Is the fundamental gap between creationists and non-creationists...

[Astrid]

I guess the Bible being depicted on his monument isn't convincing???

How that makes " paths" inspirational to the study of oceanography is not explained.

 

[AV1611VET]

Have you thought this through?

I don't know what the hullabaloo about the eye is all about, but for the record, God created man fully-mature ... this includes his eyes ... in 4004 BC.

 

[Mr Laurier]

I don't think there was a lot of world trading going on 3400 years ago.

Egypt was importing tin and lapiz lazuli from Afghanistan. Amber from Sweden, And jet from Ireland. They were also exporting African elephant ivory to these places.
Chinese silk was available in markets in Ur. Alongside flint from Kent and Surrey, incense from Kenya, and paper from Egypt.
The Phoenician city states were establishing trading posts in Spain, Russia/Crimea, and deep into France.
Hattusha was guarding its overland trade routes with chariot troops.
1500 bce was a good time to be a merchant.

 

[Mr Laurier]

I don't know what the hullabaloo about the eye is all about, but for the record, God created man fully-mature ... this includes his eyes ... in 4004 BC.

About the time the Andes tribes started building brick pyramid temples. Good good

 

[AV1611VET]

About the time the Andes tribes started building brick pyramid temples. Good good

They time-stamped their work, did they?

 

[Mr Laurier]

They time-stamped their work, did they?

No. they cooked their food with fires.
Fires leave ashes.
Ashes can be dated accurately.

 

[AV1611VET]

No. they cooked their food with fires.
Fires leave ashes.
Ashes can be dated accurately.

And if I went to the Andes and cooked my food, using wood from the same forest as they did, would it date to AD 2021? or 4004 BC? or what?

 

[Speedwell]

And if I went to the Andes and cooked my food, using wood from the same forest as they did, would it date to AD 2021? or 4004 BC? or what?

It would be dated to the time that the tree died.

 

[Mr Laurier]

And if I went to the Andes and cooked my food, using wood from the same forest as they did, would it date to AD 2021? or 4004 BC? or what?

When did you cook the food?
Thats when the ash was formed.
Oh, And there were log sections in the ash deposits.
Log sections that could also be dated by dendrochronology, aka tree-ring dating.
And the hearth stones also were affected by the heat. Thermoluminescence dating.
Wow, Three dating methods that line up.
The earliest Andes Pyramids were built between 4400 bce, and 3800 bce.

 

[renniks]

No telling what a creationist might think.
Now show some class, cease the made- up personal remarks.

You first.

 

[Bradskii]

How is that kicking the can? All of evolutionary theory is
just can - kicking?

As regards evolution v creationism? Evolution is the explanation. No can needing to be kicked. Creationism (especially when it's suggested that an aspect of any given life form is 'inherited') is no explanation. Especially when it's suggested that everything is created. If that were the case then we need no explanations. Godiddit.

 

[VirOptimus]

A dismissive wave of the hand is all you have?

Its all that is needed.

 

[disciple Clint]

One discursive off-topic after another, a serial gish.

any and all posted facts are subject to being refuted, if your assertions are true it should be of no effort for you to do so. I understand that is much easier to attempt to dismiss information that challenges closely held beliefs or should I say non beliefs.

 

[VirOptimus]

any and all posted facts are subject to being refuted, if your assertions are true it should be of no effort for you to do so. I understand that is much easier to attempt to dismiss information that challenges closely held beliefs or should I say non beliefs.

If you want to challange the science then write an article for peer-review, if you cant, well then your "views" dont matter.

 

[disciple Clint]

What does the Shroud of Turin have to do with the creation/evolution debate? You are a veritable fountain of irrelevancies.

If it is impossible to refute the evidence, a weak criticism could be made that it is posted in the wrong place.

Ok.... So how does this help?
Its not as though you are presenting a new claim. And the claims you ARE presenting are both long refuted.
The second by reading the actual text of Josephus. Rather than the abridged and edited version YOU are relying upon.

And the claims you ARE presenting are both long refuted.

I am very interested to see the evidence that you have to support your assertion. Please what do you have to refute the evidence I provided.

 

[Gene2memE]

About the time the Andes tribes started building brick pyramid temples. Good good

Which is also about 1000 years after the ancient peoples of China and Iran began brewing beer.

 

[disciple Clint]

If you want to challange the science then write an article for peer-review, if you cant, well then your "views" dont matter.

My views or the views of any other person will always matter. I have provided evidence if you want to refute it be my guest, in fact I invite you to refute it.

 

[VirOptimus]

My views or the views of any other person will always matter. I have provided evidence if you want to refute it be my guest, in fact I invite you to refute it.

No your views (or any other views from other ignorant persons) wont matter, and your gish gallops are all PRATTS.

 

[AV1611VET]

Which is also about 1000 years after the ancient peoples of China and Iran began brewing beer.

Neat trick, since the Chinese come from Noah's great grandson.

Genesis 10:17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,

Noah → Ham → Canaan → Sinites

 

[VirOptimus]

Neat trick, since the Chinese come from Noah's great grandson.

Genesis 10:17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,

Noah → Ham → Canaan → Sinites

Haha, no.