Are we subject to the Old Covenant today?

[Studyman]

The priesthood hadn't changed yet, had it?

Matt. 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

In my understanding, in the Law and Prophets, a man went to the Priest of God to learn about God, be cleansed, cured, and have their sins forgiven.

Matt. 11: 3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. 28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


also, the "Gospel" is being preached to the poor, while Paul is still persecuting the Church of God.

So I would say, based on the actual Scriptures, and many more, that Jesus was that Prophesied Priest of God, anointed to partake of the Priesthood by a True Levite Priest, John the Baptist. And "from that time" HE is God's Priest. Jesus didn't say, "wait until I am murdered, then come to Me", as "many" who come in Christ's Name, imply in their teaching.

So yes, it seems Jesus the man, was God's Priest, prophesied by Moses and the Prophets.

 

[Gary K]

Matt. 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

In my understanding, in the Law and Prophets, a man went to the Priest of God to learn about God, be cleansed, cured, and have their sins forgiven.

Matt. 11: 3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. 28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


also, the "Gospel" is being preached to the poor, while Paul is still persecuting the Church of God.

So I would say, based on the actual Scriptures, and many more, that Jesus was that Prophesied Priest of God, anointed to partake of the Priesthood by a True Levite Priest, John the Baptist. And "from that time" HE is God's Priest. Jesus didn't say, "wait until I am murdered, then come to Me", as "many" who come in Christ's Name, imply in their teaching.

So yes, it seems Jesus the man, was God's Priest, prophesied by Moses and the Prophets.

The only thing disagree with you on is the idea that the gospel has ever stopped being preached to the poor.

Jas 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

 

[Studyman]

The only thing disagree with you on is the idea that the gospel has ever stopped being preached to the poor.

That isn't my idea at all, at least that wasn't the intent of my post. The Gospel of the Christ of the Bible has been promoted since the very beginning, in my understanding. I posted my comment in regard to the popular religious philosophy of this world, that Paul brought the Gospel of Christ, and that it didn't exist until Paul. (They teach that Jesus was under the Old Covenant) But the Scripture I posted, shows the Gospel being preached before Paul was even converted.

In fact, the Scriptures teach that the same Gospel was given to Israel as well, but they didn't believe. As it is written;

Duet. 32: 18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee. 19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters. 20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

I should have express myself more clearly.

 

[Gary K]

That isn't my idea at all, at least that wasn't the intent of my post. The Gospel of the Christ of the Bible has been promoted since the very beginning, in my understanding. I posted my comment in regard to the popular religious philosophy of this world, that Paul brought the Gospel of Christ, and that it didn't exist until Paul. (They teach that Jesus was under the Old Covenant) But the Scripture I posted, shows the Gospel being preached before Paul was even converted.

In fact, the Scriptures teach that the same Gospel was given to Israel as well, but they didn't believe. As it is written;

Duet. 32: 18 Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful, and hast forgotten God that formed thee. 19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters. 20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

I should have express myself more clearly.

I wasn't putting you down. I should have expressed myself more clearly and thought about editing my post to have it say that my disagreement was only a nitpicking disagreement.

 

[Doran]

The same moral laws that existed under the Old Covenant also exist under the New Covenant -- so then it is still a sin to take God's name in vain - even when Christians do it.

Eph 6:2 "'Honor your father and mother' is the first commandment with a promise" in that still-valid unit of Ten applicable to all people ... Christian or not.

Christ quotes from the Law of Moses in Matt - the two greatest commandments in the Law of Moses
Christ quotes from the Law of Moses in Matt 19
Paul quotes from the Law of Moses in Eph 6:2
Paul quotes from the Law of Moses in Rom 13, and Romans 7
James quotes from the Law of Moses in James 2
...

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In the Rom 2:19-20 and the Gal 3 context - all humans are lost under the Old Covenant "Obey and Live" as Galatians 3 points out.
However as we see in Jer 31:31-33 "New Covenant" all that are saved are saved under the one and only Gospel covenant Gal 1:6-9 as was true of Moses and Elijah in Matt 17 and is true of all the saints still today.

For both groups - it is a sin to take God's name in vain and as 1 John 3:4 points out "Sin is transgression of the LAW" where "'Honor your father and mother' is the first commandment with a promise" in that still-valid unit of Ten

All well and good with all those quotes. But give one scripture wherein Christ, Paul, James or anyone else, for that matter, in the NT specifically commands believers to obey the Law of Moses or the 4th commandment. Get to work and let me know.

 

[Studyman]

I wasn't putting you down. I should have expressed myself more clearly and thought about editing my post to have it say that my disagreement was only a nitpicking disagreement.

