When did humans first start to speak? How language evolved in Africa

[Ophiolite]

I let the historians write about history as was only sharing what I though was an interesting story, sorry that it upset you.

Don't be offput by Ligurian's posturing. I suspect, at heart, he is a well balanced individual with a chip on each shoulder.

I found your link interesting, wrong, but interesting. If we only read what we believed to be right we would live a narrow world.

 

[Frank Robert]

I'm sorry that you think I was upset.

I could be wrong with assuming your were upset but the article did trigger a negative response from you which was aimed at me.

As I commented before there is nothing wrong with a difference of opinion especially in matters where no one is claiming expertise. I think most people participate in forums for primarily for entertainment and perhaps secondarily for learning something new.

 

[Ligurian]

I could be wrong with assuming your were upset but the article did trigger a negative response from you which was aimed at me.

As I commented before there is nothing wrong with a difference of opinion especially in matters where no one is claiming expertise. I think most people participate in forums for primarily for entertainment and perhaps secondarily for learning something new.

A negative response might mean that there's another side of the story.
Perspective is everything.
Multicultural-truth belongs to those with the most money.
History is a set of lies agreed upon.

 

[Ophiolite]

A negative response might mean that there's another side of the story.
Perspective is everything.
Multicultural-truth belongs to those with the most money.
History is a set of lies agreed upon.

Your observations and their implicit questions decrease, rather than increase, clarity. They suggest you have a definitive point of view, but go no way to defining its character, other than making it appear adversarial. In a discussion forum that's not very helpful and if applied consistently begins to look like trolling.
Just an observation that might cause you to reflect on the impact of your posting style. Like all unsolicited online observations it can be ignored, if that is your preference.
Cheers.

 

[Astrid]

Your observations and their implicit questions decrease, rather than increase, clarity. They suggest you have a definitive point of view, but go no way to defining its character, other than making it appear adversarial. In a discussion forum that's not very helpful and if applied consistently begins to look like trolling.
Just an observation that might cause you to reflect on the impact of your posting style. Like all unsolicited online observations it can be ignored, if that is your preference.
Cheers.

They are already ignored here.

 

[Astrid]

Your observations and their implicit questions decrease, rather than increase, clarity. They suggest you have a definitive point of view, but go no way to defining its character, other than making it appear adversarial. In a discussion forum that's not very helpful and if applied consistently begins to look like trolling.
Just an observation that might cause you to reflect on the impact of your posting style. Like all unsolicited online observations it can be ignored, if that is your preference.
Cheers.

They are already ignored here

 

[Ligurian]

Your observations and their implicit questions decrease, rather than increase, clarity. They suggest you have a definitive point of view, but go no way to defining its character, other than making it appear adversarial. In a discussion forum that's not very helpful and if applied consistently begins to look like trolling.
Just an observation that might cause you to reflect on the impact of your posting style. Like all unsolicited online observations it can be ignored, if that is your preference.
Cheers.

I don't consider it my job to teach people what to think. If you consider that to be your calling, please continue to do so.
Pardon me if I don't lift a mug with you... not a drinker, myself.

They are already ignored here

If I had a lot of friends in this world, I would be very worried... so, thanks for ignoring me.

 

[Ligurian]

Don't be offput by Ligurian's posturing. I suspect, at heart, he is a well balanced individual with a chip on each shoulder.

I found your link interesting, wrong, but interesting. If we only read what we believed to be right we would live a narrow world.

You know what they say about assumptions, right?

 

[Diamond72]

While my research has been primarily based on phonetic (speech sounds) and linguistic (language) analyses, it has also taken into account other disciplines, like palaeoanthropology (the study of human evolution), archaeology (analysing fossils and other remains), anatomy (the body) and genetics (the study of genes).

Language existed long before God created man. A lot of our Bible is oral tradition that was only recently written down and a part of our Bible today.

 

[dzheremi]

Significant work gets professionally published by academic publishing houses with review boards and such. I'm not going to say that independently published work is always of little or no value, but I will say that it is not anything you would want to cite in your own work, or rely upon for understanding in a field in which it is so easily ignorable due to the abundance of properly-vetted, academically-rigorous material (it's not like Historical Linguistics is a new field, after all). The fact that I recognize the name of the person whose quote is being used to sell the book (German linguist Bernd Heine, who is as famous as a specialist in Grammaticalization can be) but not the author himself is a bit concerning. I would steer clear of this work, at least until you have a more solid foundation in the subject. To put it in terms that are probably more relatable to the majority of this website, since you don't all have linguistics degrees: if given the chance to read from, say, the KJV or a Bible of similar provenance, or from a hot-off-the-presses, independently-published 'new' translation by someone whose name you do not know and whose credentials you cannot independently verify, which do you think you would depend upon and make most use of? Maybe eventually you'd look at the latter (for comparative purposes, or maybe just out of curiosity), but you'd almost always choose the former first, right?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Language existed long before God created man.

How does human language exist without humans?

 

[SelfSim]

Language existed long before God created man.

How does human language exist without humans?

.. and if it existed before man, what was its purpose .. and who gave it that purpose .. and what sense could that purpose possibly have?

 

[Diamond72]

How does human language exist without humans?

We are talking about the Hebrew Language that we read in the Bible. God confused language at the Tower of Babel. Even people with a PhD in Education do not know that every letter in our alphabet has a symbolic meaning. The Rabbi tells us that Hebrew is the Language God uses to Create the Universe. That is why we can understand what He has done in the past and what He is doing now.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Rabbi tells us that Hebrew is the Language God uses to Create the Universe. That is why we can understand what He has done in the past and what He is doing now.

Then why isn't he an Independent Fundamental Baptist?

 

[Hans Blaster]

We are talking about the Hebrew Language that we read in the Bible. God confused language at the Tower of Babel. Even people with a PhD in Education do not know that every letter in our alphabet has a symbolic meaning. The Rabbi tells us that Hebrew is the Language God uses to Create the Universe. That is why we can understand what He has done in the past and what He is doing now.

The ones that are in Elementary Education do:

A is for Apple.
B is for Bird.
C is for Cat.

etc.

 

[AV1611VET]

The ones that are in Elementary Education do:

A is for Apple.
B is for Bird.
C is for Cat.

etc.

I believe Diamond is talking about the Hebrew alphabet.

Note the English alphabet which, until 1835, had 27 letters.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I believe Diamond is talking about the Hebrew alphabet.

Not the English alphabet which, until 1835, had 27 letters.

What's the letter equivalent of numerology?

 

[AV1611VET]

What's the letter equivalent of numerology?

Beats me.

 

[Diamond72]

A is for Apple.
B is for Bird.
C is for Cat.

A represents the Lead animal in a Herd. B represents the tabernacle and God's desire to dwell with man. C represents a camel, but it really represents commerce. D is a door, to the tent or tabernacle. God is the head but Jesus is the door. If people understood the meaning of the first word in the Bible that would explain all of the Bible

 

[Diamond72]

What's the letter equivalent of numerology?

In Hebrew every letter has a numeric value. Recently there was a lot of talk about a Bible code.