
Yes persevere in faith and he said in the text will he find FAITH in the earth. A faith which believes God answers speedily and stand fast in believing he has and does when you pray or in other words God is not like the unjust judge.
There isn't a record of ONE time where one came to Jesus and he refused to heal them. Why should you not think the Centurion would not know about that when he heard about what was going on with Jesus. Again can you show me one time in the gospels where ANYONE came to Jesus where he said he was not willing to heal? Except for an odd case like Lazarus where God was going to raise him up but in a different way.
No, it's not saying that at all. It is saying what is clearly written in the text, "Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean". The clear message is that the only faith needed for healing is to believe that Jesus is able to heal, and that it is conditional upon it being his will...."IF you are willing".
That's not the point. Of course Jesus healed everyone who came to him. He had to prove to everyone that he was from God. The question for our debate is what did those came to him believe. Like the leper they only believed he was able to heal, and that healing was conditional upon it being his will. 1 John 5:14 clearly states that all prayer is conditional upon it being God's will. And I've quoted numerous verses that show it is not always God's will.
Oh come off it. That is really twisting the text. "According to your faith" is clearly referring to the faith referred to in the previous sentence.
What Peter and John knew is irrelevant to our what we are talking about here. The question is what did the lame man believe? It wasn't that he would definitely be healed.
Isaiah 53: 4 does not say that. You are confusing the 2 verses.
Sorry but you're wrong. The verses include all suffering. Not just persecution suffering. Sickness and disease also result in suffering. If it was restricted to just persecution suffering the verses would explicitly say so.
Please do not misrepresent me. I never said that trails were the curse of the law. The trails that God allows us to suffer are not punishment for breaking God's law, they are for our benefit as is clearly stated.
I have no need to consider that, because scripture doesn't say that it is "the perfect will of God for the one to be healed and well" as you claim.
Luke 22:42 says nothing of the sort. And nor does Isaiah 53 (it says we are healed from sin, not physical sickness).
No it wasn't. God did not heal Lazarus from his sickness. He died from it. It was God's will for him to become sick and die so that "the Son of God may be glorified" John 11:4.
Oh yes we do know why Elisha died. It was from a sickness....
I'm afraid you are wrong again. The water was not bad. The Greek verb which translated "drink only water" is ὑδροπότει. Every other known use of this verb in antiquity means to drink only water in the sense of abstaining from wine. Timothy was a teetotaller.
I know he asked, "If you are willing" But the answer to that is meant to be understood for all humanity....I am willing to heal you. If you're wanting to reject that as a universal truth that is meant to apply to you then I guess you'll stay in your place of uncertainty. Others will accept healing as a part of God's ordered grace but just remember no questioning God why God why at some future time when all the time you've set aside you're to believe you receive when you pray. Mk 11:24You've openly said here you won't do that.
I'd say you've overlooked one of the greatest reasons Jesus healed the sick and that it because of God's mercy and compassion. Religious leaders in Christ's day did the same. They created theological frameworks which removed the heart of God out their way of thinking. This would lead them into not even accepting that Jesus should heal on the sabbath day. OK why did Jesus heal the sick. To prove his deity? That's a part of it but don't set aside the heart of God. He healed because of his compassion.