I didn't take it that way at all. I love these discussions and welcome honest critique. And it is good to have the opportunity to make sure I am expressing my understanding in a way that people can understand, regardless of agreement or not.

I would much rather you ask, than assume.

 

[Studyman]

All well and good with all those quotes. But give one scripture wherein Christ, Paul, James or anyone else, for that matter, in the NT specifically commands believers to obey the Law of Moses or the 4th commandment. Get to work and let me know.

The Jesus of the Bible said it wouldn't matter, even though Jesus said to "Keep the Commandments", and Paul said to "Keep the Commandments" you would still not be persuaded. I have found this to be undeniably true.

Luke 16: 30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

It appears the Jesus "of the Bible" knew what HE was talking about.

 

[Gary K]

All well and good with all those quotes. But give one scripture wherein Christ, Paul, James or anyone else, for that matter, in the NT specifically commands believers to obey the Law of Moses or the 4th commandment. Get to work and let me know.

I will do better than that. I will give you promises for those who do keep the commandments.

Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

 

[Leaf473]

Matt. 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

In my understanding, in the Law and Prophets, a man went to the Priest of God to learn about God, be cleansed, cured, and have their sins forgiven.

Matt. 11: 3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. 28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.


also, the "Gospel" is being preached to the poor, while Paul is still persecuting the Church of God.

So I would say, based on the actual Scriptures, and many more, that Jesus was that Prophesied Priest of God, anointed to partake of the Priesthood by a True Levite Priest, John the Baptist. And "from that time" HE is God's Priest. Jesus didn't say, "wait until I am murdered, then come to Me", as "many" who come in Christ's Name, imply in their teaching.

Are you saying that the temple system ended when John the Baptist was imprisoned?

So yes, it seems Jesus the man, was God's Priest, prophesied by Moses and the Prophets.

I agree that Jesus is God's priest, but the issue is when the system prescribed by Moses came to an end, such that John the Baptist would not have participated in it.

Jesus encouraged the use of the temple system:

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 8:4 - New American Standard Bible

And Jesus *said to him, “See that you tell no one; but go, show yourself to the priest and present the offering that Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.”

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Studyman]

Are you saying that the temple system ended when John the Baptist was imprisoned?

No, if you were to actually read the scriptures you would find that the Jesus "of the Bible" became officially the Priest of God, according to God's Law, when John the Baptist anointed Him, according to the Law. (That I posted, but you didn't acknowledge)

Matt. 3: 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

As it is also written that I posted, but you didn't consider, "From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Therefore, because HE was from Judah, and not Levi as prescribed by the Levitical Priesthood, we know the "Change in the Priesthood" Covenant promised in Jer. 31, and spoken about in Hebrews 7-10, had already taken place. Jesus was already the Prophesied Priest of God, having proved Himself faithful in all things.

I agree that Jesus is God's priest, but the issue is when the system prescribed by Moses came to an end, such that John the Baptist would not have participated in it.

Matt. 3: 1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 4 And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey. 5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, 6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

I would say the Priesthood "After the Order of Aaron", was already growing old and ready to vanish given that JTB didn't partake in the temple at all. Nor is there any evidence that he was partaking of animal sacrifices or sprinkling blood on the alter in the temple. And he certainly wasn't a fan of the Priests, who came in God's Name, of that time either,

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

Jesus encouraged the use of the temple system:

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 8:4 - New American Standard Bible

And Jesus *said to him, “See that you tell no one; but go, show yourself to the priest and present the offering that Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.”

www.biblegateway.com

This is one of the many cleaver deceptions taught to us by "Many" who come in Christ's Name, of this world's religions were born into.

But Jesus didn't use the old Priesthood "Law of the Leper" to cleanse this Leper. And HE sent this cleansed man to the corrupt Priests, as a "Testimony unto them", not because HE was Promoting the Old Priesthood, but to show them a man cleansed apart from the old Priesthood.

Lev. 14: 11 And the priest that maketh him clean shall present the man that is to be made clean, and those things, before the LORD, at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:

I can imagine this event caused quite a stir given they would most certainly have known of this leper, and now of his cleansing apart from the Levitical Priesthood "Law of the Leper". And who cleansed him? Certainly, a great move on Christ's Part as a "Testimony into them".

This is just another event which confirms that Jesus was God's Priest, and the New covenant defined by God, (Not the one defined by this world's religious men who come in Christ's name) was already in progress before Jesus was murdered. He forgave sins, having not partaken of the sacrificial "Works of the Law" on even one bullock. "The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them" and not once did HE receive a dead animal from the sinner. Truly the "ministration of death" was growing old and ready to vanish.

