Quick decision-making is not Biden’s style

[Albion]

This part? Consulting with his much younger grandchildren about popular culture and consumer technology is a problem for you? It seems like they would be a good source about the topics.

They might be. And you're entitled to your own view of the matter.

Other people with somewhat different perspectives are entitled to their preferences, too.

What I said was that I would "feel better" if his own grandchildren were not his "his lifeline to popular culture and consumer technology." And yes, I would feel better about it if he chose someone else.

 

[Tiberius Lee]

They might be. And you're entitled to your own view of the matter.

Other people with somewhat different perspectives are entitled to their preferences, too.

What I said was that I would "feel better" if his own grandchildren were not his "his lifeline to popular culture and consumer technology." And yes, I would feel better about it if he chose someone else.

I would feel better if President would appoint his daughter and son-on-law as White house advisor. Oh , sorry , that was for last administration.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Personally, I had thought that the people telling him what to do were Valery Jarrett, Susan Rice, and a few others.

But then came the Original Post here with the reprint of an article from the New York Times saying that he turned to his grandchildren for guidance on some matters of importance to public policy.

Therefore, you need to take up your concern over the "lie" with the source. I was merely reacting to the news, assuming it to be correct.

You wrote:
"I'd feel better if his preferred advisors were not his grandchildren, "

And you didn't specifiy on what, leaving the implication that it was on all.

Instead, the article says:

The president’s evenings include regular calls with his grandchildren, who serve as his lifeline to popular culture and consumer technology. If one of them does not pick up, Mr. Biden — whom they call “Pop” — leaves a voice mail message.
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Key thing - "evenings" and it is regarding pop culture and technology. Sounds like most grandparents to me, not a President asking for public policy advice of "preferred advisors".


The article also includes:

For political advice and policy direction, he turns to the group one White House aide called the “Biden historians” — Ron Klain, the chief of staff and longtime aide; Bruce Reed, a top policy adviser who sometimes ran his vice president’s office; Mike Donilon, his political counselor and alter-ego; and Steve Ricchetti, his legislative guru and longtime friend.​

This part was interestint:

One item not on the daily agenda?

Watching hours of cable news. The television that Mr. Trump installed in the dining room next to the Oval Office is still there, but aides say it is rarely on during the day.

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good!

 

[GoldenBoy89]

“Biden thinks too much” has got to be one of the stranger criticisms I’ve heard of the new administration.

 

[Guinan]

“Biden thinks too much” has got to be one of the stranger criticisms I’ve heard of the new administration.

It's grasping at straws, in my opinion.

 

[Albion]

You wrote:
"I'd feel better if his preferred advisors were not his grandchildren, "

And you didn't specifiy on what, leaving the implication that it was on all.

I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding.

Instead, the article says:

The president’s evenings include regular calls with his grandchildren, who serve as his lifeline to popular culture and consumer technology. If one of them does not pick up, Mr. Biden — whom they call “Pop” — leaves a voice mail message.​

Key thing - "evenings" and it is regarding pop culture and technology.

The key things are seeing them as his "lifeline" with regard to not only youth culture but also technology.

In any case, I see nothing wrong with having a personal opinion that it would be better for the President of the United States to turn to a range of real experts on some of this and not think of his family members as his "lifeline" to such important and complicated matters. But, again, all I said was that I would "feel better" if that were the case...and I cannot deny that I would.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

It's grasping at straws, in my opinion.

Not even very good grasping at straws. What they are seemingly knocking him for is a feature not a fault.

 

[Desk trauma]

“Biden thinks too much” has got to be one of the stranger criticisms I’ve heard of the new administration.

We are not even halfway into the first year of the administration and we are getting things this far out of left field already. Imagine how far out they will need to go after a few entire years of bland normalcy.

 

[Mayzoo]

I'd feel better if his preferred advisors were not his grandchildren, and he did spend a whole day at work. But none of this matters to those who will laud this failure of a president, no matter what he does.

