World Leaders at G7 literally laughing at Biden. This is embarassing

[TLK Valentine]

Is that how it was for the previous president?

Are we suddenly allowed to talk about him here?

 

[Hammster]

Biden's detractors aren't embarrassed -- they're frightened.

If Biden is in cognitive decline, the only options are for him to resign, or for his cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment.

Either way, the end result is the same: Kamala Harris becomes the first female president of the United States...

Speaking for myself, I'd be sad to see Biden go... but I can accept President Harris. Who else on this thread can say likewise?

Really? You think that’s what the detractors fear? Lol.

 

[Hammster]

Are we suddenly allowed to talk about him here?

Feel free to actually comment on the OP. That would be refreshing.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Really? You think that’s what the detractors fear? Lol.

I'm sure of it... unless someone wants to convince me otherwise.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Feel free to actually comment on the OP. That would be refreshing.

I have been. I can't assume responsibility for other people's attention spans.

 

[Guinan]

Biden's detractors aren't embarrassed -- they're frightened.

If Biden is in cognitive decline, the only options are for him to resign, or for his cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment.

Either way, the end result is the same: Kamala Harris becomes the first female president of the United States...

Speaking for myself, I'd be sad to see Biden go... but I can accept President Harris. Who else on this thread can say likewise?

I think you've made a good point, Valentine. However, I'd also say that most of Biden's detractors are also rather disingenuous whenever they loudly complain about his behavior or his personality. Most of them passionately defended Trump whenever he was laughed at by other world leaders. Most of them passionately defended and willfully overlooked his controversial and unchristian behavior. After 5 yrs. of consistently defending this man, they can't come along now and expect other people to believe that they suddenly care about the personal behavior of the President. No one is buying what they're trying to sell. No one is taking their complaints about Biden or their public display of indignation seriously.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I think you've made a good point, Valentine. However, I'd also say that most of Biden's detractors are also rather disingenuous whenever they loudly complain about his behavior or his personality. Most of them passionately defended Trump whenever he was laughed at by other world leaders. Most of them passionately defended and willfully overlooked his controversial and unchristian behavior. After 5 yrs. of consistently defending this man, they can't come along now and expect other people to believe that they suddenly care about the personal behavior of the President. No one is buying what they're trying to sell. No one is taking their complaints about Biden or their public display of indignation seriously.

Absolutely -- I keep saying that Matthew 16:26 was supposed to be rhetorical -- not a sales pitch. Only problem is, the people who took the offer accepted a check... which bounced on January 6.

Now they truly have nothing.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Biden's detractors aren't embarrassed -- they're frightened.

If Biden is in cognitive decline, the only options are for him to resign, or for his cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment.

Either way, the end result is the same: Kamala Harris becomes the first female president of the United States...

Speaking for myself, I'd be sad to see Biden go... but I can accept President Harris. Who else on this thread can say likewise?

It is interesting that despite The Blaze's article, other articles say positive things about Biden by G7 members.

British PM hails Biden as ‘a big breath of fresh air’

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson hailed U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday as “a big breath of fresh air”, and praised his determination to work with allies on important global issues ranging from climate change and COVID-19 to security.....
But his comments made clear Biden had taken a much more multilateral approach to talks than Trump, whose vision of the world at times shocked, angered and bewildered many of Washington's European allies.
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G7 2021: Takeaways from President Biden's first summit - CNNPolitics

The differences in body language between this weekend's summit in Cornwall and the three summits attended by Trump couldn't be starker. If the 45th President was sometimes pictured looking sullen as other leaders united against him, Biden seemed to take pains to look relaxed and comfortable among the world leaders, even when differences arose......

Biden leaned into an embrace from French President Emmanuel Macron, with both men pressing into each other's sides as they walked arm-in-arm into the summit venue, forcing other leaders to walk around. As their meeting the next day started, Biden was clutching a pair of his aviator sunglasses when he passed off to Macron a question on whether America was back.
"Yes, definitely," the French President said. He added later, "It is great to have a US president who's part of the club and very willing to cooperate."....

Speaking herself to reporters following the summit, Merkel was frank that just having Biden in the US seat at the G7 wasn't an end to the problems facing the world.
But she said it did mean the group can work with new "zest" to solve them.
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[TLK Valentine]

It is interesting that despite The Blaze's article, other articles say positive things about Biden by G7 members.

