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You did not read the post you were quoting from earlier did you? If you did you would have seen that "everyday" under the old covenant including the new moons and the Feasts days were days to offer sacrifice (the old covenant sacrificial system). Perhaps it might be better to read the post you are quoting from before responding next time? It is obvious you did not read it with your responses you are providing here. It was only posted to be helpful so there is no misunderstandings.

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Heres the bottom line. To Judasim they are called in the ten to "Remember" to "memorialize" the Sabbath, not just keep it. It is a memorial feast..A sign of the Sinai covenant, a memorial to their redemption and slavery, which God covenanted to their father Abraham to redeem them from. As heirs of the land he promised them in that covenant. Not only is it offensive for you to claim it is a command for you, but do so, by saying they don't even know or understand their own covenant. I'm done here.
 
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Heres the bottom line. To Judasim they are called in the ten to "Remember" to "memorialize" the Sabbath, not just keep it. It is a memorial feast..A sign of the Sinai covenant, a memorial to their redemption and slavery, which God covenanted to their father Abraham to redeem them from. As heirs of the land he promised them in that covenant. Not only is it offensive for you to claim it is a command for you, but do so, by saying they don't even know or understand their own covenant. I'm done here.

According to the scriptures and the very words of Jesus, there was no Judaism when God made the Sabbath for all mankind (Mark 2:27; Genesis 2:1-3). Exodus 20:8-11 states that the Sabbath is a memorial of creation and a celebration of God as the creator of heaven and earth. In the new covenant it is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7 and according to James if we break anyone of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of sin *James 2:10-11. Sunday worship on the other hand is a man-made teaching and tradition that has led many away from God and His Word to break the commandments of God. Jesus says in Matthew 15:3-9 if we knowingly follow man-made teachings that break the commandments of God we are not worshiping God. Something to pray about I guess.

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obviously every sabbath was a convocation to offer a sacrifice

But not the 7th day Sabbath in Eden - which was before the fall of man - Gen 2:1-3 when "the Sabbath was made" for mankind Mark 2:27 - a day for worship without animal sacrifice

Which is a day of "holy convocation" as per Lev 23:2-3

Lev 23
2 “Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘The Lord’s appointed times which you shall proclaim as holy convocations—My appointed times are these:
3 ‘For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a Sabbath of complete rest, a holy convocation. You shall not do any work; it is a Sabbath to the Lord in all your dwellings.


Which we see for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to bow down" Is 66:23 - an eternity of worship and holy convocation without sacrifice.

Act 18:4 Paul in worship service "every Sabbath" preaching the Gospel to both Jews and gentiles - without an animal sacrifice.
 
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Well that is not true at all. Here let me help. God's 4th commandment outside of the annual feast days of Leviticus 23 was not a day of "holy convocation"

Leviticus 23:2-3 [2], Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them, CONCERNING THE FEASTS OF THE LORD, WHICH YOU SHALL PROCLAIM TO BE HOLY CONVOCATIONS, EVEN THESE ARE MY FEASTS.
[3], Six days shall work be done: but THE SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH OF REST, AN HOLY CONVOCATION; you shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
[4], THESE ARE THE FEASTS OF THE LORD, EVEN HOLY CONVOCATIONS, which you shall proclaim in their seasons….

FEASTS IN THEIR SEASONS LISTED...

Passover and Unleavened Bread - Leviticus 23:5-8
First Fruits - Leviticus 23:9-14
Harvest - Leviticus 23:15-22
Trumpets - Leviticus 23:23-25
Day of Atonement - Leviticus 23:26-32
Tabernacles - Leviticus 23:33-44

..............

Comments:

Leviticus 23:2 as an opening statement "concerning the Feasts of the Lord" so the context and the subject matter here is in context to "the annual Feasts of the Lord" which "are to be a Holy convocation even these are my Feasts". In Leviticus 23:3 we are told that the annual Feasts of the Lord includes Gods' 4th commandment which is one of these "Holy convocations" included in the annual Feasts when it says in v3 "the seventh day sabbath of rest an holy convocation." Therefore to me the scripture is listing Gods' 4th commandment in Leviticus 23 as a holy convocation that is a part of the annual Feast days. The main point here is that Gods' 4th commandment in Leviticus 23:3 is in context and application to the annual Feast days of Leviticus 23 and is specifically called here a "holy convocation". Outside of the annual Feast days God's 4th commandment according to the commandments is not a "holy convocation".

The original Hebrew of "Holy convocation" H6944; קֹדֶשׁ (qôdesh | ko'-desh); H4744; מִקְרָא (miqrâʼ | mik-raw') is not used in Exodus 20:8-11 and is only used in context to the annual Feast days of Leviticus 23 and means "a calling out to a public assembly or to a sacred place". That public assembly and context here is to the annual Feast days to make offerings to the Lord.