Have his grandchildren applied for or been granted top-secret clearances stating they are top level advisors? Do they speak on behalf of the US at formal events?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding.

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The key things are seeing them as his "lifeline" with regard to not only youth culture but also technology.

In any case, I see nothing wrong with having a personal opinion that it would be better for the President of the United States to turn to a range of real experts on some of this and not think of his family members as his "lifeline" to such important and complicated matters. But, again, all I said was that I would "feel better" if that were the case...and I cannot deny that I would.

Hey at least he’s not leaving peace in the Middle East to one of his grandkids to figure out. We see now how well the last non-expert did with that task.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

We are not even halfway into the first year of the administration and we are getting things this far out of left field already. Imagine how far out they will need to go after a few entire years of bland normalcy.

It’s gonna be a long 4 years and even more if the GOP doesn’t get a clue at some point in the next 3.

 

[FreeinChrist]

The key things are seeing them as his "lifeline" with regard to not only youth culture but also technology.

Like new apps? new cell phones? new game apps?

In any case, I see nothing wrong with having a personal opinion that it would be better for the President of the United States to turn to a range of real experts on some of this and not think of his family members as his "lifeline" to such important and complicated matters. But, again, all I said was that I would "feel better" if that were the case...and I cannot deny that I would.

The article doesn't say it was about complicated matters. You assume that Biden doesn't rely on real experts for the technology that matters. I believe that is a willful choice.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I'd feel better if his preferred advisors were not his grandchildren, and he did spend a whole day at work. But none of this matters to those who will laud this failure of a president, no matter what he does.

Oh man, your posts really are special.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

But none of this matters to those who will laud this failure of a president, no matter what he does.

Lol.

 

[Kentonio]

But then came the Original Post here with the reprint of an article from the New York Times saying that he turned to his grandchildren for guidance on some matters of importance to public policy.

Matters of importance to public policy like who is Ariana Grande and how does TikTok work?

 

[Albion]

Matters of importance to public policy like who is Ariana Grande and how does TikTok work?

The article didn't specify.

 

[disciple Clint]

He grilled his newly appointed coronavirus task force adviser, Jeffrey D. Zients, with questions: How would Americans react to active-duty personnel being deployed onto the streets? Had anything like it been done before? How big was the scale of the effort, and how fast could it be scaled up?

Mr. Biden did not want to be spared any incremental detail. After the president took office, his defense secretary deployed 1,100 troops in five teams of nurses, vaccinators and other medical staff. He eventually deployed 4,000 more.

On Jan. 21, Mr. Biden’s first full day in office, he met with his coronavirus team again, including Dr. Anthony S. Fauci and Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, in the State Room, where the group presented him with what it called the “comprehensive plan.”

After the meeting, he pulled Mr. Zients aside and gave him a set of instructions: “Bring me the news, good, bad and ugly. It’s going to have big moments and not so good moments, and I want to know about every one of them,” the president said. “I want the details.”

Imagine that? A chief executive who demands details and then deploys resources to save American lives.

Nothing new about that, all presidents have done the same thing

 

[disciple Clint]

I prefer complex issues be dealt with after deliberation rather than impulsiveness.

excessive deliberation results in delay of or failure to act as pointed out in the article.

 

[disciple Clint]

Are these supposed to be complaints?

Looking at the border, it would seem so.

 

[disciple Clint]

What I find it funny about this thread is that, you put an article from NY Times. But an hour later in the thread White House releases Biden's and Harris' tax returns, "continuing an almost uninterrupted tradition" you write this about NY Times

The same NY Times who brought us the Russia Dossier? They lack any credibility. But then some people just assume Trump is guilty of something because that is what they want to believe.

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Regarding the article itself, I am glad a president take his time, grill his advisor for more information before making decision.

AND what I find is funny is that those same people who believed everything that the NYT wrote about Trump now find what they have written about Biden to be so untrue. Talk about inconsistencies.