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Why did McCarthy Give Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access to J6 Footage?

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Go back and read all those CNN articles detailing insider information from the Trump raids.

Notice they come from "a source close to the investigation".

Democrats already do this. It's not news. McCarthy gave some footage to Fox News....so what? You can literally tour the Capitol. I don't see what secret security information is going to be revealed.
Yep, it's been going on for years. One of the guys that has been sitting in jail, his attorney was on Carlson tonight. They requsted the footage which Carlson showed. It was denied him for trial. His rights were violated if that's the case. this is serious stuff which everyone should care about.
Facebook is still at it. the clips were posted, and facebook banned it. The footage showed no violence, he was being escorted around by the police. Nothing at all like we all were told.
 
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That’s not exactly true and please don’t tell me you think CNN is not biased.
What is not exactly true?

Of course they are biased. Every human enterprise in existence is biased because humans all come with a bias. Bias is not the same as inaccurate nor does it mean they are not a useful news source (Though I have never watched them. I prefer to read).
 
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What is not exactly true?

Of course they are biased. Every human enterprise in existence is biased because humans all come with a bias. Bias is not the same as inaccurate nor does it mean they are not a useful news source (Though I have never watched them. I prefer to read).
LOL
 
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No, I have not been ok with what went on before with the fbi, doj, etc.We have not gotten all the information in the past. It has been the woke that were ok with it.
I do not find you a credible voice to speak for the "woke".

So if you are not OK with it you find this distribtion to an intermediary instead of being released to anyone OK? It certainly seems that way from your statements.

So, now that more information is available is a good thing. I want to see all there is to see. That has not occurred for a very long time so let it flow.
It is not occuring now. This was not released to anyone who asked for it.
 
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It may have been helpful at his sentencing but from what I understand he pled guilty. The video tells a different story than what we have been told about him the last two years though
Yes, many took a plea rather than be jailed for ten years. It is the duty of a prosecutor to provide all evidence that may be helpful in even a small way to a defendant. Failure to do so is misconduct. There were plenty of attorneys on the select committee who decided to conceal the evidence.
 
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I do not find you a credible voice to speak for the "woke".

So if you are not OK with it you find this distribtion to an intermediary instead of being released to anyone OK? It certainly seems that way from your statements.


It is not occuring now. This was not released to anyone who asked for it.
You don't find me a credible source. End of conversation.
 
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Yep, it's been going on for years. One of the guys that has been sitting in jail, his attorney was on Carlson tonight. They requsted the footage which Carlson showed. It was denied him for trial. His rights were violated if that's the case. this is serious stuff which everyone should care about.
Facebook is still at it. the clips were posted, and facebook banned it. The footage showed no violence, he was being escorted around by the police. Nothing at all like we all were told.
The members of the select committee should be held accountable.
 
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Mental illness happens to many and in many families The shaman was diagnosed fifteen years ago. It was a violation of our U.S. Constitution to withhold exculpatory evidence from his defense attorney and the judge. T

The court held his case so that he could be evaluated. Any sentence would have taken his mental state into account. But his lawyer said something with which I tend to agree: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...7b4530-ba57-11eb-a6b1-81296da0339b_story.html

'Watkins this week told Talking Points Memo that his client and many others were vulnerable to believing false claims about election fraud from former president Donald Trump.

“These are people with brain damage. . . . These aren’t bad people,” Watkins said.


He said it, not me. It was part of his defence. He thinks that people who believe claims about election fraud have brain damage. You won't get an argument from me on that.
 
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The court held his case so that he could be evaluated. Any sentence would have taken his mental state into account. But his lawyer said something with which I tend to agree: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...7b4530-ba57-11eb-a6b1-81296da0339b_story.html

'Watkins this week told Talking Points Memo that his client and many others were vulnerable to believing false claims about election fraud from former president Donald Trump.

“These are people with brain damage. . . . These aren’t bad people,” Watkins said.


He said it, not me. It was part of his defence. He thinks that people who believe claims about election fraud have brain damage. You won't get an argument from me on that.
To quote a famous American: "...some, I assume, are good people."
 