So the application of Gods' 4th commandment as a "holy convocation" is in context only to the annual Feast days of Leviticus 23 and not outside of Leviticus 23. Outside of Leviticus 23, which is the context to the annual Feast days there is no mention in Gods' 4th commandment being a "holy convocation" see Gods 4th commandment below. However, God's 4th commandment says that the Sabbath is a holy day in it's own right (see Genesis 2:1-3 and Exodus 20:8-11)

Exodus 20:8-11[8], Remember the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> Because God made it Holy for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day) [9], Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: [10], But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY>[11], For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and MADE IT HOLY.

Note: there is nothing in God's Sabbath commandment outside of the annual Feast days stating that God's 4th commandment is a "holy convocation". The application of Gods' 4th commandment as a "holy convocation" or a calling out to a public assembly is only in contest to Leviticus 23 which is to the annual Feast days that Gods' people under the old covenant were called out to participate in.

Leviticus 23:2-3 includes Gods' 4th commandments as a day that is a holy convocation that is included in the Feasts of the Lord as application is only in context to the "annual Feasts" that were all shadows of things to come that included the meat and drink offerings (the old covenant sacrificial system), new moons (used to determine the annual Feast times) and the annual sabbaths that were directly connected to these Feasts. All these days were linked to the old covenant sacrificial laws for remission of sins that were shadows of things to come in the new covenant. These of course all pointing to the coming of Jesus *Colossians 2:16-17.

We need to remember here that the whole sacrificial system pointing to Christ was directly linked under the old covenant to every day of the week including to all the annual Feast days in fact every day including God's 4th commandment (see linked post above) was linked directly to the laws for remission of sins (animal sacrifice and meat and drink offerings). Under the new covenant this system is now fulfilled and continued in Christ based on better promises (Hebrews 7:1-25; Hebrews 8:1-13; Hebrews 9:1-27 and Hebrews 10:1-22).

Possibly what your disregarding here is that Gods' 4th commandment is also outside of the annual Feast days that are "shadows of things to come" (Colossians 2:16). This means that even if the shadow Feasts are no longer a requirement for God's people, Gods' 4th commandment is still a requirement because it is also outside of the annual Feast days and all the laws for remission of sins and every 7th day of the week.

You also may want to consider that there were many kinds of ceremonial sabbaths in the old covenant linked to Leviticus 23 that were not God's 4th commandment that were days of holy convocation were no work was allowed. There are seven of these ceremonial Sabbaths as follows:- Leviticus 23:7, 8, 21, 24, 25, 27, 32, 39. 1. 16th of Abib; 2. 23rd of Abib; 3. Pentecost; 4. 1st of the 7th month; 5. 10th of the 7th month; 6. 15th of the 7th month; 7. 22nd of the 7th month. These were annual Sabbaths, coming only once a year. As they always came on the same day of the month, they would come only occasionally on the 7th day of the week so every year they fell on a different day of the week (accept for Gods' 4th commandment which was simply every 7th day of the week). It is these ceremonial sabbaths connected to the annual Feast days that were all shadows of things to come * Colossians 2:16-17. These types, or shadowy service, ceased at the cross *Hebrews 9:8-11. At the death of Christ God rent the vale of the temple, thus showing that the shadowy service had ended *Matthew 27:50-51. All of these ceremonial sabbaths were connected with the annual feast days. On the Passover Sabbath bitter herbs were mingled with the feast. The day of atonement was a fast day; the others were feast days *Hebrews 9:10; Romans 14:1-6; Colossians 2:16. These annual sabbaths were separate and distinct from the Sabbath of the Lord *Leviticus 23:38. The seventh day of the week is the Sabbath of the Lord * Exodus 20:10. “Meats and drinks” not connected with the weekly Sabbath *Exodus 20:8-11. Seventh-day Sabbath is a memorial of creation not the annual Feast days *Exodus 20:11. As long as the world stands the memorial of creation will be continued and celebrated *Isaiah 66:22, 23. (Stephen Haskell - Bible handbook)

It is the ceremonies that were done on these days that where shadows of things to come and fulfilled in Christ. However unlike the ceremonial sabbaths and days of holy convocation, the weekly Sabbath of God's 4th commandments is not locked into the annual Feast days it is outside of it and is a holy day that God blessed in its own right that is every seventh day of the week *Exodus 20:8-11

Take Care.
Hello LGW, your first paragraph had proven wrong by verse 3 of Leviticus 23 you've quoted...I don't know maybe you just copy and paste your post without double checking it...
 
