Pfizer vaccine receives FDA approval.

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I told you pages ago, that I was forced to already.....I could not buy sell, feed my children etc... without it.
Odd hindquarter discomfort isn’t a typical side effect, especially not so long after.
 
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Many do not get the flus shot and was forced to get it the covid vaccine.....so a 3rd shot would be outrageous to them. But I understand if you dont care how they feel because you dont feel the same. There is a lot of that going around here.

I don't think you do understand,actually -- the instrument has not yet been invented sensitive enough to measure how little their "outrage" means to me.
 
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I dont understand why people cant grasp this. If the choices are to feed your family, or get the injection.....It is the same as having no choice at all.

Replace "get the injection" with "wear pants in public," and maybe you'll begin to understand.
 
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Odd hindquarter discomfort isn’t a typical side effect, especially not so long after.
Even if I was for vaccinations....I would not desire for you to be forced to take it because I was ok with it.

I dont like zucchini so I would not plant zucchini seeds.

If one desires to take away the liberties of another.....his liberties will eventually be taken away.....in some aspect....in some situation down the line.
 
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Actually, it's your own assertion that's based on pure fantasy -- so much so you had to create an entire fantasy scenario in order to give it the (unconvincing) illusion of credibility.

Your analogy does not work. It would be difficult for you not to do better.
Nonsense. THIS analogy, to which I responded, does NOT work on its face for the reasons I stated (and many others). Reasserting a falsehood does not make it true. That's what is being done right now, top down.

Bad analogy to which I responded: "If you were swimming at the beach and the lifeguard blew his whistle and told everybody to get out of the water, you'd probably refuse while calling him a tyrant - just before you were eaten by a shark."
 
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Even if I was for vaccinations....I would not desire for you to be forced to take it because I was ok with it.

I dont like zucchini so I would not plant zucchini seeds.

If one desires to take away the liberties of another.....his liberties will eventually be taken away.....in some aspect....in some situation down the line.

And that, boys and girls, is how the tyrants keep us clothed against our will.
 
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Even if I was for vaccinations....I would not desire for you to be forced to take it because I was ok with it.

I dont like zucchini so I would not plant zucchini seeds.

If one desires to take away the liberties of another.....his liberties will eventually be taken away.....in some aspect....in some situation down the line.
Always with the nonsensical food metaphors in relation to public health.
 
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Reasserting a falsehood does not make it true.

Then knock it off. :)

Bad analogy to which I responded: "If you were swimming at the beach and the lifeguard blew his whistle and told everybody to get out of the water, you'd probably refuse while calling him a tyrant - just before you were eaten by a shark."

Seems a perfectly good analogy to me -- you had to invent a lot of fantasies to make it look otherwise.

(HINT: You didn't succeed)
 
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I'd be duped if I listened to amateurs instead of professionals...
My post was text from an official FDA document. Are you suggesting that the FDA are amateurs?

but who'd be that gullible?
Someone who takes the FDA press releases at face value, and neglects to look at the details of the underlying official documents. It's known as lack of due-diligence.
 
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Well, whose fault is it that they're not independently wealthy?

A lot of factors have played into this, most particularly the massive takeover by huge corporations. However, that does not address the point. Most people are not indeed at liberty to decide what is best for them and their health, together with their own physicians, because they don't have enough money to live if they are forced out of their jobs, jobs that ironically they were easily able to do for the last year and a half, especially front line responders, wearing masks. But now there is product to move and big business/political marriages to consolidate.
 
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Then knock it off. :)



Seems a perfectly good analogy to me -- you had to invent a lot of fantasies to make it look otherwise.

(HINT: You didn't succeed)
You are the one who did it. I can't "knock it off" when you are the protagonist here, having joined another, reasserting nonsensical propositions as fact. I'm merely responding to the inappropriate analogy, which should have been clear from context.
 
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I dont like zucchini so I would not plant zucchini seeds.
Replace "plant zucchini seeds" with "emit poisonous fumes" and you will have a closer analogy to the "freedom" you wish to have.

If one desires to take away the liberties of another.....his liberties will eventually be taken away...
If I ever get the desire to emit poisonous fumes, it would be totally appropriate for my freedom to do that to be taken away. I might complain about it, but I would not be justified in doing so.
 
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A lot of factors have played into this, most particularly the massive takeover by huge corporations. However, that does not address the point. Most people are not indeed at liberty to decide what is best for them and their health, together with their own physicians, because they don't have enough money to live if they are forced out of their jobs, jobs that ironically they were easily able to do for the last year and a half, especially front line responders, wearing masks. But now there is product to move and big business/political marriages to consolidate.

IOW, business as usual. What's your point?
 
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You are the one who did it. I can't "knock it off" when you are the protagonist here, having joined another, reasserting nonsensical propositions as fact. I'm merely responding to the inappropriate analogy, which should have been clear from context.

Sounds more like projecting to me. You weren't able to explain what was wrong with the analogy without inventing a boatload of fantasy...

and BTW:

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I don't know what people are like around where you live. But people in these parts are queing to get a jab. And if a business stuck a card in their window saying 'Not vaccinated now, not vaccinated ever' then pretty soon there'd be another sign stuck over the first saying 'Property for lease'.
Ah, so you live in an autocratic top down autocracy. There are several of them: California, Michigan, Oregon come to mind.

Around here, no one would put such a sign up, nor would anyone inquire, much less a landlord.
 
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