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The court held his case so that he could be evaluated. Any sentence would have taken his mental state into account. But his lawyer said something with which I tend to agree: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...7b4530-ba57-11eb-a6b1-81296da0339b_story.html

'Watkins this week told Talking Points Memo that his client and many others were vulnerable to believing false claims about election fraud from former president Donald Trump.

“These are people with brain damage. . . . These aren’t bad people,” Watkins said.


He said it, not me. It was part of his defence. He thinks that people who believe claims about election fraud have brain damage. You won't get an argument from me on that.
The Constitution was violated by withholding evidence. And the select committee conned the American people. No wonder so many are fighting the public release of all of the recordings.
 
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The footage of the Capitol police leading the shaman and accompanying him around was disturbing--a completely different picture than the Democrats/media had painted. If he did not have access to the film footage he should get a new trial based on the withholding of evidence. And we need to know why in the world the Capitol police were they walking around with him from place to place. As I always say, transparency and accountability are keys to good government. Take a good and long look at the ones who are claiming national security will be compromised by releasing the footage, that is baloney.
The irony of you posting this just minutes after @Hans Blaster posted the actual timeline of Chensley's time in the building and debunking of Tucker's bodus narrative is priceless.
 
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The Constitution was violated by withholding evidence.

He admitted to what he did. He pleaded guilty to it. No evidence to have it proved was needed. So nothing was withheld.

As to his mental health, which might have affected his sentence (for what he admitted doing), his attorney requested he be assessed and his case was held until that happened. I linked to that. You have that information. That was the exculpatory evidence. Requested by his attorney and granted by the court.

You are just making stuff up now...
 
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The irony of you posting this just minutes after @Hans Blaster posted the actual timeline of Chensley's time in the building and debunking of Tucker's bodus narrative is priceless.
As I've said before I'm not a Tucker fan. I saw the footage for myself, I want to know what the Capitol police were doing ushering the guy around throughout the Capitol and why the recording was withheld from the defense attorney and judge. That is a violation of the U.S. Constitution. Those attorneys on the select committee knew better and they need to be held accountable.
 
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As I've said before I'm not a Tucker fan. I saw the footage for myself, I want to know what the Capitol police were doing ushering the guy around throughout the Capitol and why the recording was withheld from the defense attorney and judge. That is a violation of the U.S. Constitution. Those attorneys on the select committee knew better and they need to be held accountable.

Good grief...

He admitted what he did. He pleaded guilty. There was therefore no need to look for any evidence showing that he didn't do what He already admitted doing. You can't present evidence that suggests he was innocent if he already agreed that he was guilty. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

If someone admits to beating his wife to death with a brick, then cct footage of him having a laugh and a joke with her an hour before he beat her brains out isn't going to be needed, won't be presented and would be irrelevant if it was.

If he pleaded innocent you might have a case. He didn't. So you don't.

Is. That. Clear?
 
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The court held his case so that he could be evaluated. Any sentence would have taken his mental state into account. But his lawyer said something with which I tend to agree: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...7b4530-ba57-11eb-a6b1-81296da0339b_story.html

'Watkins this week told Talking Points Memo that his client and many others were vulnerable to believing false claims about election fraud from former president Donald Trump.

“These are people with brain damage. . . . These aren’t bad people,” Watkins said.


He said it, not me. It was part of his defence. He thinks that people who believe claims about election fraud have brain damage. You won't get an argument from me on that.
Brain damage or not, there was nothing in the footage to be in jail for. They were denied the footage. The first time him and his attorney seen it was through Carlson.
 
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Mental illness happens to many and in many families The shaman was diagnosed fifteen years ago. It was a violation of our U.S. Constitution to withhold exculpatory evidence from his defense attorney and the judge. T
His attorney spoke of his mental illness.
He said he was highly intelligent, and gentle.
 
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Good grief...

He admitted what he did. He pleaded guilty. There was therefore no need to look for any evidence showing that he didn't do what He already admitted doing. You can't present evidence that suggests he was innocent if he already agreed that he was guilty. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

If someone admits to beating his wife to death with a brick, then cct footage of him having a laugh and a joke with her an hour before he beat her brains out isn't going to be needed, won't be presented and would be irrelevant if it was.

If he pleaded innocent you might have a case. He didn't. So you don't.

Is. That. Clear?
Not if his rights were denied.
 
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Let's talk about Jacob Chansley, since this part of the Tucker report is one of the most deceptive.