 

[Leaf473]

No, if you were to actually read the scriptures you would find that the Jesus "of the Bible" became officially the Priest of God, according to God's Law, when John the Baptist anointed Him, according to the Law.

Lots of great points in your post, there.

(That I posted, but you didn't acknowledge)

I'm not going to attempt to acknowledge every single point, it would become unwieldy.

Matt. 3: 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

As it is also written that I posted, but you didn't consider, "From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Therefore, because HE was from Judah, and not Levi as prescribed by the Levitical Priesthood, we know the "Change in the Priesthood" Covenant promised in Jer. 31, and spoken about in Hebrews 7-10, had already taken place. Jesus was already the Prophesied Priest of God, having proved Himself faithful in all things.



Matt. 3: 1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. 4 And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey. 5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan, 6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

I would say the Priesthood "After the Order of Aaron", was already growing old and ready to vanish given that JTB didn't partake in the temple at all. Nor is there any evidence that he was partaking of animal sacrifices or sprinkling blood on the alter in the temple. And he certainly wasn't a fan of the Priests, who came in God's Name, of that time either,

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

This is one of the many cleaver deceptions taught to us by "Many" who come in Christ's Name, of this world's religions were born into.

Well, it's a scripture passage. You can interpret it in a deceptive fashion, sure.

But Jesus didn't use the old Priesthood "Law of the Leper" to cleanse this Leper. And HE sent this cleansed man to the corrupt Priests, as a "Testimony unto them", not because HE was Promoting the Old Priesthood, but to show them a man cleansed apart from the old Priesthood.

A possible interpretation, certainly not the only one.

Lev. 14: 11 And the priest that maketh him clean shall present the man that is to be made clean, and those things, before the LORD, at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation:

I can imagine this event caused quite a stir given they would most certainly have known of this leper, and now of his cleansing apart from the Levitical Priesthood "Law of the Leper". And who cleansed him? Certainly, a great move on Christ's Part as a "Testimony into them".

This is just another event which confirms that Jesus was God's Priest, and the New covenant defined by God, (Not the one defined by this world's religious men who come in Christ's name) was already in progress before Jesus was murdered. He forgave sins, having not partaken of the sacrificial "Works of the Law" on even one bullock. "The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them" and not once did HE receive a dead animal from the sinner. Truly the "ministration of death" was growing old and ready to vanish.

So... The New Covenant started when Jesus was baptized? I disagree. John still refers to Caiaphas in the legitimate role as high priest.

Bible Gateway passage: John 11:51 - New American Standard Bible

Now he did not say this on his own, but as he was high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus was going to die for the nation;

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Studyman]

Lots of great points in your post, there.

I'm not going to attempt to acknowledge every single point, it would become unwieldy.

I only posted about 5 Scriptures which bring question to the religious philosophy you are promoting. Perhaps if you were as interested in Biblical Truth as you are in justifying your own religious philosophy, we could benefit from such a discussion and actually examine the Scriptures posted, as I do those scriptures you post.

Well, it's a scripture passage. You can interpret it in a deceptive fashion, sure.

But it means something. I explained what it means, according to Scriptures. You, once again, refused to even acknowledge the Scriptures I posted, that brings me the understanding I am sharing. Isn't that kind of deceptive?

A possible interpretation, certainly not the only one.

Yes, there is your interpretation as well. One in which much of the bible must not be considered, and many of the Words of the Christ Himself, must be ignored.

I have seen this interpretation before, but I don't believe the Christ of the Bible wants me to cherry pick Scriptures, and certainly not just to justify some religious philosophy I heard somewhere and adopted. There is one true interpretation. Jesus was either God's Priest on earth, or HE wasn't. You are trying to persuade others that HE wasn't. The Scriptures I post, show that HE was. It's really quite simple.

So... The New Covenant started when Jesus was baptized? I disagree. John still refers to Caiaphas in the legitimate role as high priest.

Bible Gateway passage: John 11:51 - New American Standard Bible

Now he did not say this on his own, but as he was high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus was going to die for the nation;

www.biblegateway.com

Truly the Pharisees, the children of the devil as Jesus called them, didn't believe Jesus was their High Priest, just as you don't believe Jesus was their High Priest. So there is no argument from me, that the Pharisees with their appointed high priest, continued in their version of the Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" for the remission of man's sins then, as well as after they murdered Jesus, and continued promoting this same Priesthood Law in Paul's Time, and in fact continue in many religious factions to this day.

You call Caiaphus a "Legitimate High Priest" of God. Even after the Jesus of the Bible tells you about them;

Luke 13: 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Matt. 23: 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Even JTB knew who they were.

Matt. 3: 7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

But you preach they were "Legitimate Priests".

