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Ana the Ist

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Because when discussing the actions of someone it's typical to point to what actions they have taken if one is interested in a fact based discussion. What policy has been changed? What laws have been passed?

From what I understand, he signed executive orders reversing title 42....the pandemic order which turned any alien around and sent them back to Mexico.

Democrats shot down the Migrant Protection Protocols by challenging it's legality in court....I don't know if the decision was appealed or not but if it was, I'm sure Dems dropped the appeal.

So now thousands are literally flooding across the border.
 
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I'm going to say something unpopular.

Given US birthrates, we will need YOUNG WORKERS soon. We don't want to have the demographic problems (primarily aging) of Japan and of several European counties.

I'm going to say something less popular...

I don't see how the left could possibly deal with this problem without openly admitting they lied every time they said there was no problem for the last 4 years.

We should start with that....the left openly lied to the public for 4 years for completely political reasons.
 
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Children have been fleeing gang violence / recruitment for a number of years. If your 14 daughter was about to be kidnapped or worse into a gang, what would you do?

I wouldn't tell her to pack her bags and find new parents in another country.
 
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Children have been fleeing gang violence / recruitment for a number of years. If your 14 daughter was about to be kidnapped or worse into a gang, what would you do?

That's not an issue asylum was created to address.
 
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No, I asking you how TRUMP made them do that. What did he DO?
It's a legitimate question and maybe something that Biden should also do.
What Biden should have done and hopefully he will learn not to do in the future ...dont fix something that is not broken
 
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Here is another type
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fyi, those prototypes were never built.
 
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That's not an issue asylum was created to address.

Perhaps historically, that is true. However, *if* an asylum applicant can demonstrate her life is in danger, it seems to me a judge should grant her asylum.
 
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From what I understand, he signed executive orders reversing title 42....the pandemic order which turned any alien around and sent them back to Mexico.

Democrats shot down the Migrant Protection Protocols by challenging it's legality in court....I don't know if the decision was appealed or not but if it was, I'm sure Dems dropped the appeal.

So now thousands are literally flooding across the border.
What I don't get is why these refugees from the Triangle are considered worse or more dangerous or whatever than ordinary illegal economic migrants from Mexico.
 
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Why is it a crisis? WOW.
Children are dying, and God knows what happened to them before they did.
I have seen interviews where kids talk about children disappearing on the way. Children jumping on trains and some falling off. Bodies in the desert. Some being only four years old. Why is it a crisis? this is not a kindness this is a nightmare.

So it is a crisis because children are dying so we should close the border? You do realize they were dying in their own countries as well, yes?
 
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Biden has to have them held somewhere when they enter. He dare not use the cages his old boss had authorized to be built, only to blame Trump for using them. Will they be forced to stand out in the heat instead?

You can think of no other solution? It is either cages or left in the desert to die?
 
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From what I understand, he signed executive orders reversing title 42....the pandemic order which turned any alien around and sent them back to Mexico.

Democrats shot down the Migrant Protection Protocols by challenging it's legality in court....I don't know if the decision was appealed or not but if it was, I'm sure Dems dropped the appeal.

So now thousands are literally flooding across the border.
The news just a few minutes ago. fentanyl levels so far this year are at the level they were all last year.
 
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You can think of no other solution? It is either cages or left in the desert to die?
No, send them back to their countries of origin and apply for asylum there. There are drugs pouring into this country harming our kids.
 
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What part of Trump saying I can help them with them if they would like, is not offering help? Conversation here is worthless.

Could you define what "help" he was supposedly offering other than making offhand remarks like "...and some, I'm sure, are good people"? That's not offering help; it's adding plausible deniability so that you don't sound as racist.

Again who is judging the people? The discussion has been about illegals coming here because Biden invited them here. Which their governments corruption with drug cartels is why they come here.

I'm glad that you're not blaming the people, genuinely. That's good!

But Biden didn't "invite" them here, and if they are coming here they should be welcomed.
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No, send them back to their countries of origin and apply for asylum there. There are drugs pouring into this country harming our kids.
Second sentence has no connection to the first...
 
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I'm going to say something unpopular.

Given US birthrates, we will need YOUNG WORKERS soon. We don't want to have the demographic problems (primarily aging) of Japan and of several European counties.
Need people to pick our lettuce, clean our homes, take care of our lawns.
 
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No, send them back to their countries of origin and apply for asylum there. There are drugs pouring into this country harming our kids.
Most drugs come into the country through legal points of entry or by air.
 
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