Border Crisis

[ralliann]

Saying they have problems isn't the same thing as offering help to them.

What part of Trump saying I can help them with them if they would like, is not offering help? Conversation here is worthless.

If the government is corrupt, then we could help them with that instead of judging the people who migrate here.
Ringo

Again who is judging the people? The discussion has been about illegals coming here because Biden invited them here. Which their governments corruption with drug cartels is why they come here.

 

[Aldebaran]

Saying they have problems isn't the same thing as offering help to them. If the government is corrupt, then we could help them with that instead of judging the people who migrate here.
Ringo

Mexico should be a better neighbor by not allowing those who illegally pass through their country to also enter into ours. Just as it would be a good neighbor who saw a burglar about to break into his neighbor's house and calls the police rather than standing back and doing nothing because it's "not my problem".

 

[Hank77]

"At no point" did Border Patrol "attempt to stop or pursue either vehicle," the agency said. The opening in the fence was about 30 miles east of the crash in the heart of California’s Imperial Valley, a major farming region. The area has long been a significant route for illegal border crossings.

The point of my post was that the border fence didn't stop this vehicle from driving through it and crossing the border.

 

[ralliann]

The point of my post was that the border fence didn't stop this vehicle from driving through it and crossing the border.

What part of the old fence has to do with Trumps wall?

 

[Aldebaran]

The point of my post was that the border fence didn't stop this vehicle from driving through it and crossing the border.

That's why Trump was replacing the old fence along the border with something more solid.

 

[Hank77]

What part of the old fence has to do with Trumps wall?

The old slat fence didn't have points on the top of the slats. But that isn't here or there, how would any of Trump's slat fence have stopped them from cutting it down?

 

[Hank77]

double post again!

 

[ralliann]

double post again!

My post concerned your use of the word new, as if you were speaking of trumps fence? Beyond that, I suppose nothing would stop them if nobody stops them, given enough freedom and allowing enough time and equipment to let them do it.

 

[Hank77]

That's why Trump was replacing the old fence along the border with something more solid.

They could do the exact same thing at any part of the slatted fence no matter if it was built before Trump or by Trump. Trump's fence is a slatted, metal fence it's just taller. They do sell ladders in Mexico.
I'm not even sure that this isn't part of his replacement fence because the tops are pointed which I don't think the old ones were.

 

[ralliann]

They could do the exact same thing at any part of the slatted fence no matter if it was built before Trump or by Trump. Trump's fence is a slatted, metal fence it's just taller. They do sell ladders in Mexico.
I'm not even sure that this isn't part of his replacement fence because the tops are pointed which I don't think the old ones were.

As you can see it is much higher than the fence. It is a wall. Designed to make it much more difficult to go over, too hard to climb with narrow spacing between slats. It was intended to slow down the flow in order for the border patrol to be able to handle it well. Much better than the fence

 

[Belk]

The crisis at the border is the surge of non-citizens to entering our country. The detention centers are overwhelmed and people are released into this country without proper background checks. We don't know how many have COVID, how many are bringing drugs in, how many are part of human trafficking and how many are terrorists.

Why is this a crisis? What is the catastrophic outcome?

 

[ralliann]

Why is this a crisis? What is the catastrophic outcome?

Why is it a crisis? WOW.
Children are dying, and God knows what happened to them before they did.
I have seen interviews where kids talk about children disappearing on the way. Children jumping on trains and some falling off. Bodies in the desert. Some being only four years old. Why is it a crisis? this is not a kindness this is a nightmare.

 

[ralliann]

They could do the exact same thing at any part of the slatted fence no matter if it was built before Trump or by Trump. Trump's fence is a slatted, metal fence it's just taller. They do sell ladders in Mexico.
I'm not even sure that this isn't part of his replacement fence because the tops are pointed which I don't think the old ones were.

Here is another type

 

[ralliann]

Mexico should be a better neighbor by not allowing those who illegally pass through their country to also enter into ours. Just as it would be a good neighbor who saw a burglar about to break into his neighbor's house and calls the police rather than standing back and doing nothing because it's "not my problem".

I see it even a worse neighbor than that. It's like your neighbor opening his door to let them go through his house because it's the only way to get to yours. He knows that it's your house he wants, so it's not his problem.

 

[mark46]

Teens and children are trying to flee the gangs, crime and rapes in Central America.

I don't know what we are going to do.

The Republican answer is to get Mexico to secure their Sothern border and make sure these kids are abused isn't the answer. To make sure Mexico pays for this Central American problem is vintage Republican nonsense.

 

[Aldebaran]

Why is this a crisis? What is the catastrophic outcome?

Biden has to have them held somewhere when they enter. He dare not use the cages his old boss had authorized to be built, only to blame Trump for using them. Will they be forced to stand out in the heat instead?

 

[Pommer]

I see it even a worse neighbor than that. It's like your neighbor opening his door to let them go through his house because it's the only way to get to yours. He knows that it's your house he wants, so it's not his problem.

It’s the border, not the “USA Estates Grand Gated Community”.

 

[Aldebaran]

It’s the border, not the “USA Estates Grand Gated Community”.

Other civilized countries have borders, and they enforce them. No reason why we shouldn't do the same, and plenty of reasons we should. Especially when we have a government that wants to exploit illegals for their own political gain.

 

[Pommer]

Other civilized countries have borders, and they enforce them. No reason why we shouldn't do the same, and plenty of reasons we should. Especially when we have a government that wants to exploit illegals for their own political gain.

We don’t have control of our border but expect Mexico to be in control of theirs?

 

[Aldebaran]

We don’t have control of our border but expect Mexico to be in control of theirs?
You might wanna orbit a bit closer to Earth?

They could at least do their part.
We did have control of ours until Biden fired the people who were working on securing it, right after firing the people working to keep us energy independent.