British PM hails Biden as ‘a big breath of fresh air’

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson hailed U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday as “a big breath of fresh air”, and praised his determination to work with allies on important global issues ranging from climate change and COVID-19 to security.....
But his comments made clear Biden had taken a much more multilateral approach to talks than Trump, whose vision of the world at times shocked, angered and bewildered many of Washington's European allies.
​

G7 2021: Takeaways from President Biden's first summit - CNNPolitics

The differences in body language between this weekend's summit in Cornwall and the three summits attended by Trump couldn't be starker. If the 45th President was sometimes pictured looking sullen as other leaders united against him, Biden seemed to take pains to look relaxed and comfortable among the world leaders, even when differences arose......

Biden leaned into an embrace from French President Emmanuel Macron, with both men pressing into each other's sides as they walked arm-in-arm into the summit venue, forcing other leaders to walk around. As their meeting the next day started, Biden was clutching a pair of his aviator sunglasses when he passed off to Macron a question on whether America was back.
"Yes, definitely," the French President said. He added later, "It is great to have a US president who's part of the club and very willing to cooperate."....

Speaking herself to reporters following the summit, Merkel was frank that just having Biden in the US seat at the G7 wasn't an end to the problems facing the world.
But she said it did mean the group can work with new "zest" to solve them.
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It's been a while -- well, ok, 4 1/2 years, which is still a while -- since we've seen a president actually inspire that kind of confidence.

 

[hislegacy]

The more money we give them, the less demands we make, the weaker we are militarily and our approval numbers will go through the roof.


Do we want popularity to be the measuring line for our success?

 

[Hammster]

I think you've made a good point, Valentine. However, I'd also say that most of Biden's detractors are also rather disingenuous whenever they loudly complain about his behavior or his personality. Most of them passionately defended Trump whenever he was laughed at by other world leaders. Most of them passionately defended and willfully overlooked his controversial and unchristian behavior. After 5 yrs. of consistently defending this man, they can't come along now and expect other people to believe that they suddenly care about the personal behavior of the President. No one is buying what they're trying to sell. No one is taking their complaints about Biden or their public display of indignation seriously.

Did Trump bother you? If so, why doesn’t Biden?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

The more money we give them, the less demands we make, the weaker we are militarily and our approval numbers will go through the roof.


Do we want popularity to be the measuring line for our success?

I think we’ll be just fine militarily.

The Biden-Harris Administration today submitted to Congress the President’s Fiscal Year (FY) 2022 Budget request of $752.9 billion for national defense, $715 billion of which is for the Department of Defense (DOD). The FY 2022 Defense Budget submission reflects President Biden’s priorities to end the “forever wars,” invest in cutting-edge capabilities for our military and national security advantage in the future, and revitalize America’s unmatched network of alliances and partnerships.
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The Department of Defense Releases the President’s Fiscal Year 2022 Defense Budget > U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE > Release

 

[ThatRobGuy]

.......and yet:

".... a new Pew Research Center survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the U.S., with strong support for Biden and several of his major policy initiatives.

In each of the 16 publics surveyed, more than six-in-ten say they have confidence in Biden to do the right thing in world affairs. Looking at 12 nations surveyed both this year and in 2020, a median of 75% express confidence in Biden, compared with 17% for Trump last year."

America’s Image Abroad Rebounds With Transition From Trump to Biden

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I don't know if "being better than Trump" should necessarily be the bar we set for "greatness".

The political spectrum skews further to the left in all of the countries listed in the article on a number of social issues:
Canada, Belgium, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, the UK, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan.

Basically, anyone who's left of center in the US is going to be more popular in those areas than anyone who's right of center. Combined with the fact that Trump was exceptionally bad and abrasive (and the rebound effect makes even a mediocre person seem great if their predecessor was terrible), I'm not surprised that the numbers are what they are.

To use an inverse example...

If you can remember all the way back to the early-mid 90's... Boris Yeltsin was someone who many in the international community liked (or at least pretended to) He and Bill Clinton got along well. Yeltsin wasn't a great leader, in fact he had a lot of issues and some concerning policies, but he won some favor simply by not being Gorbachev, Chernenko, or Brezhnev, and being better than his predecessors. (as the 3 aforementioned Russian leaders had some seriously bad PR attached to them due the the Eastern Bloc/Cold War situation)

 

[Bradskii]

Feel free to actually comment on the OP. That would be refreshing.

