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Romans 9
27 Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Though the number of the Israelites is like the sand of the sea, only the remnant will be saved.
28 For the Lord will carry out His sentence on the earth thoroughly and decisively.”
I have always struggled in understanding what is being said here, would love to get the thoughts . In Romans 11 verse 26 it clearly says all of Israel will be saved. yet earlier in that same chapter is clearly shows Paul to be suggesting only some of them will we saved.
After going back in the book of Romans it seems, just because you are a Jew does not mean you belong to Israel ?? I get this from Romans 9 verse 6 and 7.
It seems to me in Verse 8 suggesting that just because you are Jewish does not make you part of God's Children. It also seems That Israel is considered God's children. It seems that in verse 8 all are God's Children are that which have received the promise form Abraham. So maybe just maybe all those in Christ, Jew or Greek are part of the spiritual Israel referred to as God Children?? This way it make sense when it says all of Israel will be saved in Romans 11 verse 26. Other wise it seems to be a conflict when it says all Israel will be saved, in Romans 11-26, and then in Romans 9-27 says only a remnant will be saved.
Aren't these verses about the captivity? hmmm... maybe not. Are the Assyrians the beast?
Esaias Isaiah 10:20 And it shall come to pass in that day that the remnant of Israel shall no more join themselves with, and the saved of Jacob shall no more trust in, them that injured them; but they shall trust in the Holy God of Israel, in truth. 21 And the remnant of Jacob shall trust on the mighty God. 22 And though the people of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant of them shall be saved. 23 He will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because the Lord will make a short work in all the world. 24 Therefore thus saith the Lord of hosts, Be not afraid, My people who dwell in Sion, of the Assyrians because he shall smite thee with a rod; for I am bringing a stroke upon thee that thou mayest see the way of Egypt. 25 For yet a little while and the indignation shall cease, but My wrath shall be against their council. 26 And God will stir up enemies against them, according to the stroke of Madiam in the place of affliction, and his wrath shall be by the way of the sea, even to the way that leads to Egypt. 27 And it shall come to pass in that day, that his yoke shall be taken away from thy shoulder and his fear from thee, and the yoke shall be destroyed from off your shoulders.LXX
Israel is a name given by God to the 12 tribes of Jacob:
Genesis 32:24-30 28 And He said to him, Thy name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name; for thou hast prevailed with God and shalt be mighty with men.LXX
This is still future-tense, because here are the blind who can see:
Esaias Isaiah 43:1 And now thus saith the Lord God that made thee, O Jacob; and formed thee, O Israel: Fear not, for I have redeemed thee; I have called thee by thy name, thou art Mine. 2 And if thou pass through water, I am with thee and the rivers shall not overflow thee. And if thou go through fire, thou shalt not be burned, the flame shall not burn thee. 3 For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, that saves thee: I have made Egypt and Ethiopia thy ransom and given Soene for thee. 4 Since thou becamest precious in My sight, thou hast become glorious, and I have loved thee. And I will give men for thee, and princes for thy life. 5 Fear not, for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east and will gather thee from the west. 6 I will say to the north, Bring; and to the south, Keep not back. Bring my sons from the land afar off, and My daughters from the ends of the earth, 7 even all who are called by My name. For I have prepared him for My glory, and I have formed him and have made him. 8 And I have brought forth the blind people: for their eyes are alike blind, and they that have ears are deaf.LXX
Esaias Isaiah 6:8-13 And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send and who will go to this people? And I said, behold, I am here, send me. And He said, Go, and say to this people, 9 Ye shall hear indeed but ye shall not understand, and ye shall see indeed but ye shall not perceive. 10 For the heart of this people has become gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart and be converted, and I should heal them. 11 And I said, How long, O Lord? And He said, Until cities be deserted by reason of their not being inhabited and the houses by reason of there being no men, and the land shall be left desolate. 12 And after this God shall remove the men far off, and they that are left upon the land shall be multiplied. 13 And yet there shall be a tenth upon it and again it shall be for a spoil, as a turpentine tree and as an acorn when it falls out of its husk.LXX
Half of this was quoted in Matthew 13:13-17... so it hadn't happened yet. The blind were apparently the multitudes, as opposed to the Disciples (pupils) who were blessed in that chapter because they could see.
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