My issue with the religions of this world, and their philosophies you promote, is because to stand they must ignore much of the Christ's Words. If you don't know this, then it is good that someone bring up these prudent points for the benefit of the brethren. But if you know this already, and don't care, then these discussions will go in circles, and achieve nothing.

It is clear we are going in circles.

 

[Leaf473]

I only posted about 5 Scriptures which bring question to the religious philosophy you are promoting. Perhaps if you were as interested in Biblical Truth as you are in justifying your own religious philosophy, we could benefit from such a discussion and actually examine the Scriptures posted, as I do those scriptures you post.




But it means something. I explained what it means, according to Scriptures. You, once again, refused to even acknowledge the Scriptures I posted, that brings me the understanding I am sharing. Isn't that kind of deceptive?



Yes, there is your interpretation as well. One in which much of the bible must not be considered, and many of the Words of the Christ Himself, must be ignored.

I have seen this interpretation before, but I don't believe the Christ of the Bible wants me to cherry pick Scriptures, and certainly not just to justify some religious philosophy I heard somewhere and adopted. There is one true interpretation. Jesus was either God's Priest on earth, or HE wasn't. You are trying to persuade others that HE wasn't. The Scriptures I post, show that HE was. It's really quite simple.



Truly the Pharisees, the children of the devil as Jesus called them, didn't believe Jesus was their High Priest, just as you don't believe Jesus was their High Priest. So there is no argument from me, that the Pharisees with their appointed high priest, continued in their version of the Levitical Priesthood "works of the Law" for the remission of man's sins then, as well as after they murdered Jesus, and continued promoting this same Priesthood Law in Paul's Time, and in fact continue in many religious factions to this day.

You call Caiaphus a "Legitimate High Priest" of God. Even after the Jesus of the Bible tells you about them;

Luke 13: 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

Matt. 23: 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Even JTB knew who they were.

Matt. 3: 7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

But you preach they were "Legitimate Priests".

My issue with the religions of this world, and their philosophies you promote, is because to stand they must ignore much of the Christ's Words. If you don't know this, then it is good that someone bring up these prudent points for the benefit of the brethren. But if you know this already, and don't care, then these discussions will go in circles, and achieve nothing.

It is clear we are going in circles.

Once again, lots of great points in your post. If it's important to you that I address them all, please pick out the one you'd like me to talk about first

A random proverb

Bible Gateway passage: Proverbs 12:2 - New International Reader's Version

The LORD blesses anyone who does good. But he judges anyone who plans to do evil.

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Guojing]

Christ is the Ark. We who are His have entered into Him and He in us.

So, whatever the reason, you are saying you don't follow Genesis 6:14, which is precisely my point. You are a dispensationalist as well.

Same regarding sacrificing animals for your sins, as Christ is the final sacrifice etc.

 

[Gary K]

So, whatever the reason, you are saying you don't follow Genesis 6:14, which is precisely my point. You are a dispensationalist as well.

Same regarding sacrificing animals for your sins, as Christ is the final sacrifice etc.

I don't think you understand what a dispensationalist is. I've interacted with a lot of them over the years and HIM is not a dispensationalist in any way shape or form. You want to see dispensationalism in action go to theologyonline.com and you'll see it as almost everyone there is a dispensationalist, of the MAD variety.

 

[Guojing]

I don't think you understand what a dispensationalist is. I've interacted with a lot of them over the years and HIM is not a dispensationalist in any way shape or form. You want to see dispensationalism in action go to theologyonline.com and you'll see it as almost everyone there is a dispensationalist, of the MAD variety.

I am using the simplest definition of a dispensationalist: one that recognizes that not all scripture instructions in the bible are written TO them, even though all scripture is written FOR them.

 

[Gary K]

I am using the simplest definition of a dispensationalist: one that recognizes that not all scripture instructions in the bible are written TO them, even though all scripture is written FOR them.

I'm sorry but HIM is no dispensationalist. All scripture is written to us upon whom the ends of the world are come.

 

[Guojing]

I'm sorry but HIM is no dispensationalist. All scripture is written to us upon whom the ends of the world are come.

But you don't follow the instructions to build an ark to or sacrifice animals today, so how can those be written TO you?

 

[Gary K]

But you don't follow the instructions to build an ark to or sacrifice animals today, so how can those be written TO you?

I was quoting Paul. Everything in the Bible is written for us for all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. Why? So the man of God can be perfected and thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

 

[Guojing]

I was quoting Paul. Everything in the Bible is written for us for all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. Why? So the man of God can be perfected and thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

But you don't build an ark nor sacrifice animals for your sins, so you clearly understand what my point is. =)