Butterball1
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Thanks for the response. How does God elect a group (comprised of individuals) without electing individuals? I'm not understanding. Christians are corporately elected, but not individually elected.... So again: that doesn't sound like anyone was actually elected. If the group of individuals that called upon the Lord had to choose God individually to be elected, then it seems like God didn't elect anyone (in that line of thinking). This is why I said divine reaction. If God is reacting to our choice, corporately or individually, then it appears God is not electing, but responding to us.
God can elect a group without electing the individuals to be in the group, but let the individual decide for himself to be in the group or not. Then choosing to become part of the group makes one of the elect, very simple.
A bus driver can take a group of people to a certain destination. Yet the bus driver does not determine which individuals will or will not buy a ticket. ANYONE that chooses to buy a ticket then becomes part of the group taken to the location. Likewise anyone who makes himself part of the group by obeying God and by doing so leaves God without culpability for the loss. Having God choose for man which individuals will or will not be of the elect not only makes God culpable for the lost but also makes Him a repsecter of person when He is not (Acts of the Apostles 2:34-35).
Jonah 3 God does respond to what man does. God thru Jonah said yet 40 days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. But Nineveh repented and God reacted...."And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not." So those sinners that repent and obey the gospel in that sense "save themselves" (Acts of the APostles 2:40) for God makes those who obey Him part of the elect.
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