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I know it well enough that I can make mainstream academia deny it.

This stuff you guys deny on principle makes good conversations at church picnics.
No, you don't. You claim that the fact that the calendar is divided into AD and BC is evidence that God exists. That's evidence a guy in Rome believed in God. It's evidence religion exists. It's not evidence God exists.

Neither is anything else on your little list.
 
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That's evidence a guy in Rome believed in God.
Not to mention a guy on every parcel of populated ground on the earth.

Every continent, every country, every state, even people on ships on the ocean and planes in the air.
 
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It amazes me you think this is evidence that your god exists. Either you're sorely lacking in education or you didn't pay attention. This is evidence that CHRISTIANITY exists.

I suppose you think that because there are roadside shacks in Oregon that are dedicated to selling Bigfoot souvenirs that means there's a 10 foot tall ape that exists in Oregon.

You should see all the dragons in China.
 
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Not to mention a guy on every parcel of populated ground on the earth.

Every continent, every country, every state, even people on ships on the ocean and planes in the air.
Still no evidence that this being you say exists actually does.
 
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You should see all the dragons in China.
Indeed -- and some people believe the Garden of Eden was in China as well.

Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Personally, I don't subscribe to that, but I could very well be wrong.
 
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Still no evidence that this being you say exists actually does.
If the whole world can't convince you, I'd say no one can but the Holy Ghost.
 
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If the whole world can't convince you, I'd say no one can but the Holy Ghost.
Evidence. You're still missing the evidence. Now why would that be so hard to find for someone you say created the entire universe?
 
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Evidence. You're still missing the evidence. Now why would that be so hard to find for someone you say created the entire universe?
Merry Christmas.
 
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That's why it's so costly when science disproves itself.

Be it as tragic as a whole generation of Thalidomide children, or as "innocent" as Nebraska Man, science makes mistakes.
You appear to be be blaming science due to the mistakes of a few scientists. When a bridge fails and people die due to an engineering design would you claim we should eliminate engineers? There is no problem believing religion is superior to science but it would be a major problem for 8 billion people to be living in a world w/o science.
 
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You appear to be be blaming science due to the mistakes of a few scientists. When a bridge fails and people die due to an engineering design would you claim we should eliminate engineers? There is no problem believing religion is superior to science but it would be a major problem for 8 billion people to be living in a world w/o science.
I'm not for "eliminating" scientists.

I'm for getting them converted.

The science pool is a mission field unto itself.
 
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You appear to be be blaming science due to the mistakes of a few scientists. When a bridge fails and people die due to an engineering design would you claim we should eliminate engineers? There is no problem believing religion is superior to science but it would be a major problem for 8 billion people to be living in a world w/o science.

Religion is to blame for crusades, inquisition, pogroms,
Twin towers and a million other atrocities.
And they were not mistakes, they did it on purpose
with the intent to do what happened.
Religion. Belief in " god".
 
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Religion is to blame for crusades, inquisition, pogroms, Twin towers and a million other atrocities.
Yup.
Estrid said:
And they were not mistakes, they did it on purpose with the intent to do what happened.
Yup.
Estrid said:
Religion. Belief in " god".
I like to say that, just as weight occurs when gravity is resisted, religion occurs when the Bible is resisted.
 
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There are some concepts that science just cannot touch on. Purpose and meaning. Why is there something rather than nothing. Why is matter self-aware in our case, rather than us all having the sentience of a rock? Why is our sentience experienced as beauty and awe? Rather than perhaps nothing or no experience at all?

These are some of core questions that drive religion. Questions of identity and purpose.

And likewise there are questions that religion cannot answer because it doesn't implement any particular methods for investigating the natural world.

In this sense, I think that Goulds ideas make sense.
 
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Says the Baptist.
Christianity is not a religion; it is an espousal relationship with Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
 
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Christianity is not a religion; it is an espousal relationship with Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
A man getting a husband? Awesome! Welcome to the enlightened side.
 
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