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[AV1611VET]

In Hebrew every letter has a numeric value. Recently there was a lot of talk about a Bible code.

It's all Greek to me.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It's all Greek to me.

The Greeks also assign numerical values to letters. (Roman numerals are similar.)

In both cases, it is a convenient way to write numbers without inventing digit symbols. Unfortunately, people quickly start turning actual words into numbers based on the numerical equivalents.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Greeks also assign numerical values to letters. (Roman numerals are similar.)

In both cases, it is a convenient way to write numbers without inventing digit symbols. Unfortunately, people quickly start turning actual words into numbers based on the numerical equivalents.

1n73r3$71n6

 

[Hans Blaster]

1n73r3$71n6

How do you know my password?

 

[Diamond72]

It's all Greek to me.

Greek is very exact and very precise. It says what it means and means what it says. It is a language used to conquer the world. With Hebrew they say if you have four Rabbi they have five opinions.

 

[AV1611VET]

Greek is very exact and very precise. It says what it means and means what it says.

What does the Greek word for "sin" mean?

 

[dlamberth]

Greek is very exact and very precise. It says what it means and means what it says. It is a language used to conquer the world. With Hebrew they say if you have four Rabbi they have five opinions.

Compared to Hebrew and other Middle-East languages, Greek does not translate spiritual words or concepts very well. English is the same.

 

[eleos1954]

What does the Greek word for "sin" mean?

means that same as it does in hebrew - missing the mark

Strong's Greek: 266. ἁμαρτία (hamartia) -- a sin, failure

 

[Hans Blaster]

Compared to Hebrew and other Middle-East languages, Greek does not translate spiritual words or concepts very well. English is the same.

That sounds like an advantage for English and Greek.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Compared to Hebrew and other Middle-East languages, Greek does not translate spiritual words or concepts very well. English is the same.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Seriously, maybe the problem is the borrowing of concepts not native to the West. Consider how well Navajo concepts would translate to Hebrew

 

[Diamond72]

What does the Greek word for "sin" mean?

As we all know it means to miss the mark. When I was in basic the only thing they spend money on was ammo for target practice. They did not spend money for anything else. We even had to buy our own boot polish.

Context is important also. If we look at first John 3:4 we see that sin is lawlessness. The law sets a standard and sin is a failure to measure up to the standard.

I am sure an arrow or spear was expensive for the Romans, so it would not go well if you wasted it and missed the target. There was a term called: "Roger Dodger" where they would dodge the spear and then throw it right back at the enemy. To use their own ammo against them. The price you pay if you miss the target could cost you your life.

Of course, they had different groups of people with different weapons. A lot of the strategy of war was in using the right weapons to hit the intended target.

 

[Diamond72]

English is the same.

The Psalms in the Bible are songs. English is very poetic and picks up the rhythm of the Bible.

 

[dlamberth]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

It does have a way of cutting short the depth of human experiences. I don't see the good in that.

 

[dlamberth]

The Psalms in the Bible are songs. English is very poetic and picks up the rhythm of the Bible.

I wonder how much was lost in the translation from Aramaic to Greek and on into English? I think quick a bit. I'm not sure it was originally written in Aramaic or Hebrew.

 

[AV1611VET]

I wonder how much was lost in the translation from Aramaic to Greek and on into English? I think quite a bit. I'm not sure it was originally written in Aramaic or Hebrew.

The Word of God isn't Arab phoned.

Not with His permission, that is.

That would constitute neglect on God's part.

And for the record, I don't think It was originally written in Aramaic or Hebrew either.

 

[Tinker Grey]

It does have a way of cutting short the depth of human experiences. I don't see the good in that.

Your assumption appears to be that cultures need middle east concepts to have "depth" of human experiences. Too, you omitted part of my point. To wit, that the ME likely can't handle Navajo concepts and thus cut "short the depth of human experiences."

Different languages and cultures can only be said to be different. The idea that some culture or other is superior somehow is wrong. I don't see the good in that.

 

[Diamond72]

I'm not sure it was originally written in Aramaic or Hebrew.

Moses was written in Hebrew and only Jesus can add to what we received from Moses. Everyone else is commentary.

Numbers 12 "7 But this is not so with My servant Moses; he is faithful in all My house. 8 I speak with him face to face, clearly and not in riddles; he sees the form of the LORD.

 

[Diamond72]

And for the record, I don't think It was originally written in Aramaic or Hebrew either.

A lot of the Old Testament is oral tradition and was not written at all. In the original there are no capitals, there are no sentences or any structure at all. It would be like having the lyrics to a song but no music.

 

[Diamond72]

I wonder how much was lost in the translation

A lot does not get translated. At least the KJV has the authority of God.

 

[Hans Blaster]

A lot of the Old Testament is oral tradition and was not written at all.

Do you mean *before* it was written into the Jewish scripture? (Because the whole thing is written out now and has been for at least 2000 years.)

In the original there are no capitals,

Capital letters (or rather upper and lower case) are an invention of the last 2000 years. No script had them. I'm not even sure if *modern* Hebrew uses them. (Their text doesn't look like it, but I can't tell for certain.)

there are no sentences or any structure at all. It would be like having the lyrics to a song but no music.

Of course there were sentences and structure. What they didn't have (nor did the oldest Greek manuscripts of the NT) were spaces between words or punctuation. In other words it looked like this:

ALOTOFTHENEWTESTEMENTISORALTRADITIONANDWASNOTWRITTENATALLINTHEORIGINALTHEREARENOCAPITALSTHEREARENOSENTENCESORANYSTRUCTUREATALLITWOULDBELIKEHAVINGTHELYRICSTOASONGBUTNOMUSIC

(That's your post in the old style. )