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Hello LGW, your first paragraph had proven wrong by verse 3 of Leviticus 23 you've quoted...I don't know maybe you just copy and paste your post without double checking it...
No not at all. Can you tell me what the post you are quoting in post 114 linked is saying? You cannot can you. It seems you did not even read it either or you would not have even posted what you have written here. Try reading the post first and tell me how your comment matches up? They don't, so they are not relevant to the post you are quoting from.
 
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But not the 7th day Sabbath in Eden - which was before the fall of man - Gen 2:1-3 when "the Sabbath was made" for mankind Mark 2:27 - a day for worship without animal sacrifice

Which is a day of "holy convocation" as per Lev 23:2-3

Lev 23
2 “Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘The Lord’s appointed times which you shall proclaim as holy convocations—My appointed times are these:
3 ‘For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a Sabbath of complete rest, a holy convocation. You shall not do any work; it is a Sabbath to the Lord in all your dwellings.


Which we see for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to bow down" Is 66:23 - an eternity of worship and holy convocation without sacrifice.

Act 18:4 Paul in worship service "every Sabbath" preaching the Gospel to both Jews and gentiles - without an animal sacrifice.
Hello Bob, are you saying the 7th day Sabbath is still a day of "holy convocation " but without animal sacrifices?
 
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No not at all. Can you tell me what the post you are quoting in post 114 linked is saying? You cannot can you. It seems you did not even read it either or you would not have even posted what you have written here. Try reading the post first and tell me how your comment matches up? It doesn't.
Same post I replied to...
 
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Same post I replied to...
Non-responsive to the post you are quoting from. We will have a better conversation if you read what your quoting from (post 114 linked) before responding as the post you were quoting from is not saying what you are claiming it is saying. This only tells me you did not even bother to read it before responding which is not very conducive for a friendly discussion. You did not read the linked post did you?

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Thank you SB, But that is an error by a miles...

there is only ONE Sabbath Rest in Hebrews 4, but there are two different days the "7th day" and "today"...the Rest in Christ is our Sabbath Rest, the Rest in Creation or 7th day is God's Rest...

Still a lot don't get to understand it more deeply including SDA, I'm sorry but I have to say it..
Hebrews is talking about the rest spoken of by
Moses in the law (long after the Sabbath was given...)
De 12:9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

Moses cannot cross over into the land. It is Joshua who will bring them in
De 1:38 But Joshua the son of Nun, which standeth before thee, he shall go in thither: encourage him: for he shall cause Israel to inherit it.

Hebrews
But not the 7th day Sabbath in Eden - which was before the fall of man - Gen 2:1-3 when "the Sabbath was made" for mankind Mark 2:27 - a day for worship without animal sacrifice

Which is a day of "holy convocation" as per Lev 23:2-3

Lev 23
2 “Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, ‘The Lord’s appointed times which you shall proclaim as holy convocations—My appointed times are these:
3 ‘For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a Sabbath of complete rest, a holy convocation. You shall not do any work; it is a Sabbath to the Lord in all your dwellings.


Which we see for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to bow down" Is 66:23 - an eternity of worship and holy convocation without sacrifice.

Act 18:4 Paul in worship service "every Sabbath" preaching the Gospel to both Jews and gentiles - without an animal sacrifice.
It doesn't say he was worshipping in the synagogue. He went to the synagogue because that is where teaching went on. Worship was at Temple.
Jesus and the Samaritan woman
Joh 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
 
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Hebrews is talking about the rest spoken of by
Moses in the law (long after the Sabbath was given...) De 12:9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you. Moses cannot cross over into the land. It is Joshua who will bring them in De 1:38 But Joshua the son of Nun, which standeth before thee, he shall go in thither: encourage him: for he shall cause Israel to inherit it.

The contexts of Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 4 are talking about how Gods' people could not enter into Gods' rest because they did not believe and follow what Gods Word says in Hebrews 3:8-19 and Hebrews 4:1-5. God's rest/My rest/His Rest here is defined in the scriptures as the "seventh day" created from the foundation of the world *Hebrews 4:1-5 so we are not talking about a place or promised land here but the rest God intended us to receive by entering into God's Sabbath commandment that we are commanded to remember and keep holy. The scriptures here state that no one enters into rest/My rest/His Rest which is the "seventh day" Sabbath created from the foundation of the world if they do not believe what Gods' Word says but we who have believed enter into that rest (Hebrews 4:1-5). It concludes by saying "Therefore it remains or is left behind for the people of God to keep the Sabbath." - Hebrews 4:9. Therefore the warning here is that no one enters into Gods Sabbath rest, if they do not believe and follow what Gods Word says.

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Hebrews is talking about the rest spoken of by
Moses in the law (long after the Sabbath was given...)
De 12:9 For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

Moses cannot cross over into the land. It is Joshua who will bring them in
De 1:38 But Joshua the son of Nun, which standeth before thee, he shall go in thither: encourage him: for he shall cause Israel to inherit it.