Most of us (well, those who aren't retired) spend the day doing the same ol' same 'ol 9 'til 5. We're on automatic pilot most of the time. And might struggle to remember to pick up some milk on the way home from work. We sit in front of the tv, eat dinner, check social media and hit the sack. If I had to do a quarter of what Biden does, with that level of responsibility, at that intensity, with that many people, on so many subjects, 24-7, then I know I wouldn't be able to cope.

And how many of us would look good with the media attention that he gets when your whole day is edited down to a few seconds of sound bits.

You can pick a world leader, type his or her name in Goodle and add 'gaffe'. You'll get hits on ever yone (don't try this with the last president or you'll be there all day).

This is a politically motivated thread. And if this is all you got...then that says more about you than it does Biden.

 

[Hammster]

Most of us (well, those who aren't retired) spend the day doing the same ol' same 'ol 9 'til 5. We're on automatic pilot most of the time. And might struggle to remember to pick up some milk on the way home from work. We sit in front of the tv, eat dinner, check social media and hit the sack. If I had to do a quarter of what Biden does, with that level of responsibility, at that intensity, with that many people, on so many subjects, 24-7, then I know I wouldn't be able to cope.

And how many of us would look good with the media attention that he gets when your whole day is edited down to a few seconds of sound bits.

You can pick a world leader, type his or her name in Goodle and add 'gaffe'. You'll get hits on ever yone (don't try this with the last president or you'll be there all day).

This is a politically motivated thread. And if this is all you got...then that says more about you than it does Biden.

Cool. I guess that explains all of the negative Trump threads the past four years.

 

[wing2000]

I don't know if "being better than Trump" should necessarily be the bar we set for "greatness".

The political spectrum skews further to the left in all of the countries listed in the article on a number of social issues:
Canada, Belgium, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, the UK, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan.

Basically, anyone who's left of center in the US is going to be more popular in those areas than anyone who's right of center. Combined with the fact that Trump was exceptionally bad and abrasive (and the rebound effect makes even a mediocre person seem great if their predecessor was terrible), I'm not surprised that the numbers are what they are.

To use an inverse example...

If you can remember all the way back to the early-mid 90's... Boris Yeltsin was someone who many in the international community liked (or at least pretended to) He and Bill Clinton got along well. Yeltsin wasn't a great leader, in fact he had a lot of issues and some concerning policies, but he won some favor simply by not being Gorbachev, Chernenko, or Brezhnev, and being better than his predecessors. (as the 3 aforementioned Russian leaders had some seriously bad PR attached to them due the the Eastern Bloc/Cold War situation)

Agreed, although I wasn't suggesting "greatness." Our allies are most likely relieved to at least have a US leader that isn't t attacking them publicly and shares common goals with respect to fighting Covid, climate change and other issues that affect us all.

 

[d taylor]

He gets rushed away by his wife, what does she know.

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[TLK Valentine]

The more money we give them, the less demands we make, the weaker we are militarily and our approval numbers will go through the roof.


Do we want popularity to be the measuring line for our success?

For years, you let Nielsen Ratings be your yardstick of which news network is the most trustworthy....

In case you're looking for it, the moral high ground is that-a-way...

 

[hislegacy]

For years, you let Nielsen Ratings be your yardstick of which news network is the most trustworthy..

I did???? That is news to me!

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Biden's detractors aren't embarrassed -- they're frightened.

If Biden is in cognitive decline, the only options are for him to resign, or for his cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment.

Either way, the end result is the same: Kamala Harris becomes the first female president of the United States...

Speaking for myself, I'd be sad to see Biden go... but I can accept President Harris. Who else on this thread can say likewise?

I don't know that I'd "welcome" a president Harris, but I don't think it'd be the end of the world.

My main concern would be that she would appoint someone for VP (which would cruise through the congressional approval process given the current makeup) that would make a far-right ticket competitive in 2024.

(which would put us back to square 1... square 1 being ...where a right wing populist seems mildly appealing because the other side is too far in the other direction)

Biden's drawing point was that he was a moderate...it's the reason why I voted for him. Had the ticket been Kamala Harris/Kristen Gillibrand...I'd have stayed home on election day (or stuck with my usual routine of voting libertarian)

If Harris selected a far-left person to take the role of VP (in order to score woke points), that's basically just asking for another right wing populist ticket to swoop in and take the win in 2024.