The Gospel of Jesus

[timothyu]

the kingdom of God is within you.

We allow the governance/Kingdom/will of God to work through us.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

We allow the governance/Kingdom/will of God to work through us.

What is this strange doctrine you are pushing????? Explain it to me.

 

[timothyu]

What is this strange doctrine you are pushing????? Explain it to me.

Not sure I get your point. It's Jesus' Gospel of the Kingdom, you know, the thing He had to pass the test and die for in order to bring it about. Jesus taught that the Father would once again dwell with and govern over man. That was the good news. That of course represented a counter-culture to the world of man who preferred governing themselves and each other. Rulership dependent upon self interest and gain at the expense of others, which in effect today would give us a world of 7 billion seeking to govern each other out of self interest. No wonder Jesus said to repent of this selfish thinking and return to letting God run the show.

 

[lsume]

What is the gospel of Jesus? Is it merely the news that he was born in a manger? Is it confined to the miracles and healing Jesus did while walking the earth? Maybe it's simply the news of his death and resurrection? Well, all of these things are a part of the gospel, but the good news that Jesus preached is much more "... Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God" (Mark 1:14). This is the gospel of Jesus. Nowadays many fail to preach the gospel of God's kingdom. Why? The bible teaches that Satan has deceived the whole world (Revelation 12:9). Jesus said that many would come preaching in his name and yet deceive many (Matthews 24:5). This is why pastors everywhere claim to be fulfilling the great commission (spreading the gospel all over the world), but never mention the coming of God's kingdom. Therefore, many people are deceived and have not heard the gospel of Jesus. Instead they hear and believe another gospel, which teaches that they are going to heaven. This is not the gospel of Jesus!

All over the bible, from the promise to Abraham in Genesis to the second coming of Jesus in Revelation, the Lord reveals that his kingdom will be on earth. This message is supposed to be good news to us, especially considering the condition of the world. We should be glad to know that God is going to straighten out the trouble and confusion that's presently in the world. Jesus even told us to pray for the fulfillment of his gospel, "Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven" (Matthew 6:10). Jesus also warned us to repent (turn from our sins) and be prepared for the coming of his kingdom. If we truly believe the gospel, then we will obey God's commandments. "...The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (I Corinthians 6:9).

However, Jesus said the meek are blessed because they will inherit the earth (Matthew 5:5). Now why in the world would the meek want to inherit the earth if God is supposed to take us to heaven? Maybe the meek are not so blessed after all?! Yes, the meek are blessed because they will be on the earth, in God's kingdom. "...but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth" (Proverbs 10:30). Therefore, repent and believe the gospel (Mark 1:15). Jesus never promised to take us to heaven. As a matter of fact Jesus said that no man went up to heaven except he (speaking of himself) that came down from heaven (St. John 3:13). Jesus promised us we would dwell with him on the earth. That's right, Jesus is returning to establish the kingdom of God. If we have faith and obey him, we will rule with him on the earth, "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests; and we shall reign on the earth" (Revelation 5:10).

 

[lsume]

I feel that you have a bit of a misunderstanding as to what the Kingdom of God is about. Jesus said

Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The kingdom of God is about abiding in the Holy Spirit. The believer has the Holy Spirit in them, and He the Holy Spirit motivates our good works.

Although there will be a time when Christ will be on earth, it is not God's purpose for us to live on this earth.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

I believe the verses you quoted in Mathew have little to do with an earthly kingdom. But rather are a mirror, showing us what we become in Christ.

Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

God is not saying we are blessed when we are sad, no, rather that the sad receive comfort in Christ.

Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

And in this verse, the meek, timid, would normally not inherit anything, but God says in Christ you shall inherit the earth.

The passage is saying what we have in Christ. We were once powerless, not able to have life, but Christ grants us life.

I’ve enjoyed getting back to some of The Scriptures you quoted. The bigger question is why they don’t teach the Spiritual message that is The New Testament?

 

[d taylor]

All leads to the same overthrow of man's governance and the restoration of God's.

Jesus is leader under the Father of an entirely different system and government than anything man comes up with. He is an outside threat and His system will destroy man's system soon enough. Left and right will finally unite, but unfortunately to battle Him.

I am not disputing that, that is not going to happen.

But when Jesus was going around in Jerusalem, stating that the Kingdom is at hand. He really meant, right then and there, He was there offering the Kingdom to Israel. All was needed was for the Nation of Israel to believe, He was who He said He was "The promised Messiah from the prophecies of The Tanakh"

So move forward 2000+ years, you or any believer does not know when the kingdom will be here. It may start next week but also it may be 25, 50, 100, 200, etc.. years from now.

But what is reality is that people are dying each day without receiving Gods free gift of Eternal Life.

 

[timothyu]

The bigger question is why they don’t teach the Spiritual message that is The New Testament?

The NT is the Gospel of the Kingdom. What was built upon the NT for the most part, is not.

 

[timothyu]

But what is reality is that people are dying each day without receiving Gods free gift of Eternal Life.

What you state is true and yes the Kingdom was at hand as God walked among them and within them as originally intended. But there came a point when greedy men returned the church to the world of man. People yes are not getting the gift offered because few teach the Gospel of the Kingdom, that God's will will once again dominate the will of man removing all self destructive, self interest, self determined self indulgent, self serving ways. For a church to teach that today would result in condemnation (like we are seeing in the US today) as those who teach the Gospel of the Kingdom are cancelled and have always been cancelled for threatening the authourity of man including in the church.