Hebrews

It doesn't say he was worshipping in the synagogue on the Sabbath as His custom meaning what He did weekly. He went to the synagogue because that is where teaching went on. Worship was at Temple.
Jesus and the Samaritan woman
Joh 4:20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

Maybe you missed what Jesus was doing at the synagogue on the Sabbath, which by the way the term synagogue is actually the Greek translation for beit knesset, meaning house of assembly.

This is what Jesus was doing on the Sabbath day as His custom, reading the Word of God, keeping the Sabbath holy as commanded by His Father, and ours.

Lue 4:16 So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. 17 And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written:

18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me,
Because He has anointed Me
To preach the gospel to the poor;
He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
To proclaim liberty to the captives
And recovery of sight to the blind,
To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
19 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.”

20 Then He closed the book, and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all who were in the synagogue were fixed on Him. 21 And He began to say to them, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” 22 So all bore witness to Him, and marveled at the gracious words which proceeded out of His mouth.

The apostles also went to the synagogue on the Sabbath day to preach God’s Word to both Jew, Gentiles and whole cities, because this is the holy day of the Lord thy God according to God Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13 and a commandment for all of mankind Exodus 20:8-11, Mark 2:27, Genesis 1:26 that the disciples also kept.

Acts 13:42 So when the Jews went out of the synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath. 43 Now when the congregation had broken up, many of the Jews and devout proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas, who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. 44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks.

We should not harden our hearts to God’s Word. There are not two gospels taught in scripture, God and Jesus are our example. God and Jesus keeps the Sabbath holy Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13, Mark 2:28, John 15:10 and God commanded mankind to as well Exodus 20:8-11, Mark 2:27, Genesis 1:26-31. The Ten Commandments are in the ark of the Covenant in the Most Holy of God’s Temple which is revealed to be in Heaven as well Revelation 11:19 and of course it would be because this is God’s holy law that God personally wrote and personally spoke. The first 4 commandments on the first tablet are how we are to show our love to God and the last 6 on the second tablet how we show our love to our neighbor. These are UNIVERSAL. God’s perfect law that reflect the very character of God. Jesus tells us we are to teach others to keep these laws Matthew 5:19 and breaking the least and teaching others has some consequences. You do not need to convince us that you are exempt from the very law that God personally wrote and keeps in the Most Holy of His Temple, but come judgement day, we will all have to stand before Jesus and His righteous judgement based on what we have done.2 Corinthians 5:10, James 2:10-12. God blesses those who DO keep the commandments.

Blessed are those who do His commandments
, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city
Revelation 22:14

God bless and Happy Sabbath!
 
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The contexts of Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 4 are talking about how Gods' people could not enter into Gods' rest because they did not believe and follow what Gods Word says in Hebrews 3:8-19 and Hebrews 4:1-5. God's rest/My rest/His Rest here is defined in the scriptures as the "seventh day" created from the foundation of the world *Hebrews 4:1-5 so we are not talking about a place or promised land here but the rest God intended us to receive by entering into God's Sabbath
It is about a shadow, an example, and an inheritance. It is about "the conditions" within a place.
Peace, serenity, quiet... Rest from your enemies. in your inheritance by obedience in faith.
The people that came out of Egypt did not have faith to go in and take the land. God disinherited that generation. They wandered 40 years until that generation died. The next generation, went in under Joshua. Two and one half tribes were given their inheritance under Moses, on the other side of the Jordon. They could not "rest" in their inheritance until they crossed over armed with their brethren to help them to enter their inheritance. When seven nations were destroyed under Joshua, they received their inheritance as well.

Jos 21:44 And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand.

Galatians two covenants. Hebrew two covenants. One earthly worldly Gen 15, the other heavenly Gen 17
Fulfillment of the covenant of the earthly inheritance promised the seed Abraham in Genesis 15.
Jos 22:4 And now the LORD your God hath given rest unto your brethren, as he promised them: therefore now return ye, and get you unto your tents, and unto the land of your possession, which Moses the servant of the LORD gave you on the other side Jordan.
Jos 23:1 And it came to pass a long time after that the LORD had given rest unto Israel from all their enemies round about, that Joshua waxed old and stricken in age.
These things were for an example and shadow for us concerning the eternal inheritance.
It is not just a place but the conditions of rest
we enjoy in it.
"Another day"
spoken in David, is the rest of eternal heavenly inheritance where our citizenship is. Like the two and one half tribes, indeed were given their inheritance already, they need to continue on with their brethren in the battle until their brethren received theirs to find "rest" in it. All by the obedience of faith.
So, like the 2 1/2 tribes had their inheritance they could not enter into the rest of it until the other tribes received the same.

