When did humans first start to speak? How language evolved in Africa

[Diamond72]

And you speak of me having no evidence.

I have infinite overwhelming evidence that the Bible is true. You have zip, zero no evidence that the Bible is not 100% accurate and true. Even though you make colossal attempts to prove something, anything in the Bible is false. You have failed in your effort and in your attempt.

 

[Diamond72]

Its like how christianity does not translate
into Chinese culture.

My wife worked in Hong Kong for 9 years. Christianity translates just fine into Chinese. We got married in a Christian Church in Hong Kong.

 

[Astrid]

Moses was an Egyptian. At the time they used what they call Papyri. It can catch on fire and that is why the Library at Alexandra burned up in a fire. You can research it yourself if you want to know more about it.

You falsely stated that the dead sea scrolls
are paper. Talking about something else
doesn't change that.

 

[Astrid]

I have infinite overwhelming evidence that the Bible is true. You have zip, zero no evidence that the Bible is not 100% accurate and true. Even though you make colossal attempts to prove something, anything in the Bible is false. You have failed in your effort and in your attempt.

And dead sea scrolls are paper.

 

[Frank Robert]

Ditto for polytheism?

Do polytheist's have denominations make claim that their gods deny science.

 

[Diamond72]

Where are those scrolls

I would assume the original scrolls are hidden away somewhere. I am sure the infidels would love to try to destroy them. This was a theme of Raiders of the Lost Ark. At the end of the movie the Ark of the Covenant was hidden away where no one could find it. The Priest would go into the Holy of Holies once a year. They would tie a rope around him in the event he was not worthy and he would die in the presence of God. The ARK represents man's rejection of God's Law, Leadership and Provision.

 

[Astrid]

My wife worked in Hong Kong for 9 years. Christianity translates just fine into Chinese. We got married in a Christian Church in Hong Kong.

Someone you know worked in Hong Kong
and that qualifies you to tell me about Chinese
culture?

Of course the words of the bible translate into
Chinese.

Try to read with some care. You are responding to something I didn't say.

 

[Larniavc]

I believe Diamond is talking about the Hebrew alphabet.

Not the English alphabet which, until 1835, had 27 letters.

The ampersand was never a real letter.

 

[dzheremi]

Christianity has been present in China since the first half of the 7th century, according to the Xi'an stele. That stele was itself erected in 781 AD, so it could be taken as evidence of the long history of Christianity in China even if you don't believe what it says in the text (which commemorates 150 years of Christianity in the country).

Anyway, the arguments being made about language in this thread are mostly quite silly. There are many strengths or weaknesses a language could be said to have relative to another depending on what you are choosing to highlight, but that would say more about you than it would about any of the languages under consideration.

Since Navajo has been brought up, I remember learning in graduate school (where I got a master's degree in Linguistics...before anyone tries to pull any kind of "listen, buddy, I use language every day!" non-argument out of their hat in reply to this) about the creation of automobile terminology in that language by extending the meaning of body part terms to their roughly analogous car parts, e.g., the car's 'heart' is its engine, the oil is its 'blood', etc. An outsider looking at this can conclude that this language is very primitive and ill-suited to talk about cars or their parts, seemingly lacking words like 'engine', 'piston', 'alternator', etc., or they can look at the flexibility of the language and the ingenuity of its users in filling these lexical gaps in the way that they have, and come to the opposite conclusion: that the language is actually quite sophisticated and well-suited to the task of translation -- just look at how it expresses all of these concepts for which it does not have 'pre-made' individual nouns!

 

[AV1611VET]

Moses was an Egyptian. At the time they used what they call Papyri. It can catch on fire and that is why the Library at Alexandra burned up in a fire. You can research it yourself if you want to know more about it.

When it came to the Word of God, Satan's preference was Alexandria; whereas God's preference was Antioch.

 

[AV1611VET]

The ampersand was never a real letter.

Then what happened in 1835?

 

[Hans Blaster]

A lot does not get translated. At least the KJV has the authority of God.

The "Authorized" in "Authorized Version" is "King James". It is authorized by a (now dead) English king. If you want to accept the authority of King James, that's up to you, but whatever he is King James is not God. My bible is authorized and approved for liturgical use by the Pope himself. (A now dead pope, but "The Pope" when authorized.) You can take (or leave) *that* authority as well. The Pope isn't God either.

 

[AV1611VET]

The "Authorized" in "Authorized Version" is "King James". It is authorized by a (now dead) English king.

Says you.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Says you.

Do you think that King James is still alive, or is God?

 

[dlamberth]

A lot does not get translated. At least the KJV has the authority of God.

Just curious, how does something like the Bible get God's authority?

 

[AV1611VET]

Just curious, how does something like the Bible get God's authority?

When God has It written.

 

[Diamond72]

Just curious, how does something like the Bible get God's authority?

That is a very good question. I base that on Jeremiah 1:2 when God says: "I am watchful over my word to perform it." I think that just pertains to the KJV and the original Hebrew Bible. He also tells us in Isaiah 46:10 that He "declares the end from the beginning". Only the KJV says: "declaring the end from the beginning", To declare and declaring is not the same. So I go with the KJV for the authorized word of God.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is a very good question. I base that on Jeremiah 1:2 when God says: "I am watchful over my word to perform it." I think that just pertains to the KJV and the original Hebrew Bible. He also tells us in Isaiah 46:10 that He "declares the end from the beginning". Only the KJV says: "declaring the end from the beginning", To declare and declaring is not the same. So I go with the KJV for the authorized word of God.

The KJB also exposes Satan's angelic name as "Lucifer."

 

[Diamond72]

I got a master's degree in Linguistics

So just what did God do to confuse the languages at the Tower of Babel?

 

[dlamberth]

When God has It written.

I'd think then that the Earth has way more authority than the Bible as it has absolutely direct connection to God, and signed off with His signature written by His own hand. The Earth tells a different creation story than the one the Bible tells. I think that authority given to the Earth needs to be listened to.