 

[d taylor]

What you state is true and yes the Kingdom was at hand as God walked among them and within them as originally intended. But there came a point when greedy men returned the church to the world of man. People yes are not getting the gift offered because few teach the Gospel of the Kingdom, that God's will will once again dominate the will of man removing all self destructive, self interest, self determined self indulgent, self serving ways. For a church to teach that today would result in condemnation (like we are seeing in the US today) as those who teach the Gospel of the Kingdom are cancelled and have always been cancelled for threatening the authourity of man including in the church.

A person (unbeliever) can receive Eternal Life without having to know about the coming kingdom of God.

That is an area for a believer to learn about and look forward to.

 

[timothyu]

A person (unbeliever) can receive Eternal Life without having to know about the coming kingdom of God.

How so? They must repent of the self serving ways of man and return to letting God's will dominate. That is Kingdom. It is what it is all about.

 

[hedrick]

A person (unbeliever) can receive Eternal Life without having to know about the coming kingdom of God.

That is an area for a believer to learn about and look forward to.

But eternal life is the future existence of the Kingdom of God. If someone rejects God’s rule (kingdom) now, how will he participate in it in the future?

 

[d taylor]

How so? They must repent of the self serving ways of man and return to letting God's will dominate. That is Kingdom. It is what it is all about.

The Gospel of John states many time how to receive Gods free gift of Eternal Life. And that book of The Bible should know, since it was specifically written to tell people how to have Eternal Life.

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

 

[d taylor]

But eternal life is the future existence of the Kingdom of God. If someone rejects God’s rule (kingdom) now, how will he participate in it in the future?

The Gospel of John states many time how to receive Gods free gift of Eternal Life. And that book of The Bible should know, since it was specifically written to tell people how to have Eternal Life.

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

 

[timothyu]

If someone rejects God’s rule (kingdom) now, how will he participate in it in the future?

Agreed. But an awful lot of people in the world have already rejected the ways of man. They are just unaware of an option because it is not being taught. Theology isn't going to draw them over, but an alternative is. Look at Jesus' first followers, the oppressed. Women, slaves and servants who were oppressed and longed for an alternative. They flocked to the Gospel of the Kingdom. Later on the church had to oppress it's own just to keep the masses in line because it no longer taught that Gospel.

 

[timothyu]

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.

Yes believing in the gospel of the Kingdom which was the only Gospel Jesus taught.

 

[d taylor]

Yes believing in the gospel of the Kingdom which was the only Gospel Jesus taught.

Jesus stated many times eternal life was in him, that if a person wants eternal life, to believe in Him.
One example is here: You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.

Can you show where Jesus states eternal Life is in His Kingdom.

 

[Guojing]

What is the gospel of Jesus? Is it merely the news that he was born in a manger? Is it confined to the miracles and healing Jesus did while walking the earth? Maybe it's simply the news of his death and resurrection? Well, all of these things are a part of the gospel, but the good news that Jesus preached is much more "... Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God" (Mark 1:14). This is the gospel of Jesus. Nowadays many fail to preach the gospel of God's kingdom. Why? The bible teaches that Satan has deceived the whole world (Revelation 12:9). Jesus said that many would come preaching in his name and yet deceive many (Matthews 24:5). This is why pastors everywhere claim to be fulfilling the great commission (spreading the gospel all over the world), but never mention the coming of God's kingdom. Therefore, many people are deceived and have not heard the gospel of Jesus. Instead they hear and believe another gospel, which teaches that they are going to heaven. This is not the gospel of Jesus!

5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Matthew 10:5-7 taught us that the gospel of the Kingdom is not to be preached to the Gentiles

 

[Guojing]

Not sure how your reply in anyway corrects my post unless you think there is another or second Gospel or Kingdom of God.

The 12 did not preach the gospel of Jesus's death burial and resurrection for sins (1 Cor 15:1-4), during the 4 Gospels.

They were preaching the gospel of the kingdom instead (Matthew 10:5-7)

 

[timothyu]

Jesus stated many times eternal life was in him, that if a person wants eternal life, to believe in Him.

Yes believe in Him, what He was saying about the Kingdom to come. What did He say in the Lord's Prayer? 'Our Father which art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth as it is in Heaven'. 'For thine is the Kingdom, the power and the glory'. All about the Father and His Kingdom and governance, Jesus being a representative and King of said Kingdom for and over man. Eternal life in the Kingdom of and with God as it was in the first Garden. No Kingdom of God, no salvation. Of course had Jesus failed His mission there would be no Kingdom, so He was important too.

Absolutely believe what Jesus accomplished for our salvation is in Him and what He accomplished. Even the Adversary would not deny who He was, but it does deny the Kingdom for it has no part there to play or have any authourity in. So focusing on Jesus and not the Kingdom serves the Adversary.

 

[Guojing]

The NT is the Gospel of the Kingdom. What was built upon the NT for the most part, is not.

The NT did not start in Matthew 1:1, it only started after Christ died on the cross. (Hebrews 9:16-17)