All those faithful from the beginning.....
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
So, we engage in a spiritual battle until all whomsoever he calls to the promised inheritance receives it.
 
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Sorry I haven't been back in a while. It looks like a lot has gone on since then. One question I have: What is the significance of God calling the Sabbath a "sign" between Him and Israel in Exodus 31:13, Exodus 31:16-17, Ezekiel 20:12, and Ezekiel 20:19-20? Is it that the Sabbath would distinguish Israel as the nation God sanctified and the nation whose God is Jehovah, perhaps in contrast to the Gentile nations?
 
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Sorry I haven't been back in a while. It looks like a lot has gone on since then. One question I have: What is the significance of God calling the Sabbath a "sign" between Him and Israel in Exodus 31:13, Exodus 31:16-17, Ezekiel 20:12, and Ezekiel 20:19-20? Is it that the Sabbath would distinguish Israel as the nation God sanctified and the nation whose God is Jehovah, perhaps in contrast to the Gentile nations?
As for me, I don't know. But good question. All I know is the circumcision was a sign of Abrahams faith, The rainbow, a sign of God's covenant with all men and creation.
 
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As for me, I don't know. But good question. All I know is the circumcision was a sign of Abrahams faith, The rainbow, a sign of God's covenant with all men and creation.
This seems to be the case. The rainbow is a sign for Noah's children (i.e., all of us), circumcision is a sign for Abraham's children (and thus not everyone), and the Sabbath is a sign for the children of Israel (and thus not everyone).
 
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This seems to be the case. The rainbow is a sign for Noah's children (i.e., all of us), circumcision is a sign for Abraham's children (and thus not everyone), and the Sabbath is a sign for the children of Israel (and thus not everyone).
I think it is possible the circumcision in the foreskin in the flesh might be a sign of the firstborn? Which is not everyone, even among sons
Ex 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
 
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I think it is possible the circumcision in the foreskin in the flesh might be a sign of the firstborn? Which is not everyone, even among sons
Ex 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:
I'm not sure. At the very least, non-desendants of Abraham wouldn't be expected to be circumcised; otherwise, circumcision wouldn't be a "sign" between God and Abraham, right?
 
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It is about a shadow, an example, and an inheritance. It is about "the conditions" within a place......
Peace, serenity, quiet... Rest from your enemies. in your inheritance by obedience in faith.
The people that came out of Egypt did not have faith to go in and take the land. God disinherited that generation. They wandered 40 years until that generation died. The next generation, went in under Joshua. Two and one half tribes were given their inheritance under Moses, on the other side of the Jordon. They could not "rest" in their inheritance until they crossed over armed with their brethren to help them to enter their inheritance. When seven nations were destroyed under Joshua, they received their inheritance as well.

Jos 21:44 And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand.

Galatians two covenants. Hebrew two covenants. One earthly worldly Gen 15, the other heavenly Gen 17
Fulfillment of the covenant of the earthly inheritance promised the seed Abraham in Genesis 15.
Jos 22:4 And now the LORD your God hath given rest unto your brethren, as he promised them: therefore now return ye, and get you unto your tents, and unto the land of your possession, which Moses the servant of the LORD gave you on the other side Jordan.
Jos 23:1 And it came to pass a long time after that the LORD had given rest unto Israel from all their enemies round about, that Joshua waxed old and stricken in age.
These things were for an example and shadow for us concerning the eternal inheritance.
It is not just a place but the conditions of rest
we enjoy in it.
"Another day" spoken in David, is the rest of eternal heavenly inheritance where our citizenship is. Like the two and one half tribes, indeed were given their inheritance already, they need to continue on with their brethren in the battle until their brethren received theirs to find "rest" in it. All by the obedience of faith.
So, like the 2 1/2 tribes had their inheritance they could not enter into the rest of it until the other tribes received the same.

All those faithful from the beginning.....
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
So, we engage in a spiritual battle until all whomsoever he calls to the promised inheritance receives it.

Actually no it isn't Hebrews 3 and Hebrews 4 is a warning to us that we should not harden our hearts in unbelief and sin or God will forsake us *see Hebrews 3:12-13; 14; 17-19; Hebrew 4:1-2;6; 11. Here let's look at the scriptures in detail here and not try and read into the scriptures (eisegesis) what that the scriptures are not saying or teaching.

GOD'S WARNINGS AGAINST SIN AND UNBELIEF HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4

Let's look at the scriptures in detail...

