Why are we vaccinating children against COVID-19?

[chad kincham]

Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) with a focus on ages 0-18 years in the United States.


10/06/2021
0-4 years
181

5-18 years
406


(from CDC)

True.

Quoting 480,000 children getting it as one person did, means nothing - it’s like quoting how many get the cold virus - as COVID does not kill, or even badly affect healthy children - nor are infected children spreaders.

It’s the overreaction of immune system in the lungs that kills, by causing a “cytokine storm” resulting in severe inflammation that keeps air from entering the alveoli, and that happens the worst in the elderly - the immune systems of healthy children don’t have that overreaction problem.

They aren’t badly affected by it, and don’t spread it, and don’t need jabbed.

 

[renniks]

But spreading a disease that kills people is completely different, right?

Now it's a disease? It's a virus. And obviously it spreads regardless.
Yes it's different. A one percent chance of dying compared to an act that kills every time is certainly different.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Yes abortion is a terrible thing.

Not always.

 

[loveofourlord]

Now it's a disease? It's a virus. And obviously it spreads regardless.
Yes it's different. A one percent chance of dying compared to an act that kills every time is certainly different.

Ummm what do you think the meaning of disease is?

 

[renniks]

Not always.

Then why would someone dying from a virus always be terrible?
Maybe the kid who died from the virus would have been a burden on his parents anyway.

That's the reasoning pro abortion people use.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Then why would someone dying from a virus always be terrible?
Maybe the kid who died from the virus would have been a burden on his parents anyway.

That's the reasoning pro abortion people use.

So then why do you say abortion is a terrible thing?

 

[renniks]

So then why do you say abortion is a terrible thing?

Because it is. Perhaps you don't catch sarcasm very well?

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Because it is.

Not always.

 

[renniks]

Not always.

Always.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Always.

Nope. My sister-in-law had 2 abortions - why is that terrible? She didn't have much of a choice.

 

[pitabread]

Now it's a disease? It's a virus.

It's a virus that causes a disease. Spreading the virus is spreading the disease.

And obviously it spreads regardless.

So, what's the logic here? People are going to catch it and die, so why bother to try to slow the spread?

Sorry Grandma, you're on your own! Good luck!

Yes it's different. A one percent chance of dying compared to an act that kills every time is certainly different.

A one percent chance of dying in a population of a few hundred million equals a few million dead.

But I guess that's "different". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[renniks]

It's a virus that causes a disease. Spreading the virus is spreading the disease.



So, what's the logic here? People are going to catch it and die, so why bother to try to slow the spread?

Sorry Grandma, you're on your own! Good luck!



A one percent chance of dying in a population of a few hundred million equals a few million dead.

But I guess that's "different". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yes it's different because it's not something we can control... you would think we would see that by now.

 

[pitabread]

Yes it's different because it's not something we can control... you would think we would see that by now.

We can take steps to control the spread though. That's what things like vaccines, masks, etc., are for.

But if a bunch of a people choose not to do those things, then I guess it doesn't matter, does it?

 

[renniks]

We can take steps to control the spread though. That's what things like vaccines, masks, etc., are for.

But if a bunch of a people choose not to do those things, then you're right, it doesn't matter, does it?

A bunch of people getting sick from the vaccine apparently doesn't matter either?

 

[pitabread]

A bunch of people getting sick from the vaccine apparently doesn't matter either?

Of course that matters. However, the effects of the virus are orders of magnitudes worse than the potential side effects of the vaccine.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

A bunch of people getting sick from the vaccine apparently doesn't matter either?

Almost nobody gets sick from the vaccine, especially compared to how many get very bad sickness or die from the coronavirus.

 

[pitabread]

Almost nobody gets sick from the vaccine, especially compared to how many get very bad sickness or die from the coronavirus.

Anti-vaxxers: The virus is 99% survivable, so why bother protecting yourself? Just get the disease, you'll probably be fine.

Also anti-vaxxers: The vaccine has a slim chance of side effects, don't get the vaccine! Are you crazy?

 

[loveofourlord]

The chance of dying from the vaccine are magnitudes less then dying from vaccine, so yeah...why should we suddenly care?

I find it funny that you guys don't care about the 2% of people that die from covid but suddenly should care about the 0.0001 or what ever % of people that die from the vaccine but are much less likely to die from the disease.

Do think we should care about those few people that seatbelts kill while ignoring all those they save?

 

[loveofourlord]

Anti-vaxxers: The virus is 99% survivable, so why bother protecting yourself? Just get the disease, you'll probably be fine.

Also anti-vaxxers: The vaccine has a slim chance of side effects, don't get the vaccine! Are you crazy?

I will defend them again in one small way. It's much easier to say, "If I catch covid and die well too bad so sad, but if I get the vaccine and die I killed myself." kinda mentality. They are wrong, but I can get where you get into that headspace.

 

[pitabread]

I will defend them again in one small way. It's much easier to say, "If I catch covid and die well too bad so sad, but if I get the vaccine and die I killed myself." kinda mentality. They are wrong, but I can get where you get into that headspace.

I suppose there is a bit of an agency thing going on. I get the feeling that anti-vaxxers are, at least in part, refusing the vaccine because it gives them something to feel in control of. Even if that's a false sense of security.