0. His sentence was 41 months (3 years, 5 months). Since he has been jailed continuously since his initial arrest the weekend after the attack (he was hard to miss) he should be released late this year when he competes 85% of his sentence. (The federal standard for good behavior release.)

Now his basic timeline inside the Capitol:

1. He is one of the first 50 people (of over 3000) to enter. Entering about 1 minute after the initial breach.

2. Shortly after entry he is part of a long duration (but non-violent) stand off with USCP officers outside the Senate chamber. You've seen photos of this stand off certainly.

3. After leaving the "stand-off" area he proceeds up the steps and enters the Senate Gallery.

4. A few minutes later he goes back down the stairs and enters the Senate Chamber itself, proceeding to the dias. (As I noted in a post many months ago, he is followed by a police officer from the gallery to the Chamber. The officer then tries (by himself) to convince Chansley and the others to vacate the chamber. Eventually a dozen or more officers show up.)

5. After leaving the Senate Chamber, he exits the building.

Tucker's "Police escort remix" deliberately edits out the time stamps. (The security footage all is labeled and time stamped in frame. The only reason it is not visibile in the Fox version is that Tucker has removed it.) We do not know exactly *when* the "escort" footage is from. Is it during the ~25 minutes of the "stand-off"? (Does he wander off during it, particularly when the crowd dwindles?) Is it when he is looking for the chamber and enters the gallery? (#3 above) Is it as he leaves the gallery and heads down to the chamber below? (We know he was followed by police.) Is it after he leaves the chamber?

Because Chansley plead guilty, there was no trial and the DOJ prosecutors did not put all of the footage of him in the Capitol into the record where we would see it.

A quick "Shaman" time line was thrown together by an online investigator. Her twitter handle is OSINTYeti

Chansley timeline Google Doc

At 2:13:30 PM, Chansley enters the ground floor of the Senate wing through a door opened by a rioter who'd entered through a smashed window (the first breach) less than 1 minute earlier.

By 2:16:40 (2m50s later) he has joined the back of a crowd of 20-30 intruders confronted by a line of police. This takes place on the main floor (2nd floor) of the Capitol. The police have their backs to the entrance to the Senate Chamber in the distance. In the intervening 3 minutes was the infamous chase of the guy in the black "Q" shirt of USCP Officer Goodman up the stairs. Most of those in this stand off were part of that chase and entered through the same breach at the same time. This includes the person who knocked out that window that started the breach.

At 2:41-2:42 PM, Chansley is still in the same location though the crowd has dwindled. I do not know if he spent the entire 25 minutes in that corridor or if he wandered off.

At 2:49, he climbs the stairs to the 3rd floor.

At about 2:52 he enters the gallery of the Senate (accessed from the 3rd floor). At 2:55 he is spotted by a reporter in the gallery.

He then leaves the gallery, fails to heed a police instruction to leave and enters the floor of the Senate after going back down to the 2nd floor.

At 3:08 he is photographed on the dais with others (where he leaves a threatening note for the VP). At about 3:09 police reinforcements arrive and finally drive out all of the intruders.

By 3:40 he can be seen outside the building.

His statement of offense with his guilty plea is here (Start with paragraph #9 on page 4):

"What I did" -- Jacob Chansley

His presence in the chamber was itself a crime and that's the one he plead to: Obstruction of a government proceeding, 18 USC 1512(c)(2).

Tucker is gaslighting you all. Using your desire that the crimes not be what they have been reported combined with low levels of factual information and misleading edits.
If only blm and ANTIFA were guilty of this non violence.But still called mostly peaceful.
 
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The court held his case so that he could be evaluated. Any sentence would have taken his mental state into account. But his lawyer said something with which I tend to agree: https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...7b4530-ba57-11eb-a6b1-81296da0339b_story.html

'Watkins this week told Talking Points Memo that his client and many others were vulnerable to believing false claims about election fraud from former president Donald Trump.

“These are people with brain damage. . . . These aren’t bad people,” Watkins said.


He said it, not me. It was part of his defence. He thinks that people who believe claims about election fraud have brain damage. You won't get an argument from me on that.
Then Hillary Clinton has brain damage along with all the Democrats who claimed Russia stole the 2016 presidential election
 
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