Hebrews 3:8-19
8, HARDEN NOT YOUR HEARTS, AS IN THE PROVOCATION, IN THE DAY OF TEMPTATION IN THE WILDERNESS:
9, When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10, Why I WAS GRIEVED WITH THAT GENERATION, AND SAID, THEY DO ALWAYS ERR IN THEIR HEART; AND THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN MY WAYS.
11, SO I SWORE IN MY WRATH, THEY SHALL NOT ENTER INTO MY REST.
12, TAKE HEED, BROTHERS, LEST THERE BE IN ANY OF YOU AN EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF, IN DEPARTING FROM THE LIVING GOD.
13, But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; LEST ANY OF YOU BE HARDENED THROUGH THE DECEITFULNESS OF SIN.
14, For we are made partakers of Christ, IF WE HOLD THE BEGINNING OF OUR CONFIDENCE STEADFAST TO THE END;
15, While it is said, To day if you will hear his voice, HARDEN NOT YOUR HEARTS, as in the provocation.
16, For some, when they had heard, did provoke: however, not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17, BUT WITH WHOM WAS HE GRIEVED FORTY YEARS? WAS IT NOT WITH THEM THAT HAD SINNED, WHOSE CARCASSES FELL IN THE WILDERNESS?
18, And to whom swore he THAT THEY SHOULD NOT ENTER INTO HIS REST, BUT TO THEM THAT BELIEVED NOT?
19, So we see that THEY COULD NOT ENTER IN BECAUSE OF UNBELIEF.

KEY POINTS TO NOTE...
  • Hebrews 3:8 A warning not to harden our hearts to God's Word
  • Hebrews 3:9-10 Those in the wilderness tempted God 40 years and did not obey him or his ways
  • Hebrews 3:11 God swore they would not enter into "His Rest" (Genesis 2:1-3; see Ezekiel 20:10-13)
  • Hebrews 3:12 Another warning not to harden our hearts in unbelief departing from God
  • Hebrews 3:13 Encourage one and other lest we harden our hearts in sin (breaking Gods' law 1 John 3:4)
  • Hebrews 3:14 We are only partakers of Christ "IF" we hold the the faith steadfast to the end
  • Hebrews 3:15-17 More warnings not to harden our hearts as those who sinned died in the wilderness
  • Hebrews 3:18-19 God did not let them enter into "His rest" because they were in unbelie

Note: Hebrews 3 and it's link to Ezekiel 20:10-13 how God's people were breaking "His Sabbath" and God poured out his judgements on them...

Ezekiel 20:10-13 [10], Why I caused them to go forth out of the land of Egypt and BROUGHT THEM INTO THE WILDERNESS. [11], and I GAVE THEM MY STATUTES, AND SHOWED THEM MY JUDGMENTS, WHICH IF A MAN DO, HE SHALL LIVE IN THEM. [12], MOREOVER ALSO I GAVE THEM MY SABBATHS, TO BE A SIGN BETWEEN ME AND THEM THAT THEY MAY KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD THAT SANCTIFY THEM. [13], BUT THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL REBELLED AGAINST ME IN THE WILDERNESS: THEY WALKED NOT IN MY STATUTES AND DESPISED MY JUDGMENTS WHICH IF A MAN DO THEY SHALL LIVE IN THEM AND MY SABBATHS THEY GREATLY POLLUTED: THEN I SAID I WOULD POUR OUT MY FURY ON THEM IN THE WILDERNESS, TO CONSUME THEM.

Note: Hebrews 3 and it's links to Psalms 95:2-11 and Ezekiel 20:10-13 which is also over worshiping God as the God of creation and the Sabbath commandment and not entering God's rest (the seventh day created from the foundation of the world)...

Psalms 95:2-11
[2], Let us come before his presence with thanksgiving, and make a joyful noise to him with psalms.
[3], For the LORD is a great God, and a great King above all gods.
[4], In his hand are the deep places of the earth: the strength of the hills is his also.
[5], The sea is his, and he made it: and his hands formed the dry land.
[6], O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the LORD our maker.
[7], For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if you will hear his voice,
[8], Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
[9], When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my work.
[10], Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways:
[11], To whom I swore in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.

Note the link back to what Hebrews 3 is quoting....
  • Psalms 95:2-7 is worshiping the only true creator God of heaven and earth
  • Psalms 95:8 "Harden not your hearts as in the provocation in the wilderness (see Hebrews 3:8)
  • Psalms 95:9 "When your fathers tempted me 40 years" (see Hebrews 3:9)
  • Psalms 95:10 40 years Gods' people did not know God's ways (Hebrews 3:10)
  • Psalms 95:11 Because God's people did not know God's ways they did not enter His rest (Hebrews 3:11)
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Summary: Hebrews 3 is has links to Ezekiel 20:10-12 and is directly quoting from Psalms 95 which is about worshiping the only true God and creator of heaven and earth. God's people did not know God's ways and broke His Sabbaths and God did not give them His rest. They could not enter into God's rest because of unbelief and sin and God poured out His judgements on them because they broke his Sabbaths and they died in the wilderness because of their unbelief and sins.

