Non believers on a Christian forum

[returntosender]

I'm just trying to understand. Not a judgement on any of you. Why would you want to be in a Christian forum? It would be nice if you're on the fence and you might fall over to our side. Hopefully to learn about Jesus. I've talked to a few and they made no bones about their hatred, one was converting people to his side. What about you?

 

[Desk trauma]

Why would you want to be in a Christian forum?

To encounter viewpoints different from my own.

 

[d taylor]

I'm just trying to understand. Not a judgement on any of you. Why would you want to be in a Christian forum? It would be nice if you're on the fence and you might fall over to our side. Hopefully to learn about Jesus. I've talked to a few and they made no bones about their hatred, one was converting to his side. What about you?

What do you mean by "one was converting to his side"

 

[returntosender]

What do you mean by "one was converting to his side"

I corrected it. He spent a lot of time asking questions to weaken your stand on God and Jesus

 

[returntosender]

No matter your answer he was always prepared.

 

[Gene2memE]

A number of reasons

I like being exposed to opposing viewpoints. I'm a former Catholic and have small 'l' liberal views, as do most of my immediately family, friends and colleagues. In my day to day life, I don't get to interact with anything remotely like some of the viewpoints expressed here.
I like debating, and it's less fun debating people who you largely agree with.
The wrongness of some of the sets of claims here gets me researching in my spare time (everything from economics to paleontology, ontology and climatology) and checking my own assumptions, so I learn a lot on my own.
I learn a lot from some of the other posters her. There are lots of specalists in lots of fields where I have no education or experience.
Sometimes, I come on here to blow off a little steam and be snarky

 

[Servus]

Some atheists I know were former Christians. And virtually all of them talk more about Christianity than most Christians. So there's a really obvious preoccupation involved. The ones who have had my ear, like my sibling, whether intentionally or not, are trying to get me to see the error of being a Christian like they have.

There are some atheists, agnostics, whatever here who trash Christians and Christianity pretty vitrolically.

 

[Occams Barber]

I'm just trying to understand. Not a judgement on any of you. Why would you want to be in a Christian forum? It would be nice if you're on the fence and you might fall over to our side. Hopefully to learn about Jesus. I've talked to a few and they made no bones about their hatred, one was converting people to his side. What about you?

This is a question I (we) get asked regularly.

I've never been a Christian and, although I've come across the odd Christian, openly Christian people aren't that common in Australia. I'd always seen Christians as relatively harmless until the Creation/Evolution Wars began to warm up (in the US) a few decades back. I can recall reading Dover vs Kitzmiller transcripts back in the early 2000s and being shocked by the level of ignorance on the Creationist side along with the demands that an obvious scientific untruth should be taught in schools. At that time, I saw Christianity as a dangerous enemy of truth but basically run by good, if uninformed, people.

After joining a couple of desultory Christian based Australian Forums I joined CF in 2012 - to get a better understanding of Christianity. I still don't understand Christianity, but I've come to realise that what I need is a better understanding of Christians and why they believe what they believe.

OB

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

Christianity as a dangerous enemy of truth

You're entitled to your opinion, however contrary it may be.

"I am the way and the truth and the life."
-Jesus

 

[Robban]

I'm just trying to understand. Not a judgement on any of you. Why would you want to be in a Christian forum? It would be nice if you're on the fence and you might fall over to our side. Hopefully to learn about Jesus. I've talked to a few and they made no bones about their hatred, one was converting people to his side. What about you?

Strolling around a marketplace with no intention of buying anything can be an

intresting passtime.

 

[Occams Barber]

"I am the way and the truth and the life."
-Jesus

As an atheist my response would be:

What does this mean?

To a non-Christian materialist like me, Christian jargon/truisms have no meaning. If you are going to respond, at least do me the courtesy of making sensible statements which have meaning outside of your Christian bubble.

OB

 

[Servus]

What I find amusing is those who get bent out of shape over christians expressing christian morals and standards and quoting from the bible in a place called christian forums.

 

[Occams Barber]

What I find amusing is those who get bent out of shape over christians expressing christian morals and standards and quoting from the bible in a place called christian forums.

The key part of my statement was " if you are going to respond (to me)".

Christians are free to use Christian jargon expressing Christian morals on a Christian Forum. In this case the reply was specifically directed to me - a non-Christian and was phrased in cryptic Christianese. This is something I see regularly on CF where Christians, replying to non-Christians, drop vague Christian truisms. Apart from not providing a sensible response, these sayings act as shield protecting Christians from providing sensible, justified answers.

OB

 

[Servus]

The key part of my statement was " if you are going to respond (to me)".

Christians are free to use Christian jargon expressing Christian morals on a Christian Forum. In this case the reply was specifically directed to me - a non-Christian and was phrased in cryptic Christianese. This is something I see regularly on CF where Christians, replying to non-Christians, drop vague Christian truisms. Apart from not providing a sensible response, these sayings act as shield protecting Christians from providing sensible, justified answers.

OB

I wasn't replying to you, I was speaking in general. What I said is what I've said in the past.

 

[Blade]

I'm just trying to understand. Not a judgement on any of you. Why would you want to be in a Christian forum? It would be nice if you're on the fence and you might fall over to our side. Hopefully to learn about Jesus. I've talked to a few and they made no bones about their hatred, one was converting people to his side. What about you?

You have a great question. Unless I click on it I would not know hear read Jesus died for me. Most I see are in politics yet no one shares Christ.. so I have been doing it in every post.. no matter the cost. I've been here over 20y and it has changed allot..

 

[returntosender]

Some atheists I know were former Christians. And virtually all of them talk more about Christianity than most Christians. So there's a really obvious preoccupation involved. The ones who have had my ear, like my sibling, whether intentionally or not, are trying to get me to see the error of being a Christian like they have.

There are some atheists, agnostics, whatever here who trash Christians and Christianity pretty vitrolically.

That's to bad,

 

[returntosender]

What I find amusing is those who get bent out of shape over christians expressing christian morals and standards and quoting from the bible in a place called christian forums.

lol

You have a great question. Unless I click on it I would not know hear read Jesus died for me. Most I see are in politics yet no one shares Christ.. so I have been doing it in every post.. no matter the cost. I've been here over 20y and it has changed allot..

Bravo!

 

[d taylor]

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Many atheist from the science faith. Come here to debate Biblical creation, too bad many christians play the science game. By trying to prove creation by using science along with the occasional Bible reference.

 

[Occams Barber]

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Many atheist from the science faith. Come here to debate Biblical creation, too bad many christians play the science game. By trying to prove creation by using science along with the occasional Bible reference.

In eleven years on CF I have yet to see anyone come close to proving Creation.

Evolution is not an atheist plot. It was identified by Christians (Darwin and Wallace) and is accepted as science by many Christians and Christian denominations.

OB

 

[returntosender]

1. Me A
2. EesOne who denies the existence of God, or of a supreme intelligent being.
3. A godless man; one who disregards his duty to God.
4. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.

The Century Dictionary.

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The key part of my statement was " if you are going to respond (to me)".

Christians are free to use Christian jargon expressing Christian morals on a Christian Forum. In this case the reply was specifically directed to me - a non-Christian and was phrased in cryptic Christianese. This is something I see regularly on CF where Christians, replying to non-Christians, drop vague Christian truisms. Apart from not providing a sensible response, these sayings act as shield protecting Christians from providing sensible, justified answers.

OB

Ob, i detect an attitude in your responses. Sorry if i hit a nerve.