Let's define what Gods' rest/My rest/His rest is from the scriptures in the next post

more to come...
 
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WHAT IS GOD'S REST OF HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4?

HEBREWS 4:1-11
[1], LET US THEREFORE FEAR, LEST, A PROMISE BEING LEFT US OF ENTERING INTO HIS REST, ANY OF YOU SHOULD SEEM TO COME SHORT OF IT.
[2], FOR TO US WAS THE GOSPEL PREACHED, AS WELL AS TO THEM: BUT THE WORD PREACHED DID NOT PROFIT THEM, NOT BEING MIXED WITH FAITH IN THEM THAT HEARD IT.
[3], For WE WHICH HAVE BELIEVED DO ENTER INTO REST, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into MY REST: ALTHOUGH THE WORKS WERE FINISHED FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
[4], For he spoke in a certain place of the SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And God did rest the SEVENTH DAY from all his works.
5, And in this place again, If they shall enter into MY REST.

KEY POINTS FROM THE SCRIPTURES OF HEBREWS 4:1-5 (exegesis)
  • Hebrews 4:1 More warnings to fear if we do not enter into "His rest" if we fall short of it.
  • Hebrews 4:2 Because unto us was the gospel preached as well us unto them but they did not believe
  • Hebrews 4:3 We who believe (present tense) enter into God's rest from the foundation of the world
  • Hebrews 4:4 Reference of Hebrews 4:3 is to the Gods' Sabbath rest of the "seventh day"
  • Hebrews 4:4-5 God's rest is the seventh day Sabbath of creation that we enter into by faith
  • Genesis 2:1-3 Links to Hebrews 4:3-4 defining God's rest as "the seventh day"
NOTE: Context in Hebrews 4:1-5 is God's Rest from the seventh day Sabbath from the foundation of the world (v4-5) and those who enter Gods rest by and believing and following Gods Word [the gospel] who enter into God's Sabbath rest as God did on the seventh day of the week. The context here defining God’s rest/My rest/His rest is to God’s seventh day Sabbath rest created at the foundation of the world that those who believe or do not believe God's WORD do or do not enter into. The new testament writer of Hebrews is warning us that if we do not believe and follow God's Word (the gospel) and continue in sin and unbelief (Hebrews 3:10-13; 18-19) we will never enter into God's rest (His Rest/My Rest) which is defined as the "seventh day" Sabbath rest in Hebrews 4:1-5. There are two rests here. One is to the rest we enter into by believing and following Gods Word which is our rest and the rest we enter into by believing and following God’s Word to God’s rest which is the seventh day Sabbath. Hebrews 4:3-5 defines God's rest by saying [3], For we which have believed do enter into rest (our rest from or the gospel rest of believing and following God's Word), as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest (God's rest): although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. [4], For he spoke in a certain place of the "seventh day" on this wise, And God did rest the "seventh day" from all his works. [5], And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest ("seventh day").

[6], Seeing therefore it remains that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
[7], Again, he limits a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if you will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
[8], For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
[9] SO THEN, IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH.
[10], For he that is entered into his rest, he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his. [11], Let us labor therefore to enter that rest, [God’s REST the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH] lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief [rejecting God’s WORD and sin; Hebrews 3].

KEY POINTS OF HEBREWS 4:9

Now notice Hebrews 4, verse 9: “SO THEN, IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH.” In verses 1, 3, 4 and 8, the Greek word for “rest” is katapausin. It means “rest.” But in verse 9, the Greek word for “rest” is sabbatismos, which is a Hebrew word—Sabbat, which means “the Sabbath”—combined with a Greek suffix—ismos, which means “a keeping of” or “a doing of.” Put together, sabbatismo means “a keeping of the Sabbath.” When correctly translated, Hebrews 4:9 should read, “There remains therefore a keeping of the Sabbath to the people of God.

According to the Greek and scripture contexts of Hebrews 3:7-19 and Hebrews 4:1-9, Hebrews 4:9 is in regards to God’s seventh day Sabbath of the 4th commandment which in the context of Hebrews 4:1-5 which defines God’s rest/My rest/His rest (Hebrews 3:11; 18-19; Hebrews 4:1; 3; 5; 10) as the “seventh day” from the foundation of the world *Hebrews 4:3-4.

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Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Hebrews 4:9 So then, it remains for the people of God to keep the Sabbath.

Lamsa Bible
Hebrews 4:9 It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath.

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For your interest, the Greek word used here for Sabbath is Sabbatismos and means a Sabbath keeping or keeping of the Sabbath or how the Sabbath is kept by resting.

GREEK INTERLINEAR
HEBREWS 4:9 άρα (Then) απολείπεται (there is left) σαββατισμός (a Sabbath keeping) τω (to the) λαώ (people) του θεού (of God)

GREEK LEXICON OF THE NEW TESTAMENT, Abbott-Smith - G4520
*† σαββατισμός, - οῦ, ὁ(< σαββατίζω, to keep the sabbath, Exod 16:30, al.),
a keeping sabbath, a sabbath rest: metaph., as in Mishna (Zorell, s.v.), Heb 4:9.†

LIDDEL/SCOTT/JONES GREEK-ENGLISH LEXICON - G4520
σαββατισμός Σαββᾰτ-ισμός, ὁ, a keeping of days of rest, Ep. Heb 4:9, cf. Plu. 2.166a (codd., βαπτισμούς Bentley).

STRONGS Greek 4520: A keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest. From a derivative of sabbaton; a 'sabbatism', i.e. the repose of Christianity. for the τῷ () Article - Dative Masculine Singular Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the. people λαῷ (laō) Noun - Dative Masculine Singular Strong's Greek 2992: Apparently a primary word; a people of God. Θεοῦ (Theou) Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular Strong's Greek 2316: A deity, especially the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very.

STRONGS CONCORDENCE
sabbatismos: a sabbath rest Definition: a sabbath rest Usage (DOING): a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.

GREEK-ENGLISH LEXICON OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. THAYER - G4520
G4520 — σαββατισμός σαββατισμου, ὁ (σαββατίζω to keep the sabbath);

W. E. VINE, GREEK DICTIONARY
Sabbath rest (4520) (sabbatismos from sabbatízo = keep the Sabbath) literally means a keeping of a sabbath or a keeping of days of rest. (Note the rest of Vines comments is not the Greek it is his opinion)

HEBREWS 4:9 [9], SO THEN IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH.

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Hebrews 3:7-19 to Hebrews 4:1-11 is warning us that if we do not believe and follow God's Word (the gospel) and we continue in sin and unbelief (Hebrews 3:10-13; 18-19) we will never enter into God's rest (His Rest/My Rest) which is defined as the "seventh day" Sabbath rest in Hebrews 4:1-5. Hebrews 4:3-5 defines God's rest by saying [3], For we which have believed do enter into rest (our rest from or the gospel rest of believing and following God's Word), as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest (God's rest): although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. [4], For he spoke in a certain place of the "seventh day" on this wise, And God did rest the "seventh day" from all his works. [5], And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest ("seventh day"). There are two rests being described. One is our rest we receive through believing and following God's Word (the gospel) *Matthew 11:28-30; Hebrews 4:2-3 and God's rest *Hebrews 3:11; 18; Hebrews 4:1; 3; 5-6; 8-9; 10-11. Hebrews 4:9 THEREFORE IT REMAINS FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO KEEP THE SABBATH. Why? Because the true seventh day Sabbath rest is a sign of God's true people who God sanctifies to keep all the commandments of God through faith in God's Word *Exodus 31:13; Exodus 31:17; Ezekiel 20:12; Ezekiel 20:20; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 22:14.

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SUMMARY: God's rest is the "seventh day Sabbath" of creation. Our rest is that of believing and following Gods' Word. No one enters into God's rest (defined in Hebrews as the "seventh day Sabbath") unless they believe and follow Gods' Word (the gospel rest). Of course God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11) are a part of God's Word (the gospel) that God's people who enter into Gods rest believe and follow in Gods' Word just like Jesus did and the Apostles and prophets in Gods' Word. Everything provided here are not my words but have been taken directly from the scriptures which are God's Words not mine (exegesis). The warnings here are very clear. Those who do not believe and follow God's Word in order to continue in a life of known unrepentant sin (breaking anyone of God's commandments - James 2:10-11) just like those in the wilderness do not enter into Gods' rest (seventh day Sabbath) and will be in danger of the judgement to come (Hebrews 10:26-31)

Hope this is helpful.
 
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This seems to be the case. The rainbow is a sign for Noah's children (i.e., all of us), circumcision is a sign for Abraham's children (and thus not everyone), and the Sabbath is a sign for the children of Israel (and thus not everyone).
Brother, there is verification in the word of God itself of having correctly understood that Gentiles "come in" to "all Israel". We "come in" to the "part" of "all Israel" that accepted Jesus!

Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the FULL NUMBER of the Gentiles has come in, and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: “The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins.” As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable. (Romans 11:25b-29 NIV)​

We who "come in" to "all Israel" are no longer Gentiles but part of "all Israel". Verified in this next passage through "citizenship" in Israel, we are no longer Gentiles, but part of "all Israel".

remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ... Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household (Ephesians 2:12,13,19 NIV)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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